https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...mponent-cables
Sorry if this has been posted already. I'm kind of interested to see if these would actually work? It looks like your Genesis can remain stock.
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...mponent-cables
Sorry if this has been posted already. I'm kind of interested to see if these would actually work? It looks like your Genesis can remain stock.
All the cable does is convert RGB to component, just without a huge box to fit the wiring in. I suppose $35 is decent for a discrete cable like that, might last a long time too.
http://www.hdretrovision.com/blog/20...-quick-commentQuote:
So we want to be perfectly clear: Our cables provide no High-Definition output or upscaling of any kind.
What we do provide is a clear, high quality picture from a simple plug-and-play cable that works with most HDTV sets. The quality you will see from them is a vast improvement over composite, and they provide a connectivity to modern TVs that S-Video does not.
Oh wow these guys get an A+ on their infomercial video. Adding medal clashing sound effects when the guy crashes into only plastic type garbage cans. And making fun of how TV presenters wear suits and shorts, yet the shorts usually get cropped out to save some embarrassment.
I can't back this but I could definitely buy the finished product. These things will be in insane demand, so I don't think they'll have a little baby production run.
I also hope with the experience they gained from this, they could also create some Dreamcast Component cables. Using transcoders is lame.
they want $25000 to manufacture some component cables?? pure greed
Agreed. I never trust kickstarters. Wasn't there a Monopoly parody board game not too long ago that ran away with everyone's money?Quote:
Originally Posted by Murphy245
Maybe/hopefully its too cover some patents/licensing fees?Quote:
Originally Posted by Murphy245
It costs a lot to manufacture things. You have to do it in bulk to keep the prices down. This is probably to manufacture enough of them so that they won't run out too quickly. If they do, then they'd have to pay more thousands to manufacture another batch.
If that Keychain is an actual image of the PCB to be used, then it means THERE IS a chip that can do this conversion easily and runs at 5V. Might as well reverse engineer the thing.
Theres no way it costs that much,and how many cables are they going to make?? the demand isnt going to be high enough for a big order.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
It seems to me the little pcb is the only thing that needs manufacturing,they could have quite easily paid for that themselves and then made the cables by hand ,rather than asking for 25k.
Look at krikkz who designed the everdrives ,all of his pcbs are manufactured and he never made a kickstarter for any of his projects,he just made it and sold it.
And I guess an analog-to-analog converter doesn't require enough watts to need a separate power supply?
Seeing as how I don't remove my 32x I would not benefit from one of these cables. Unless they make one for a model 2 and if the 32x will work with component, then I would bite.
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Originally Posted by madmax2069
http://www.hdretrovision.com/genesis/Quote:
Keep in mind we will be offering two versions of the Sega Genesis Component Cable:
Sega Genesis 1 with mono audio output - Also compatible with the original Sega Master System (Power Base Model No. 3010-X)
Sega Genesis 2 with stereo audio output - Also compatible with the Sega Nomad, 32X, Genesis 3 (mono only), CDX, and JVC X'Eye
Care to explain your reasoning?Quote:
Originally Posted by azonicrider
I backed this for two cables. At $35 per cable, that's pretty damn good to not have to deal with the hassle of SCART with a component converter that isn't always plug and play and costs more money. If it get's funded I'll have to buy one for the model 2 as well since that's how I play my 32X games. And if it get's funded they're planning on moving on to make other cables. Who know, perhaps they'll reverse engine the damn chip in the GameCube component cables and make an affordable option.
I suppose you work manufacturing things?Quote:
Originally Posted by Murphy245
First off, krikkz doesn't have a ton of those Everdrives sitting around to order. I'm sure he's having them made in small batches. Which is reflected in how bloody expensive they are. Next, I'm sure these guys are patenting their design. That costs money. The chip cost money to manufacture, but so does the cable itself. They're trying to create a professional retail level item here. Also, do you think that they're giving away the cable you buy in the Kickstarter for free? Those cost money to make. Sure, they're making money and I don't have a problem with that. That's the reason people are in business. I don't think they're being greedy at all. They want to get these started and be able to sell them on their site and move on to designing new cables for other systems. I wouldn't be surprised if the money is also used for R&D for that.
https://github.com/ikorb/gcvideo This looks pretty good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polygon
Yeah, it does! I also just looked on HD Retrovisions site and the GameCube cables are something they're looking into. Not sure they'd be able to use this though if they wanted to sell cables.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xalphenos
I have a feeling even if they don't pass the Kickstarter goal they are still going to be making these things. It sounds like they have invested a lot into them already. They went the Kickstarter route first because donations are obviously better than taking out loans or investing personal funds for production costs. I'm surprised they put the goal so high, though. I'll be interested to see if it passes. They're already 1/3 of the way there after 2 days.
Cool! Might be in for the two different Genesis cables. They would be nice to have in case I'm not around the Sony PVM.
I'm sure Gamecube component cables are far more needed for a KickStarter than this, at least that would probably be get funded almost overnight.
... And this is just one of the reasons why I never consider modding any of my consoles! Even though it's yet to be released, this info makes me happy! *Hurray!* :p
I guess nobody has figured out how to copy the chip in GC component cables, I imagine...Quote:
Originally Posted by FamiDriveDuo
Sure, perhaps you're right, but if they did make them after a failed kickstarter the price could well be higher... the larger the order, the lower the price, generally.Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpingRyle
An unnecessary power supply to add to the home theater setupQuote:
Originally Posted by MaxWar
Theres no need for a KickStarter. Why don't we go to Nintendo's headquarter with pitchforks, as they are solely responsible for this catastrophe? (Please take with a grain of salt)Quote:
Originally Posted by FamiDriveDuo
I can't believe they went as far as putting the DAC in the cables, to save manufacturing costs. Its just outrageous.
Cool concept, I don't think I'd buy component cables like this though. If they get scale pricing down to about $20 though I'd probably be down, just to save myself time.
Looks like I better clear out my backlog of mods, then... It was fun while it lasted.
Why, Nintendo didn't sell enough gamecubes for there to be that much residual interest and many of themQuote:
Originally Posted by FamiDriveDuo
have had the component video functionality removed anyway.
Additionally, the vast majority of Wii's have perfect backwards compatibility and no one has to look
for long without tripping over two or three of them.
No Gameboy Player though!Quote:
Originally Posted by war2thegrave
I don't think that's really true, the Gamecube sold a lot more than people give it credit for in the US, and it's pretty hard to come across one of the later ones without the Digital A/V port. Having worked at a retro games shop we had hundreds of Gamecubes, but I had a really hard time finding one without the Digital A/V port. Plus, the Wii's component is a lot blurrier than the Gamecube's.Quote:
Originally Posted by war2thegrave
As for this kickstarter, I've backed it because I want this to be a cable I can just recommend a friend to go buy without thinking about it. I'll never tell someone to go buy some ridiculous specially made RGB cable and RGB to YPbPr encoder setup just to play some Mario Kart, but if it's a cable with straightforward hookups then there's no reason not to. It would be great if it could be sold in retro game shops as an option to pack with a console. The video is embarrassing, though - I'd like for just about anyone else to make them one or for them to re-do it.
I concur.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qjimbo
No thats not the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qjimbo
You need to use the Wii remote, every time you wanna play a GameCube game. Its a major inconvenience how the god damn GameCube controller wont work on the Wii menu. That could be fixed in a single firmware update, which Nintendo hasn't done even though the problem has been known for years.
Good idea, shame about the "no upscaling". What about modern lcd tvs that don't like 240p over component (attempts 480i)?
No dice. Least of all, **** TVs that "signal not found" at 240p component.
You guys know that late-era CRTs exist with Component inputs? get one of those.
I don't get the craze of playing 240p stuff on HDTVs(since HDTVs are usually 30" or bigger). Resolutions like 512x256, 640x480, are lowest resolutions I'd play on a HDTV. And those resolutions only started becoming common with the PS1, Saturn and that other console thats commonly associated with the previous consoles I mentioned.
Sounds awesome. I'd buy these if they were in stores. Been gaming on composite for a while now, which i still think looks nice on HD-TVs. But it would be nice to have better quality. They should use HDMI though.
Also i've been eyeing one of these:
Takes composite signal and upconverts it in the best quality for HDMI:
http://www.amazon.com/Etekcity%C2%AE.../dp/B00D68UXQE
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1500_.jpg
Those are shit. Go XRGB Mini or buy a cheap SD set.
Also, on the subject of Gamecube component cables, the engineering has been figured out, and you can even buy a PCB where you can mount the components, but the issue is the proprietary digital video port, they aren't easy to come by.
I'd love a SNES Component Cable for sure.
I've seen gcvideo, are there any places where people have fabbed PCBs for sale? I don't mind populating the board, but I didn't see anywhere to get the PCB even. I'd probably just install this inside the Gamecube itself with component ports on the back, so the port is not an issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanX
Someone showed me a link the other day of the PCB, but for the life of me Google is failing me. Maybe it was just a prototype based on Unseen's designs?
The developer put up a link to the pcb on oshpark. I think that he posted it in the shmups forums. He said something about not designing the board with long enough solder pads for one of the qfp chips so it made it hard to solder.
Sony FW900 is one i'm looking at. If you have big money to spend. You don't want to know how much a top tier used unit costs.Quote:
Originally Posted by azonicrider
Another thing is they may have made a high KS goal due to unexpected costs that could arise. Looks like these cables are the real deal, if cheap enough i may grab a few of them when they come out.