^ Ok, the only real difference between the US/EU and JP version seems to be that the introduction was moved from the attract mode to before the game starts.
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^ Ok, the only real difference between the US/EU and JP version seems to be that the introduction was moved from the attract mode to before the game starts.
Since you're able to understand Japanese, might I ask what translation project you are involved with?Quote:
Originally Posted by SegaSonic91
Exactly. Something like Chrono Trigger or Super Mario RPG comes along, and you think the genre's going to start heading in a good direction, and it goes right back to Dragon Quest/Final Fantasy clones, which were 95% of JRPG's already... If it weren't for those 2 and the Shining Force's I'd have given up all hope for this genre(or at least the turn based side of it). The most generic are the ones based on anime, that would probably just be boring as all hell if it weren't for the fact that a familiar license was attached to it...Quote:
Originally Posted by negative chill
After a while you'd think someone would realize, there's no such thing as good genres, just good games(books, comics, songs, TV shows, movies, etc.) within a genre.
MEGA-CD 3X3 EYES is one of the best RPGs of the 16-BIT era, and that is a manga license. Much like SEGA's Magic Knight Rayearth was one of the first REALLY good Saturn games. Not all licenses=crap. As for the DQ/FF clones, the main thing that makes an RPG is not graphucs or style, it's the story and characters/character interaction. An enjoyable battle system helps, too. Grandia on the Saturn already had everything else in spades but the battles were just so damn fun, it made the game even better. Can't say I am a fan of SMRPG, possibly because I frankly hate mario games and their worlds/characters.
The problem is I've started a lot of RPGs but never finish them. Eventually I just get bored. The only time that didn't happen was PSIV and Shining Wisdom. I have to be in the perfect mindset to resume one, like it's night time, friends are busy, nothing on TV, no work I should be doing, etc.
But the other reason games get re-translated and re-re-translated is that the labor of figuring out how these games work -- script location, compression, anti-piracy bombs, whatever -- has already been done, and there are tools to make it much easier for any random people to do whatever they want to the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by SegaSonic91
It's not as if the people who are retranslating these games are always taking their expertise away from more deserving candidates. Sometimes they're picking these games specifically because it's already known territory, with very little actual hacking that needs to be done. In other words, they're not competent to translate a game that hasn't been done already.
CD/DVD games are always going to be less popular targets. The patch formats aren't standardized and the different rip formats are a mess, the consoles need mod chips, the emulation is often subpar, etc. Even if you get through all that, you have the logistical nightmare of figuring out what to do with the FMV and/or Japanese-language audio tracks -- and people want to complete projects, not leave a huge chunk untranslated.
There's a 3DO game (Doctor Hauzer) with its script sitting in freakin' plaintext on the CD, it's widely regarded as one of the best games on the system (or at least the most interesting), and yet it hasn't been translated. That irritates me, but the 3DO system is a hassle to deal with, and discs couldn't be signed (encrypted) until recently.
Doctor Hauzer, that was one of my first 3DO games ^^
I am aware of the CD game problems such as text compression etc, I am still amazed that there are not more PCE games translated, though. PCE fanboys can be even worse than the nintendorks when it comes to blind tunnel vision. There are so many amazing RPGs on the system that it's amazing PCE translating groups have never formed. At least with the MEGA-CD and PCE, there is no problem with protection or need for a modded system. Nightwolve did amazing things PCE translation but I am unaware of anything other than XAK III and Ys IV being translated, many years ago.
If I had the skill to do a LUNAR: TSS translation, at least nothing would be left untranslated. The Japanese version has text in cutscenes, Working Hackjob Designs removed that from the English version.
I finally started playing Daihoushinden tonight. It was a game I have been meaning to play for years. I got the game from good old "videogameimports UK" back in 2001 and never past the opening village as I had no clue what to do. I always wanted to try again after studying Japanese. I am enjoying it so far, it's a shame more SEGA RPG fans cannot experience that game. The one oddity with the game is that it does not work with the RAM cart and it takes up all 120 blocks of the internal RAM. Grrr, very annoying! The graphics are very nice though. Closer to late PCE games like Xanadu II and Seiya Monogatari than rubbish like Loddoss, Arslan Senki, Burai etc. Music is pretty nice and is all PCM music. I am currently playing with out any FM sound at the moment so I not 100% sure it is PCM only. The FMV animation looks exactly like Keio Yugekitai which made me wonder if "Flashback" we're the team that made Keio as well. A Saturn sequel/remake would have been wonderful :(
Yes, there was. There was Fire Emblem. I've even heard of Shining Force referred to as an attempt to imitate Fire Emblem.Quote:
Originally Posted by tryphon
Shining Force was definitely inspired by Fire Emblem. Kan Naito of Climax said everybody in the office was playing Fire Emblem when they came up with the idea for SF.
You're right.
But FE didn't leave Japan before 2003, so there was no real equivalent in the West :)
Speaking of, I'm kinda surprised no one pulled the script out of the first book of Shining Force CD and applied to it Gaiden on the Game Gear.
Oh, and if it counts, the SNES had Ogre Battle. Which was some of the slowest gameplay you'd ever see back then(I even tried it pre-emulation)...
Ogre Battle came out a year or so after Shining Force, IIRC.
The SFC also had FEDA, which was a Shining Force clone made by most of the Climax team after they finished Landstalker.
Makes sense, a good first attempt at cloning what Camelot did too. Strange that it released about a year after the Japanese release of Shining Force II, because you can feel how it was inspired by the original Shining Force, without the improvements made by II.
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Originally Posted by arromdee2
I'll bet the idea was "How do we make this fun?" :pQuote:
Originally Posted by JumpingRyle
Wow, you are so out of touch that I'm surprised you even know what a PC Engine is. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by SegaSonic91
Devs and fans both want the same thing: to see those amazing PCE RPGs translated. That's why so many people are working on so many projects. The text compression bottleneck is the main roadblock for several projects to be completed and keeping many high profile ones from being started. PC Engine translation teams are so determined to get these games translated, that a new custom system card has been developed just to make them possible.
I'm guessing that you haven't heard that fans went and added a voice dub for Nightwolve's Ys IV text translation? Since then, several people worked together to narrow down the debug mode, which allowed Nightwolve to translate the remaining text in the game. He's also looking into doing a better translation of Xak III's script, adding voice acting and new fonts.
Startling Odyssey 2 also has the text fully translated, using a software translation which was then polished up. SO2 and XakIII even have pressed bootlegs of the translated versions now (against the translation teams' wishes).
Some other games currently being translated:
Anearth Fantasy Stories
Legend of Xanadu II
Cosmic Fantasy
Tengai Makyou Ziria
Emerald Dragon
Dead of the Brain 1 & 2
Makai Henden Shada
Spriggan Mk2
And Dracula X has now been fully translated, using the cut scene voice work from the PSP version, with a mix of in-game voice samples which make it better than Konami's own localization.
While waiting for some current projects to be completed on the programming side, SamIAm has begun translating the dialogue of various games which only have Japanese voice acting, so that dub teams can easily finish them off.
An indie PC RPG was rebuilt from the ground up and physically published for PC Engine:
http://superpcenginegrafx.net/myster...ong/about.html
From the research I've done, there just aren't that many RPGs on the Japanese Mega Drive, and I'm specifying RPGs because they're primarily what need and get translations. Someone earlier in this thread listed what? Like 20 games untranslated? The SNES had a couple hundred unreleased in the US. Really. There's tons, and yes a lot have been released so really that's where the expertise lies for the few teams who have been churning this stuff out over the years. Course the interesting flip side to this is the Genesis is where we're really seeing commerical hacks and homebrews being developed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ga_Drive_gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by Daria
1989 3月21日 ファンタシースターII 還らざる時の終わりに Phantasy Star II - Kaerazaru Toki no Owari Ni SEGA ＲＰＧ 8,000円 G-5501 6M [Battery]
1989 12月16日 ヴァーミリオン Vermilion SEGA ＲＰＧ 8,500円 G-5502 5M Released as Sword of Vermilion outside Japan
1990 2月24日 ソーサリアン Sorcerian SEGA ＲＰＧ 7,000円 G-4504 4M [Battery]
1990 4月21日 時の継承者 ファンタシースターIII Toki no Keishōsha: Phantasy Star III SEGA ＲＰＧ 8,700円 G-5503 6M [Battery]
1991 3月29日 シャイニング＆ザ・ダクネス Shining In The Darkness SEGA ＲＰＧ 8,700円 G-5506 8M [Battery]
1991 9月20日 レンタヒーロー Rent-A-Hero SEGA ＲＰＧ 8,700円 G-5508 8M [Battery]
1992 6月26日 闘技王キングコロッサス King Colossus SEGA ＲＰＧ 5,800円 G-5513 8M [Battery]
1992 10月30日 ランドストーカー 皇帝の財宝 Landstalker SEGA ＲＰＧ 8,700円 G-5517 16M [Battery]
1993 12月17日 ファンタシースター 千年紀の終りに Phantasy Star IV – The End of the Millenium SEGA ＲＰＧ 8,800円 G-5524 24M [Battery]
1994 4月 2日 ファンタシースター 復刻版 Phantasy Star MD SEGA ＲＰＧ 4,800円 G-4534 6M [Battery]
1994 6月17日 新創世紀ラグナセンティ Ragnacenty / Soleil / Crusader of Centy SEGA ＲＰＧ 8,000円 G-5536 16M [Battery]
1994 9月16日 ドラゴンスレイヤー英雄伝説 Legend of Heroes: Dragon Slayer SEGA ＲＰＧ 8,800円 G-5542 16M [Battery]
1994 12月 9日 ストーリー・オブ・トア 光を継ぐ者 Story of Thor / Beyond Oasis SEGA ＲＰＧ 8,800円 G-5543 24M [Battery][6]
1995 1月20日 ドラゴンスレイヤー英雄伝説II Legend of Heroes: Dragon Slayer II SEGA ＲＰＧ 8,800円 G-5544 16M [Battery]
1995 3月17日 サージングオーラ Surging Aura SEGA ＲＰＧ 8,800円 G-5522 16M [Battery]
1989 4月29日 スーパー大戦略 Super Daisenryaku SEGA ＳＬＧ 6,800円 G-4501 4M [Battery]
1991 3月 8日 バハムート戦記 Bahamut Senki SEGA ＳＬＧ 6,800円 G-4520 4M [Battery]
1991 4月29日 三国志列伝 乱世の英雄たち Sangokushi Retsuden SEGA ＳＬＧ 8,700円 G-5504 8M [Battery]
1991 6月17日 アドバンスド大戦略 ドイツ電撃作戦 Advanced Daisenryaku SEGA ＳＬＧ 8,700円 G-5505 8M [Battery][Modem]
1991 8月 9日 ポピュラス Populous SEGA ＳＬＧ 6,000円 G-4057 4M
1991 12月 5日 忍者武雷伝説 Ninja Burai Densetsu SEGA ＳＬＧ 8,700円 G-4524 8M [Battery]
1991 12月13日 太平記 Taiga Drama Taihiki SEGA ＳＬＧ 8,700円 G-5511 8M [Battery]
1992 3月20日 シャイニング・フォース 神々の遺産 Shining Force SEGA ＳＬＧ 8,700円 G-5512 12M [Battery]
1992 4月10日 Ａ列車で行こうＭＤ Take the 'A'-Train SEGA ＳＬＧ 6,800円 G-4532 4M [Battery]
1992 8月 7日 修羅の門 Shura no Mon SEGA ＳＬＧ 6,000円 G-4073 8M
1993 10月 1日 シャイニング・フォースII 古えの封印 Shining Force II SEGA ＳＬＧ 8,800円 G-5521 16M [Battery]
1994 6月24日 ロードモナーク・とことん戦闘伝説 Lord Monarch SEGA ＳＬＧ 8,800円 G-5534 16M [Battery][Mouse]
1994 7月22日 ハイブリッド・フロント Hybrid Front SEGA ＳＬＧ 8,800円 G-5541 16M [Battery]
1989 10月 6日 スーパーハイドライド Super Hydlide アスミック Asmik ＲＰＧ 7,900円 T-20013 4M [Battery]
1991 6月22日 ブルーアルマナック Blue Almanac / Star Odyssey 講談社総研 Hot-B / Kodansha ＲＰＧ 8,700円 T-46013 8M [Battery]
1991 11月 1日 ワンダラーズ フロム イース Wanderers From Ys テレネット Telenet ＲＰＧ 8,700円 T-49063 8M [Battery]
1991 12月 6日 エグザイル 時の狭間へ Exile テレネット Telenet ＲＰＧ 8,900円 T-49093 8M [Battery]
1992 2月 7日 ソーサルキングダム Sorcer Kingdom メサイヤ NCS/Masaya ＲＰＧ 8,800円 T-25113 8M [Battery]
1992 2月14日 港のトレイジア Minato no Traysia テレネット Telenet ＲＰＧ 8,900円 T-49073 8M [Battery]
1993 12月29日 魔天の創滅 Maten Densetsu 講談社総研 Hot-B / Kodansha ＲＰＧ 8,900円 T-46023 8M [Battery]
1996 3月22日 魔導物語 I Madou Monogatari I コンパイル Compile ＲＰＧ 7,800円 T-66023 16M [Battery]
1989 12月15日 ヘルツォーク・ツヴァイ Herzog Zwei テクノソフト Techno Soft ＳＬＧ 6,800円 T-18023 4M
1991 2月24日 シーザーの野望 Ambition of Caesar マイクロネット Micronet ＳＬＧ 8,800円 T-22033 8M
1991 3月29日 斬 夜叉円 舞曲 Zan: Yasha's Waltz ウルフチーム Wolf Team ＳＬＧ 8,500円 T-32033 4M [Battery]
1991 4月26日 ラングリッサー Langrisser / Warsong メサイヤ NCS/Masaya ＳＬＧ 7,300円 T-25103 4M [Battery]
1991 7月26日 マスター・オブ・モンスターズ Master of Monsters 東芝 EMI / Toshiba ＳＬＧ 7,800円 T-63013 4M [Battery]
1991 11月29日 乱世の覇者 Ransei no Hasha アスミック Asmik ＳＬＧ 9,800円 T-20053 8M [Battery]
1991 12月20日 信長の野望 武将風雲録 Nobunaga's Ambition 光栄 KOEI ＳＬＧ 11,800円 T-76013 8M [Battery]
1991 12月26日 三國志II Sangokushi II 光栄 KOEI ＳＬＧ 14,800円 T-76023 8M [Battery]
1992 4月29日 大航海時代 Uncharted Waters 光栄 KOEI ＳＬＧ 11,800円 T-76053 8M [Battery]
1992 5月28日 シーザーの野望II Ambition of Caesar II マイクロネット Micronet ＳＬＧ 8,800円 T-22063 8M [Battery]
1992 6月25日 ロイヤルブラッド Royal Blood / Gemfire 光栄 KOEI ＳＬＧ 9,800円 T-76063 8M [Battery]
1992 7月24日 ダイナブラザーズ Dyna Brothers ＣＲＩ CRI ＳＬＧ 8,800円 T-68033 8M
1992 9月24日 提督の決断 Pacific Theatre of Operations 光栄 KOEI ＳＬＧ 14,800円 T-76073 8M [Battery]
1992 9月26日 キングサーモン King Salmon ホット・ビィ Hot-B ＳＬＧ 6,800円 T-28053 4M
1992 10月23日 ヴィクセン３５７ Vixen 357 メサイヤ NCS/Masaya ＳＬＧ 8,800円 T-25133 8M [Battery]
1992 11月 1日 エアーマネジメント大空に賭ける Aerobiz 光栄 KOEI ＳＬＧ 11,800円 T-76083 8M [Battery]
1992 11月 8日 三國志III Sangokushi III 光栄 KOEI ＳＬＧ 14,800円 T-76093 12M [Battery]
1992 12月11日 ランパート Rampart テンゲン Tengen ＳＬＧ 6,800円 T-48053 4M
1993 1月16日 ヨーロッパ戦線 Operation Europe 光栄 KOEI ＳＬＧ 12,800円 T-76113 8M [Battery]
1993 3月25日 蒼き狼と白き牝鹿 元朝秘史 Ghengis Khan 2 光栄 KOEI ＳＬＧ 11,800円 T-76103 10M [Battery]
1993 4月23日 メガロマニア Mega-Lo-Mania ＣＲＩ CRI ＳＬＧ 8,800円 T-68053 8M
1993 5月28日 太閤立志伝 Taikō Risshiden 光栄 KOEI ＳＬＧ 11,800円 T-76123 10M [Battery]
1993 6月18日 パワーモンガー Power Monger ＥＡＶ Electronic Arts / Victor ＳＬＧ 8,900円 EM20011 8M [Battery]
1993 7月30日 騎士伝説 Kishin Daisenryaku / Panzer Commander 講談社総研 Hot-B / Kodansha ＳＬＧ 9,800円 T-46033 10M [Battery]
1993 9月15日 信長の野望 全国版 Nobunaga's Ambition 光栄 KOEI ＳＬＧ 8,800円 T-76033 4M [Battery] [Mouse]
1993 12月 3日 ダイナブラザース２ Dyna Bros. 2 ＣＲＩ CRI ＳＬＧ 8,800円 T-68063 16M [6]
1994 1月14日 ジェネラル・カオス 大混戦 General Chaos ＥＡＶ Electronic Arts / Victor ＳＬＧ 8,900円 EM20025 8M
1994 2月18日 エアーマネジメントII 航空王をめざせ Aerobiz Supersonic 光栄 KOEI ＳＬＧ 12,800円 T-76143 8M [Battery]
1994 2月25日 信長の野望 覇王伝 Nobunaga's Ambition 2 光栄 KOEI ＳＬＧ 12,800円 T-76153 16M [Battery]
1994 5月27日 Ｆ１１７ステルスオペレーション:ナイトストーム F117 Night Storm ＥＡＶ Electronic Arts / Victor ＳＬＧ 9,800円 EM20029 16M
1994 6月24日 大航海時代II Uncharted Waters: New Horizons 光栄 KOEI ＳＬＧ 11,800円 T-76163 16M [Battery]
1994 8月26日 ラングリッサー２ Langrisser 2 メサイヤ NCS/Masaya ＳＬＧ 9,800円 T-25143 16M [Battery]
plus Mega CD.
I believe that the SNES/SFC only has around 100 fairly straight-RPGs, if you don't pad the list with war sims, adventure, digicomics, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daria
Which would include the following, give or take (and not counting the handful of Sega CD RPGs and strategy games released in the US):Quote:
Originally Posted by retrospiel
A Rank Thunder Tanjouhen (Aランクサンダー 誕生編)
After Armageddon Gaiden (アフターハルマゲドン外伝 魔獣闘将伝エクリプス)
Aisle Lord (アイルロード)
Alshark (アルシャーク)
Arcus 1-2-3 (アークス I・II・III)
Arslan Senki [The Heroic Legend of Arslan] (アルスラーン戦記)
Burai: Hachigyoku no Yuushi Densetsu (ブライ 「八ハチ玉タマのノ勇士ユウシ伝説デンセツ」)
Cosmic Fantasy Stories (コズミック ファンタジー ストーリーズ)
Daihoushinden (大封神伝)
Death Bringer: The Knight of Darkness (デスブリンガー)
Faeria (aka Seirei Shinseiki Fhey Area)（精霊神世紀フェイエリア）
F.H.B. - Funky Horror Band (惑星ウッドストック - ファンキー・ホラー・バンド)
Game no Kanzume Vol. 1 & 2 [Sega Games Can Vol. 1 & 2] (セガのかんづめ）(includes the Phantasy Star text adventures)
Genei Toshi: Illusion City (幻影都市)
Genghis Khan II: Clan of the Gray Wolf [Aoki Ookami to Shiroki Mejika: Genchou Hishi] (蒼き狼と白き牝鹿 元朝秘史)
Ishii Hisaichi no Daisekai [Hisaichi Ishii's Political World] (いしいひさいちの大政界)
Mahou no Shoujo: Silky Lip （魔法の少女シルキーリップ）
Mega Schwarzschild (メガシュヴァルツシルト)
Might and Magic III: Isles of Terra （マイト アンド マジックIII Isles of Terra）
Nobunaga no Yabou: Haouden (信長の野望 覇王伝)
Record of Lodoss War [Lodoss Tou Senki: Eiyuu Sensou] (ロードス島戦記)
Romance of the Three Kingdoms III: Dragon of Destiny [Gekijoban Sangokushi III] (三國志III)
Seima Densetsu 3x3 Eyes [3x3 Eyes: Legend of the Divine Demon] (サザンアイズ)
Shadowrun （シャドウラン）
Shin Megami Tensei [New Digital Devil Story / Devil Summoner: The New Adventure] （真・女神転生）
SimEarth （シムアース）
Tenbu: Mega CD Special (天舞メガＣＤスペシャル)
Tenkafubu: Eiyuutachi no Houkou （天下布武 英雄たちの咆哮）
I've included strategy games, BTW -- just like retrospiel's list earlier, which errs of the side of inclusivity. However there are a bunch of games that still don't belong on that list, like F-117 Night Storm, Rampart, and General Chaos, none of which are even close to being RPGs.
EDIT: Might as well specify the US Sega CD games that qualify in varying degrees:
AD&D: Eye of the Beholder
Dark Wizard
Dune
Dungeon Explorer
Dungeon Master 2: Skullkeep
Heimdall
Lunar: The Silver Star
Lunar: Eternal Blue
Popful Mail
Power Monger
Shining Force CD
Third World War
Vay
Is Patlabor a good game? Is nobody caring for it to be translated anytime?
I've heard that there's a Russian translation in progress, but I don't know anything about the potential English translations. Though, from what I've played, I can tell you that it's mostly an adventure game with some RPG battle sequences. It seemed rather average overall, but I haven't played for a long time. There are some other Genesis translations in progress though. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by chilled
Man I wish those anime licenses got translated
I also think that a Patlabor translation would be great. I'm not expecting it to happen any time soon though as it doesn't look like the most exciting game ever made.
There can't be too many games left that require translation now. I know there are plenty that aren't translated but most of them are playable anyway, so maybe Patlabor will see a translation at some point.
Well those look interesting to me, at the very least from a single aspect (graphics or other) and AFAIK I cannot play them. Maybe Dyna Brothers with some effort and guides but still:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Moham
A Ressha de Gyoukou MD Take the 'A' Train
Bahamut Senki
Dragon Slayer - The Legend of Heroes
Dragon Slayer II - The Legend of Heroes
Dyna Brothers
Dyna Brothers 2 - Sega Channel Special
Hybrid Front, The
Hyokkori Hyoutanjima
Janou Touryumon
Jantei Monogatari
Madou Monogatari I
Mahjong Cop Ryuu - Shiro Ookami no Yabou
Maten Densetsu
NHK Taiga Drama Taiheiki
Ninja Burai Densetsu
Patlabor
Sangokushi Retsuden
Shura no Mon
Yuu Yuu Hakusho Gaiden
And that's without even considering unlicensed Taiwanese RPGs which look graphically impressive.
I remember that someone was working on translating The Hybrid Front, I do not remember the name of the group right now but they created a thread on the Romhacking forums.
And on the same site there is a user called Malias who is working on the translation of Panorama Cotton, i think he was very close to finish the project.
I saved some of the screens of the work in progres.
Right now I only remember those two, does anyone know if there is any other game being translated?
Speaking of The Hybrid Front - that would be me, celcion and TheMajinZenki. It's still in production, as we need to completely redo the menus, to be able to fit all the script in without mangling it horribly. As you might expect, that's what's taking the bulk of the time, as the script itself is fully translated already. You're right - Malias is almost done with PC. The game was retranslated from scratch by SamIAm from what I recall, which is why it needs a bit more time in the oven.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heri
I believe Bahamut Senki is also a WIP, by Supper/Filler. Then there's Surging Aura of course. That's all I know of, but it's possible someone else is working on some other project in secrecy.
Bahamut Senki would also be awesome yes! Also what happened to Sorcerian?
http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=27154.0
I've been waiting a while for this one.
I believe SSTranslations did the initial work on it, but they're no longer active. So, most likely nobody is working on it, same as that Yu Yu Hakusho game. I'm guessing that the next most likely projects for MD will be the Dyna Brothers games. Perhaps also that one Madou Monogatari game - though I'd rather work on the remaining Game Gear entries, personally, just to finish off that series for good.Quote:
Originally Posted by chilled
Sorcerian sounds like it might be one of the most interesting out of the untranslated games. The 10 scenarios are original to that version, and were written by various people at SEGA - even Bo wrote one. For those not in the known, it's a side-scroller RPG, divided into subquests / scenarios, originally by Falcom.
I know it's been done to death elsewhere, but usually translation requests end up being just a alphabetical list of all the untranslated japanese games. Let's do a short one of the most wanted ones! Please do not suggest for this list games which are fully playable without translation. Here's mine IIRC:
- Shura no Mon
- Patlabor
- Surging Aura (WIP)
Strategy:
- Bahamut Senki
- The Hybrid Front (WIP)
- Dyna Brothers 1 & 2
- Ninja Burai Densetsu
Falcom RPG/Strategy Dragon Slayer series:
- Sorcerian (only the menus are translated)
- Lord Monarch
- Dragon Slayer I & II
^ My most wanted ones are those you mention which are WIP. I actually made a poll about this topic, but it's quite outdated now, though:
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthr...nslation-patch
Maybe a new one should be made?
The Panorama Cotton translation has been completed and released
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/4292/
^figures, I made a post in the games review thread. Well, people should be well informed at any rate.
I've finished Panorama cotton yesterday, its amazing with translation...
we can enjoy the game alot more..
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D07-xOcX4AA2hYy.jpg
I've just made a surprising amount of progress with translating a Japanese game. There isn't much text that needed to be changed, but I ran into the usual problem of running out of space in the text box in a few places. Is there a straightforward fix for this issue? I'm aware that people sometimes put all the translated text at the end of the rom and then point the game in the direction of that new text, so is there a tool or a method that helps with that or do I need to spend a long time looking at a disassembly?
Any help with this is appreciated, but please don't expect to see me release a translation patch when I'm done. The translation is just something I'm using to learn and it isn't accurate enough for a general release.
I don't know much about translating in particular, but I've done ROM hacking. It very much depends on the game, but in my experience, you generally don't need disassembly to change addresses. If the addresses are absolute, you can just replace them to any address you want, but if they're relative (like, the leading byte is omitted or common for all), it can get more trickier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Moham
If you don't know where addresses are located, there are various ways to figure that out. A naive one would be to do a search based on a location that you believe is the start of a data block likely to be referenced by an address. Example: you know some text starts at address 0x387BA, so you look for "0387BA" or just "87BA" in the ROM.
If it works, it's definitely good enough for a release. There are loads of incomplete, erroneous or buggy translations around, it's still better than nothing, and can always be improved later.Quote:
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Thanks dude. That's another hurdle overcome. This is my first attempt at this type of project and I'm really enjoying the process. If a half decent translation comes from it then I'll release it but to be honest I'm relying too much on some of the worst resources to translate the text. Translation is being done through a combination of:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stifu
- My own experience from when I was learning Japanese for a previous job (I left that job a long time ago).
- A friend who lived in Japan for a few years in the 1990s.
- Google translate (its worth it for some of the hilariously bad translations sometimes).
So I hope no one expects a new game to come out of my efforts, the game is mostly playable in Japanese anyway. Maybe if I get the game halfway there I'll ask for help with the rest of the translation. I used to have a Japanese friend, who had been quite willing to help with these kinds of projects, but we haven't talked in years.
I'm actually really enjoying the process of translating a game, now I wish I had discovered romhacking sooner. I would love to get this finished, but as this is my first attempt at this type of thing, I'm expecting to hit a huge obstacle somewhere and will probably have to abandon the project. We'll see what happens.
https://i.imgur.com/yCs1HSs.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tq7rbwy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FPwarsI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AbFrj7a.jpg
And that's when you head to the romhacking.net forums and ask for help, which they'll most likely give you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Moham
since you've already made quite some progress with your translation hack.
Mad Moham, it looks to me like you've already overcome the main obstacles. Way to go. :)