I have to baised and say I preferred the feel of the snes pad but I was only 12 to 15 so my hands were smaller, but the best pad ever was the Saturn just in case you think im being a Nintendo fan boy
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I have to baised and say I preferred the feel of the snes pad but I was only 12 to 15 so my hands were smaller, but the best pad ever was the Saturn just in case you think im being a Nintendo fan boy
Xbox Duke all of the years
Edit: but to be more serious: I initially preferred the SNES pad but after using the Genesis pad a bit I think I prefer it. Better button layout and a way better d pad.
Saturn pad and official 6 button genesis pad are the best for shmups. ( Imho )
I think the standard Genesis pad just doesn't have enough buttons. The 6-button pad is not widely supported. The Saturn had good controllers, though. The "3D Controller" is my favorite controller ever.
Is the question between Genesis and Snes or Genesis and everything else created by man??
Aside from fighting games, it has enough buttons for the vast majority of games of that generation; and then there's the six-button joypad, which IMO is the best controller ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by tim333
The Snes one feels like a cheap kids toy.
the snes pad was very comfortable if you have the right size hands and the triggers were good for something like f zero but if you had bigger hands the MD was betterQuote:
Originally Posted by Bottino
The 6-Button controller is in a class of it's own. It feels amazing in your hands, tremendous d-pad and perfect button layout. Looks sexy too, I can't believe someone could actually prefer a Snes pad over it.
Snes pad is Ok , feels solid, 3 button is nice for big hands though it always feel sorta slugish to me, and the 6-button rules though I could see it being to small for lareger hands.
6 button model 3 controller.
i haven't used the 6 button pad but was comparing snes to the standard 3 button MD padQuote:
Originally Posted by cowboyscowboys
Then I will take the Snes pad. The limited number of buttons and size kill the 3-button for me. Also lots of the 3-button pad have crap d-pads, while some luckily have the same d-pad as the 6-button pad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Modelboard4
After using both types of controllers, I feel that the Genesis 6 button layout is more ergonomically sound. I like the fact that the SNES controller has shoulder buttons but the button layour is not something that works well for me. I am so used to placing my index finger, middle finger, and ring finger on the respective A, B, and C buttons (and consequently on the X, Y, and Z buttons when needed). I also feel that my reaction time is alot better with the Genesis controller.
Never liked the SNES or NES pads. Loved the feel of the 3-button Genesis pad the most from that era.
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Originally Posted by tim333
the night pad is my favorite controller and the standard one hooked up to my saturn
i always felt the 6 button megadrive controller was a bit small especially compared to the 3 button controller
Sega had the best d-pads (well, after SMS anyway), MD wins here. I cannot stand the d-pad on SNES and all other Nintendo controllers.
I didn't have large hands and the 3 button pad was comfortable enough for me, so I don't get that complaint. Then again, I had no problem with the original X-box pad either. I think people just love to bitch.
The 6 button is pretty damn perfect though.
The only thing I find wrong with the SNES pad is that some actually think it's ideal/made for 6 button fighters.
I like both and I am used to the first genesis/megadrive controller despite its quite big size, needless to say the 6 buttons controller is far better. Unofficial controllers feel cheap though.....
For games like street fighters, the 6 buttons megadrive controller is more appropriate but beside this, both are equally good in their own right. Assuming the 6 buttons controller would have been the first controller for the megadrive, maybe more games would have developped this feature. A comparaison would have been even better...not sure how Altered Beast, Sonic or Arrow Flash would have used the extra buttons!!!
^They wouldn't. I've said this once before, but without fighting, this just wasn't a 6 button generation. Even the average SNES game didn't use all 4 face buttons, let alone all 6. With fighting, it was a happy coincidence, otherwise they would have developed it with a similar scheme to the Genesis 6 button, if they ever thought the fighting game genre was going to be a thing.
I like them both for different reasons. When people have console wars arguments and resort to bashing the controllers from this generation I feel like they're grasping at straws. Both have solid controllers. I could see if one of them had genuinely bad controllers it would be an argument to make, but they're both fine.
The SNES controller layout did set the standard for most controllers to come and one that Nintendo itself ironically spent the most effort trying to stray away from with their later consoles. Whether that's a testament to good design or just because it was the most popular console of its time in Japan I don't know.
its half and half if you could have a love child of the snes and MD pad it would have been better, the snes pad was nice to hold but the buttons are close together and d pad isn't as good as the MD. you cant really say the japan thing even know I agree your right in that the snes was overly favoured, just as the nes was, but Nintendo got the pad right for people with smaller hands where as sega made my favourite pad of all time in the Saturn one (first version with the weird lookin d pad)Quote:
Originally Posted by Obviously
My thought is that pads are what they are now due to the success of the Playstation, whose pad resembles an SNES due to the deal that fell through.
SNES fanboys like to argue "even the Dreamcast used the SNES design," but realistically, that would most likely not have happened if the PS1 wasn't as successful as it was.
Nothing to add :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cowboyscowboys
I really like the 3DO FZ-1 pad. It's a similar shape to the SNES but bigger, has trigger buttons, and has the MD 3 button layout which is very comfortable. I have no problems with the Dpad, I don't get peoples' complaints about it. Best of both worlds.
The version with the headphone jack has a stiff D-pad IMHO, but the revised controller with no headphone jack feels pretty good. That is: the ergonomics of both versions are quite good, but the earlier revision had that "grainy" quality to the D-pad that I've seen on the MK-1470, i.e. the turbo version of the Genesis 6-button controller.Quote:
Originally Posted by zetastrike
Anyway, I'd say Genesis 6-button MK-1653 > SNES > Genesis 3-button > Genesis 6-button MK-1470. The MK-1653 is certainly the best D-pad I've ever used.
Super NES controller has the perfect d-pad, face button configuration, and shoulder buttons, it's the best controller ever made.
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Originally Posted by Gentlegamer
http://i.imgur.com/50NjQpz.jpg
I can see why people complain that threads like this are pointless. It really is personal preference but the Genesis' 3-button and 6-button are so much more ergonomic & comfortable IMO. The wireless 6-button is amazing.
Re: any complaints that the 3-button doesn't have enough buttons: Yes it does lol. At the time, 3 buttons was more than the competitors with 2 buttons (NES, Master System, etc.). Then SFII blew up so they released the 6-button perfect for fighters.
SNES pad is less ergonomic & comfortable. It's "d-pad" has no diagonals for all those fireball moves, and so the edges are more abrasive on your thumb when trying to do fireballs etc.
Not to mention the ugly pale purple color scheme lol.
If you want blistersQuote:
Originally Posted by Gentlegamer
Why is that even a question? I'll get a good ol' six button controller for MD over SNES pad any day of the week.
Well, the NES had the exact same number of face inputs, and though it wasn't optimal a few games like Punch-Out used the Select or Start button for gameplay actions. The Genesis controller could, and probably should, have had a "Select" button of some kind right from the start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecco
I agree that the SNES's D-pad is inferior to some Genesis 3-button controllers (I say "some" because many have stiff D-pads), but I personally prefer the SNES's button layout and button build quality over the 3-button, which I find can get clunky and sometimes tends to stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecco
Either way, the MK-1653 6-button is the best of the 16-bit bunch, with the best D-pad by far and face buttons that are roughly as good as the SNES (the ABC buttons are slightly better than the SNES, the convex XYZ are slightly worse). That said, there are still some games where I miss having the option of shoulder buttons, e.g. Mortal Kombat II where I'd far rather assign Block to a shoulder button than a face button.
Funny, I feel like Sega has proven the uselessness of a Select button since the Master System. Instead of pressing the Select button 3+ times to reach the bottom option, just press Up. Thus the 3rd button actually being an action button, as you pointed out.Quote:
Originally Posted by goldenband
Both are pretty good. I like the slightly chunkier feel of the Genesis controller a little overall (and the 6 button version is brilliant for arcade ports)
Nintendo style d-pad was always better for me because it was more precise. You never accidentally pressed a diagonal when you were pressing up, for example. Or when you wanted a diagonal, you didn't accidentally get a cardinal direction. The Sega round style mechanism could result in imprecision if you pressed a cardinal direction but put slightly more pressure to one side or the other, and vice versa.
"Nintendo thumb" is a reasonable price to pay for precision. :cool:
I've never experienced that with a Genesis pad. If that was an issue with some 3 buttons, it certainly hasn't been with the MK-1653.
I can play Mario Kart 64 and Mario 64 with a Saturn 6 button pad, which means I can play them with a Genesis 6-button pad as well. What is it with newcommers and creating poll threads without a poll, or punctuation anyway?
For the umpteenth time on this topic I will just say this, I only ever got blisters from a SNES D-Pad, and once the Genesis 6-button came out I found Street Fighter and Fighters in general far more easy to pull off special moves. Before that I used the Arcade stick on the Genesis, and obviously the SNES did not exist for the first two years of the Genesis' life, not to mention home ports of Street Fighter II. My only gripe with the Arcade stick is I could wear out the buttons relatively quickly and had to learn how to open it up and clean everything after about a month. I also wore out all of my original 3-button Genesis gamepads.
The 6-button d-pad is definitely better, but still susceptible to diagonal imprecision, in my experience. I don't like the small convex xyz buttons, and I prefer the original 3 button's in-hand ergonomics (the best of the era).Quote:
Originally Posted by midnightrider
I've never tried the Majesco Genny 3 six-button controller, how is it?
Mediocre, alas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gentlegamer
That's too bad, it looks like the xyz buttons would be better.Quote:
Originally Posted by goldenband
sorry I should have stated that in the opening post that I was comparing the snes pad to the 3 button megadrive pad, as we can look at which was better, did Nintendo get ahead but having 6 buttons as standard? but then again was the snes pad a little too small for adult hands?Quote:
Originally Posted by -RT
[QUOTE=Ecco;674313]I can see why people complain that threads like this are pointless. It really is personal preference but the Genesis' 3-button and 6-button are so much more ergonomic & comfortable IMO. The wireless 6-button is amazing.
I probably am stirring a little close but I'm someone who had both a MD/SNES and so can discuss it reasonably, I think the snes pad is the second best after the Saturn one, but the MD pad 3 button was very good