ps1 had a treasure load of great games that were digitized graphics on 3d backgrounds. ESPN extreme games comes to mind as one of the better ones, yep kind of difficult at first 2xtreme was good too after I got used to it. road rash, Grandia, NHL faceoff 97, Xenogears , Sub Zero mythologies, NFL gameday 96 and 97, Final Fantasy Tactics, and many more that I can't think of at the moment
I like the ones with proper 2D art on 3D backgrounds (like grandia or final fantasy tactics).
When the characters are digitised I can totally tell it's lame fake 3D and can't suspend my disbelief, same for the reverse (3D characters on digitised 2D backgrounds).
The 3D also has to compliment the sprites' style, but I like stuff like Grandia, BoF3 as well as prerendered cgi sprites like Shining Force III. Shining the Holy Ark has a great engine and the environments look great, but I don't like some of the character designs.
Shining Force 3 works ok because the characters are really cartoony. The shading is a bit messed up though, would work better if the colours were warmer like in Golden Sun.
I'm confused, and now maybe I've got this all wrong but aren't digitized graphics games based on live-models like Mortal Kombat or Road Rash?
Xenogears and Grandia to me are not digitized but 2D sprites on 2D drawn or pre-rendered backgrounds mapped within a 3D environment.
Then I think games like Wild Arms or Albert Odyssey are 3D sprites on 2D backgrounds so that's 2.5?
Oh... oh man, I'm mixed up. All I know for certain is Yoshi's Story on N64, whatever its aesthetic genre has got to be the ugliest game ever made...
There are far worse, but it's one of the worst looking nintendo games that's for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lync
Those badly scaled, blurry sprites sprites on top of those cardboard backrounds... Ugh... Neat idea, didn't work at all.
"Digitized" graphics refers to anything with images converted into digital form (e.g. from photographs), as opposed to images that are digital to begin with (e.g. pixel art, CG, etc). They needn't be live models or anything "real" -- you can digitize plastic models, existing artwork, etc.Quote:
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But yes, Grandia and Xenogears do not used digitized graphics, as far as I am aware.
So what's the term for 3D Blast or DKC if not digitized?
Pre-rendered and Digitized graphics, to me, have always been charming as well as kitchey. The only time where I found them utterly appalling was in Operation Ragnagard for the Neo Geo. I could feel myself dry heaving just from looking at it
N.A.R.C. still looks amazing to this day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sGN894PdEU
Pre-rendered.Quote:
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I don't know most of the games referred to except Road Rash. Are you talking about the original Road Rash or the later 32-bit versions?
As for me, I have always had a preference for the early, non-textured 3D games like Virtua Fighter, Virtua Racing, Shadow Squadron, etc. I'm not sure why, maybe it's because they were so new and different from the games I had been playing. I didn't really like the early flight and racing sims because they were so slow but when they started making them fast, I was hooked. It's not that I don't like textured 3D graphics but I have always liked the look of the early 3D games.
I'm the same way, I think it's because of the minimalistic simplicity of them because they had so little room to work with to try and render something to make it actually look like what it was supposed to be (I also really love early computer animation for the same reason)Quote:
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It's also kind of astounding that 3D has been around practically since video games were invented, though the vast majority of them were limited to wireframe vectors and not solid polygons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70OVIlxRIA0
I tend to feel the same, digitized just doesn't look good to me no matter the genre. But I love tactics games with 2d sprites in 3d environment, for example I really like the look Project X Zone.Quote:
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got it running at 60 frames per second on my TV
The very first game day game day 96, not numbered, is by far one of the most overlooked underrated gems of the ps1 library. it's incredibly fun to play like Tecmo Super Bowl but the 32 bit equivalent equivalent. 97 is a bit different they tried to make it more realistic and simulation like, not to mention it is the very first football game to feature the modern day total control passing system. the game is fun but not as fun and easy at to get into as the first.
perhaps I still need to learn more about gameday 97 it has a very steep learning curve, I love the extras they made the game much more interactive
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I think Mortal Kombat Mythologies fit to the description.
Terrible controls though.