The PVM Appreciation/Enthusiasts Thread!!

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12-13-2013, 11:19 PM
Lan Di

The PVM Appreciation/Enthusiasts Thread!!

I just acquired in a SONY PVM-20L2MD 20 inch monitor and I'll never go back to LCD TV/Regular Tube TV for classic gaming, ever! Seeing everything in RGB and even component on this thing is absolutely astonishing. I would take game play footage pictures off screen bot I have a horrible camera phone, So ll just post a picture of the PVM itself. My useless camera phone cannot do the clarity and detail justice. The picture is simply breathtaking.

If you are wondering how I got RGB without a mod, this is what I did.
1. SCART Cables-->http://stores.ebay.com/retroaccessories/

2. And the SCART to PVM BNC cables-->http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=201000357298

3. These guys are a bit more expensive--->http://www.retrogamingcables.com/ and here http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/

Here is a photo of mine.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...mester/pvm.jpg
12-14-2013, 01:23 AM
rroden12

Hell yeah man! I have a PVM-20M2U that I use for shmups, it's fantastic. And the service menu is actually decipherable, unlike my Panasonic which seems to have no documentation...... I just do SCART -> CSY-2100 to get YUV and daisy chain the two screens. Works pretty well as long as you don't have both on at the same time (PVM darkens a bit). Cost a lot in BNC to composite/component style adapters though at RadioShack.

Next up is replace my LCD TV with a "digital signage" screen to lower the lag and so that it handles the 90 degree rotation a bit better, but my 6+ year old Samsung has been handling it OK since I finally found a rotatable TV mount that wasn't ridiculously expensive.
12-14-2013, 01:31 AM
4Runner

I've heard many good things about these, but 20 inches is just too damn small of a screen for me. I don't care how clear or sharp it is, if I can barely see it, that won't matter. If I can get one in a 25 inch or larger, then I'd be in business. I'm glad that you got one and enjoy it though so keep on gaming!
12-14-2013, 02:06 AM
Lan Di

Quote:

Originally Posted by segafan1989

I've heard many good things about these, but 20 inches is just too damn small of a screen for me. I don't care how clear or sharp it is, if I can barely see it, that won't matter. If I can get one in a 25 inch or larger, then I'd be in business. I'm glad that you got one and enjoy it though so keep on gaming!

Check out these videos to get the a good idea of how to set it up and how great the video can be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPbDvqFdjG4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52BrbQlpMN0
12-14-2013, 02:26 AM
Da_Shocker

That thing is super duper expensive. I know my father had some nice ass Sylvania monitor/tv that he had got in the late 80's. I wish I knew what model number it is.
12-14-2013, 04:46 AM
Lan Di

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da_Shocker

That thing is super duper expensive. I know my father had some nice ass Sylvania monitor/tv that he had got in the late 80's. I wish I knew what model number it is.

It only cost me around $80.00 on ebay.
12-14-2013, 02:36 PM
Da_Shocker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lan Di

It only cost me around $80.00 on ebay.

I should've looked there first I did a google shopping search.
12-14-2013, 04:49 PM
Shapey Fiend

There's one of these for sale near me for €120 and I've been deliberating about whether to buy it or not for a month now. I don't really have the space and I have a perfectly decent CRT already (with RGB scart). Only thing is I can't tate it (the sides aren't flat). I'm thinking of waiting another month or two and then he might flog it to me for €50 because there seems to be no interest whatsoever. Then I can give away the TV I have already maybe.
12-14-2013, 06:20 PM
MtothaJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lan Di

I just acquired in a SONY PVM-20L2MD 20 inch monitor and I'll never go back to LCD TV/Regular Tube TV for classic gaming, ever!

A CRT TV with Scart can also provide a v. good picture and at least in Europe it is much cheaper and esier to get in good condition than a PVM / BVM which are often used and abused.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lan Di

3. These guys are a bit more expensive--->http://www.retrogamingcables.com/ and here http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/

Their Mega Drive 1 cable with stereo sound comes wired with no capacitors and with composite for sync and the AV connector plug is made of two semi cricle parts of questionable quality. The best cable is the OEM Sega scart lead for the French market Megadrive.
12-14-2013, 11:21 PM
old man

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lan Di

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPbDvqFdjG4

I gert dur big peeniss, dur hur. In the first minute of the video no less. :shame:

I want one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KV-30HS42.../dp/B0002F7I9O
12-14-2013, 11:25 PM
Lan Di

One other good use for a PVM is TATE mode (placing the PVM sideways). I just gut done paying Battle Garegga and Batsugun in TATE mode and it was simply incredible! I'm sure it can be done on regular TVs but it isn't as safe because the PVM is flat on both all sides. I regular TV is prone to fall.
12-14-2013, 11:27 PM
sheath

Another Sony Thread!
http://www.memphis-it.net/shane/bounceenissan.gif

Don't we need a Sony PSP, Sony Erickson, Sony Betamax, Sony Firewire, Sony UMD and Sony MiniDisc thread too?
12-15-2013, 12:47 AM
Lan Di

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheath

Another Sony Thread!
http://www.memphis-it.net/shane/bounceenissan.gif

Don't we need a Sony PSP, Sony Erickson, Sony Betamax, Sony Firewire, Sony UMD and Sony MiniDisc thread too?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...AYERHATERS.jpg

Haters will hate, that's for sure.
12-15-2013, 01:15 AM
sheath

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lan Di

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...AYERHATERS.jpg

Haters will hate, that's for sure.

AVS forums smile upon you. My Composite, S-Video and Component ready 27" RCA looks better than anything I had back in the day.

http://images1.americanlisted.com/nl...a_29592969.jpg

It even handles RGB to Component upscaled better than my LCD HDTV does. Why exactly would I bend over for an aging Sony TV? Oh yeah, brand.
12-15-2013, 01:43 AM
Lan Di

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheath

AVS forums smile upon you. My Composite, S-Video and Component ready 27" RCA looks better than anything I had back in the day.

http://images1.americanlisted.com/nl...a_29592969.jpg

It even handles RGB to Component upscaled better than my LCD HDTV does. Why exactly would I bend over for an aging Sony TV? Oh yeah, brand.

And that's a nice TV. If you hate the Sony brand then that's your problem. I simply do not have the space for a 30 inch plus tube TV. I've always been curious about PVMs a now that I have one, I thought that I would share my findings that's all. For some reason or another you seem to think that I'm a Sony fan. Well your assumption is misguided. I like video games period irregardless of the brand. I used to be the biggest sony hater and even a bigger Sega lover. Now I have no favorites. Just because you are butt-hurt over the way Sony smoked the Saturn and Dreamcast, (well actually it was more Sega's fault than anyone else's) you shouldn't spread so much Sony hate.

If freakin Emerson or Philco made these PVMs I would still get one because of the picture quality. Brand is irrelevant.
12-15-2013, 09:26 AM
Shapey Fiend

I was a huge Sega Mega Drive fan. Did that make me buy a Saturn? Hell naw I went for a PS1 because it had a much better software selection in Europe. Brand loyalties are silly. It's not like Sega make televisions anyway.
12-15-2013, 12:47 PM
old man

I got burned on RCA when I bought one of their TVs years ago and it only lasted about two years before it wouldn't power on. It was a larger set and cost me around $300. This actually seems to be a common complaint with RCA's. My sister's 14" truflat did the same thing. It's funny when I try to buy something good it doesn't last, but I can walk into a store and buy the cheapest piece of shit there and it will last forever. I still have my first Emerson stereo tape deck I got for Christmas when I was a kid, and it still works.
12-15-2013, 12:57 PM
4Runner

Quote:

Originally Posted by old man

It's funny when I try to buy something good it doesn't last, but I can walk into a store and buy the cheapest piece of shit there and it will last forever.

This made me laugh because it is true on so many levels :)
12-15-2013, 12:58 PM
sheath

RCA went south when Thompson bought them. Thompson is one of the worst disposable consumer item companies I have found, right next to Sony. For a while I thought Samsung and Sanyo were worse but those companies seem to have gotten their acts together product quality wise. I just hope Toshiba hasn't gone the consumer product route, I keep hearing the term "toshitba" and would not even bother to replace my LCD TV if it decided to die.
12-15-2013, 01:47 PM
retrospiel

Quote:

Originally Posted by old man

I want one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KV-30HS42.../dp/B0002F7I9O

I really can't recommend CRT based HDTVs. They suffer from the same problems than LCDs but don't offer most of the advantages. This one is widescreen too so the 4:3 image will be rather small-ish in relation to the size and bulk of the TV, probably in the 23" range.
12-15-2013, 09:31 PM
Kyle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christuserloeser

I really can't recommend CRT based HDTVs. They suffer from the same problems than LCDs but don't offer most of the advantages. This one is widescreen too so the 4:3 image will be rather small-ish in relation to the size and bulk of the TV, probably in the 23" range.

They're garbage. I got a Sony one from Goodwill and took it back the same day. Everything was stretched and blurred all to hell.
12-16-2013, 12:56 PM
xelement5x

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheath

RCA went south when Thompson bought them. Thompson is one of the worst disposable consumer item companies I have found, right next to Sony. For a while I thought Samsung and Sanyo were worse but those companies seem to have gotten their acts together product quality wise. I just hope Toshiba hasn't gone the consumer product route, I keep hearing the term "toshitba" and would not even bother to replace my LCD TV if it decided to die.

Samsung has done very well by me with their LCDs. I also have a Sammy CRT that I use for the majority of my retro gaming, but the PVM is set aside for RGB applications because it is just so purdy compared to anything else.