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Originally Posted by Dja
As soon as you say things that are not their opinion.
That is when you are a troll. Spectate the forum a bit and ull see. ;)
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Originally Posted by Dja
As soon as you say things that are not their opinion.
That is when you are a troll. Spectate the forum a bit and ull see. ;)
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Originally Posted by Semmie
Japan prefers mobile gaming now. If they do buy a console when there are more games out, it will most likely be the PS4. This is common sense and it's too soon to say otherwise.
One thing is certain. Wii U is dead.
I can still see Nintendo going into Panic mode to do something about that though. Xbox One looks to be in a really bad spot right now if you ask me. It's NPD drop from December to January was the same percentage as the Wii U last year. Considering there was no shortage like the PS4 that's not looking good. And even with a shortage the PS4 still sold more. When you consider that the Xbox division is pretty much a waste of money in the most literal sense for Microsoft I'd say if anyone drops out of consoles it's going to be them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
And that's not even touching on the fact that the entire industry is shrinking. Software sales in general are down across all platforms. Though the Wii U and 3DS did have an increase in software sales over January.
I dunno. The Xbone sales numbers were not up as much as PS4 was of course, but they were available in less regions (keeping them stocked better). That + the price point has left them trailing Sony for certain.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
But at the same time, it's not exactly selling piss poor, but we would need to see current numbers... which MS will be a bit shy about unless they actually are higher than Sony's at some point (not likely).
Both units still look to catch, then pass, the wii u's total sales within this year. Obviously Sony will do so sooner, and MS could take a huge nose dive and miss it. But that's not exactly looking likely just yet.
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Forgot to mention.
The new MS head could certainly shake things up big time either way as well. And I'm sure that uncertainty hasn't helped with pushing the system either, and depending on what happens, it could be with good reason.
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Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
Xbox One is in a bad spot, yet it's just an Azure box and the new CEO is the big shot behind that whole company shift. They can afford to keep it going. Microsoft isn't going to kill the trojan horse that get's their cloud platform in the living room. They're spending money on games again. I wouldn't buy a bone, I wouldn't count them out at all.
Nintendo won't be dead, but it won't save the Wii U. They don't have the money necessary to pay for that miracle.
Life in Japan might be something really weird these days.
They don't fuck anymore and just play games while going to work...
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@Semmie
Will you ever learn to use the multi-quote button?
Your writing is already bloody awful, double posting is an overkill.
Here's the January 2014 numbers for you:Quote:
Originally Posted by EclecticGroove
PS4: ~271k
XBone: ~141k
PS3:~54k
Wii U: ~49K
360: ~48k
Retail Software sales are also down 26% YOY in general for the entire industry. However the Wii U saw a 26% increase in software sales and the 3DS saw a 6% increase in software sales.
And that's just for the US, so other regions aren't even involved here. When we look at percentages the drop off for the Xbox One from the holidays to January was about 85%. That's the about the same as the Wii U during it's first January. The Xbox One's first January sales are lower than the first January sales for the PS4, the PS3, the Wii, the 360, and the PS2. It's only higher than the Gamecube, Xbox, and Wii U. Pretty much everything is down when we look back at historic data, but even then the Xbox One is doing really bad for a console that just launched with no supply problems. While it's still higher than the Wii U, I would not be surprised if we see it slip lower come March when February's NPD data is released.
This chart should put things into perspective:Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
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The Xbox division has only been profitable since 2009, and even then it's a pathetic drop in the bucket. And with the Xbox One it's most likely to go into losing money again. There's already investors begging Microsoft to drop it.
Yes, seen those numbers, and it's absolutely possible they could drop lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
Neither system has a real "killer app" right now, and because of that Sony is crushing MS with the price point. The slightly better PS4 specs combined with the general "PS4 is more powerful" rhetoric from the constant native resolution comparisons coming out are likely not helping either.
I'll be interested to see if Titanfall makes a major impact on sales or not.
If it doesn't, then MS is still waiting on something to really pick up interest like Halo and Gears did back for the Xbox and 360.
Sony can currently just ride the wave and keep doing what they are doing if they want, but hopefully they are keeping a keen eye.
Being lazy and letting the competition catch up is one of the reasons the PS3 caught up the 360's lead last gen after all.
I wouldn't even say it's a narrative at this point. The PS4 is more powerful. There's no getting around it. The most recent example would be Tomb Raider. Both versions run at 1080p with the same graphical effects. The PS4 version averages about 60fps, the Xbox one version averages about 30fps. Unless something dramatic happens I see the Xbox One following the same path as the Wii U, just not quite as fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by EclecticGroove
And this bickering between the two doesn't address the bigger problem here. The entire industry is down and has been shrinking for the past few years. If it continues, we're going to start seeing a lot more developers close up shop.
It's been known to be more powerful since before either was released. But the differences are not "OMG" differences. Most of them have required reviewers taking screen shots of specific sections to highlight the difference between the two... very few consumers would ever be in a position to notice it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
The only reason I put it as a "narrative" is because it's being touted as a much bigger deal than it is. Some people make it sound like the Xbone is closer to the wii-u than the PS4 when the reality is they are so close to each other as to be only marginally different.
What IS noticeable however is the price tag. And like I made note of some time ago, the Kinect is going to be something that MS is either going to need to find a way to sell people on, or they are going to likely be forced to remove it and make a "core" SKU.
Unless they want to eat that cost. But I don't see them wanting to do that any more than Nintendo wants to eat the cost of the gamepad.
If Titanfall doesn't move systems like they hope, I think MS will be re-evaluating a number of things for next Christmas, if not before.
Don't mean to crash your slobbering PC love affair Knuckle Duster, but as you know I have a PC was well as a PS4. For me its all about variety and exclusive titles/content that the PC will never see. I'll be getting Dark Souls II on PC for sure. But I cant say the same for the God Of War series, Last Of Us, Last Guardian (fingers crossed) etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
Allegations mean nothing without substance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dja
I laughed inappropriately at Bing.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
Yeah, that's just sad. If they want more success with Bing, maybe they should start by renaming it. No one's going to say "I binged it" (as in, "I googled it").Quote:
Originally Posted by Obviously
So the PS4 is bombing in Japan after being on sale for one day, huh.
yeah well first day sales mean EVERYTHINGQuote:
Originally Posted by Crystalpepsifan