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I was wondering if anyone can tell me where to find Gem 12. I'm pretty frustrated, I've made it all the way back to the castle after doing the island quests, only to find out I somehow missed Gem 12 along the way, and am unable to use my sun instrument.
If anyone could help me locate this gem it would be very appreciated. Google has yielded zero helpful results.
Thanks in advance.
I can. Move your mouse cursor over the black portion of the message below.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadpixels
The final gem is located in the jeweler's shop, in the Capital. Do you recall the annoying loose nail the prince always trips over upon entering the shop? Have him use the wooden mallet to pound it into the floor, thus revealing...
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Originally Posted by CMA Death Adder
I appreciate your help, however that is Gem 1, I've already recovered that one. Gem 12 appears at about the 2 o'clock location on the Sun Instrument, so I have a feeling I may have missed it pretty early on in the adventure.
Still no luck. Does anyone know if the dog who chases you in the fisherman's town has anything to do with getting a gem? I really can't think of where I would have missed getting this thing...
Ah, excuse me. I haven't played through the game in quite a while, so I don't remember which gem is which; only that the majority of players end up missing the gem found in the jewelry store.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadpixels
If I can free up the time, I'll jump into the game and find the answer for you.
He does not.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadpixels
Thanks Brandon, that'd be very awesome of you if you went out of your way and did that. If the gems are listed in order of when you obtain then (with one being both the first and last because you re-collect it) I'm assuming I must have missed something in the witch's cave, though I thought you were awarded those gems after the boss fight as loot.Quote:
Originally Posted by CMA Death Adder
So yeah, that's me being stumped lol.
You get one after defeating the witch (Gem 2), and two in the cave w/the Red Dragon (I forget which numbers they are).Quote:
Originally Posted by deadpixels
I can't guarantee I'll be able to jump into the game and jot down a complete list of the gems and their locations -- I checked, and I only kept one retail copy of Beggar Prince for myself. Since I never played through that particular copy, I'd need to start at the beginning and play through the entire game. My prototype copies (with saves at or near the end) are presently in storage.
The thing about Beggar Prince is, it can be unforgiving (much like real life) in that you must accomplish everything in certain areas the first time you visit them, as you may not be able to return to them later. Some players find it frustrating, but I look at it as a slice of (painful) reality.
Does this mean that if you miss a gem (and you can't go back) you won't be able to complete the game?Quote:
Originally Posted by CMA Death Adder
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Originally Posted by CMA Death Adder
I play games to ESCAPE real life, not to be reminded of it. http://www.sega-16.com/forum/images/icons/meh.gif
So far as I can recall, this isn't the case with any of the gems. But it is the case with the shoes that provide safe passage over the quicksand.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDB1983
Not to sound argumentative, but I look at it as something no RPG should ever have. Making you start over when you're already well into it because you missed an item? That's fine for games like Shadow of the Beast and The Immortal which aren't very long, but not a 20+ hour game. Including a "start over" bit anywhere but the very beginning is just a poor design choice IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by CMA Death Adder
woooooooooow!!
If I remember correctly, I don't think there actually is a Gem 12... there's Gems 1-11, and then there's a Sun Stone, which is bigger and kind of red. I believe the Sun Stone was obtained in the desert pyramid, but don't hold me to that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by deadpixels
Thanks inframan, I appreciate it! My Sun Instrument is missing a gem at a point still in the image from my inventory. I really can't figure out what's wrong when I'm trying to use it on the guards in the city.Quote:
Originally Posted by InfraMan
:confused:
Weird... but you did manage to complete the Sun Instrument? In other words, did all the gems and the Sun Stone disappear from your inventory? Once you have all the components for the Instrument, they should all vanish from your inventory.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadpixels
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Beggar-Prince-Seg...item230808d42f
Someone on Ebay just spent $92 on this game.
Brandon, this is proof you need to make more! :)
Nope, they are all in my inventory. I really can't think of what I missed. It'd be a shame if a goof like this stops me from finishing the game, but I really don't think I can be bothered to play it again after wasting so much time.Quote:
Originally Posted by InfraMan
Have a look at this, perhaps it will help you out.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadpixels
http://www.gamespot.com/genesis/rpg/...095&pid=931595
Beggar Prince was reviewed in issue #17 of Games Tribune magazine!
http://www.gamestribune.com/numero-1...-2010_0013008/
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Originally Posted by deadpixels
Do you know exactly which gem you're missing? You probably already know this, but if you go into your inventory and choose "Info" for each gem, it'll show you the number for each one. Knowing which ones you have so far may help to narrow down what you might have missed.
And I thought EGM was a bit behind at times with their reviews. These guys are over 4 YEARS LATE to the party.Quote:
Originally Posted by CMA Death Adder
Not at all. When it comes to informing people about the classic gaming movement, it's never too late. We appreciate all press attention, regardless of when and where it appears. It carries the news of our dream, and that's timeless.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Coop
Well, I see it like this...Quote:
Originally Posted by CMA Death Adder
The game's sold out, and no more copies are currently planned if memory serves. So all those who are finding out about it now, are basically SOL unless they go to an ebayer and pay (at least) twice as much for it.
It's like saying, "Oh yeah, this is out, but it's too late to get it now." They're calling attention to it after the fact basically. I realize it'll get people to your site to see what's currently available, but for anyone wanting BP, it's kind of a cruel tease.
But, congrats on the press nonetheless. Still think it could have been A LOT more timely on their part though.
I see it quite differently. They are informing people about a new game for a classic system; people who might otherwise be unaware that anyone out there is actively providing such products. It's about hope - hope that someone cares enough about these machines (that the big companies abandoned) to do something positive with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Coop
When the author of the article contacted me, he said that he himself was "too late" to buy Beggar Prince, but after playing it at a friend's house he was inspired to write about it and share news of its existance with other gamers. I think it's a very positive thing.
Would you then say the same thing about our releasing a new Genesis game in 2006, rather than in, say, 1996? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Coop
At any rate, thanks for your congratulations. It always inspires me to learn of new press about Beggar Prince, because it's a continued reminder that what we did made a huge impact on classic gamers around the world. When Super Fighter Team was founded, that was a core goal.
You should ROM it if you wont re release it, maybe fix the bugs too
Dude, would you, like, just shut up?
I'm willing to wait several years for a ROM release. Especially if the game breaking bugs are fixed! That would be an advantage over the cart release.
Though I have already stated it here several times before, I will state it once again for clarity's sake:Quote:
Originally Posted by salamando
We will NOT release Beggar Prince in any way, shape or form other than a Genesis / Mega Drive game cartridge.
I will not entertain discussion of this matter, so please, for the sake of everyone, let it drop. Thank you for understanding.
Trolling trolls are trolling trolls!!Quote:
Originally Posted by salamando
Yep, looks like I'm missing Gem 12.Quote:
Originally Posted by InfraMan
I'm almost positive that there isn't a Gem 12, so you should have all the gems. Are you missing the Sun Stone?Quote:
Originally Posted by deadpixels
Nope, I have the Sun Stone. I'll have to check again at some point tonight. The only thing I can think of is if somehow my copy is glitching and the final Sun Instrument isn't being created for some reason. I'll keep you posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by InfraMan
Did you check out this link that I posted before, or did it get lost in all the shuffle?Quote:
Originally Posted by deadpixels
http://www.gamespot.com/genesis/rpg/...095&pid=931595
Nope, it's no glitch. Either you missed a gem somewhere during the quest, or you mistakenly tried to use one during battle.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadpixels
I wrote that review. Our magazine has existed for 18 months now and the retro/unlicensed section was created just 5 months ago, when I joined the team (so yeah, most retro articles and ALL unlicensed MD game reviews are written by me at the moment). How anyone would pretend we'd publish a review for a game that was released 3 years before our mag was born is beyond me :PQuote:
Originally Posted by The Coop
Also, GamesTribune has been the most read online videogame mag for a few months now and a new writer for retro and unlicensed games was needed. That's where the staff coordinator offered me to join. My first review was, go imagine, Legend of Wukong ;) About 5 months later, I thought letting more spaniards know about Beggar Prince was just the right thing to do. The fact that it's been sold out for ages has nothing to do with the game's awesomeness, in my humble opinion.
Actually, Brandon himself will be interviewed in our mag next month (by me) about past and future projects.
Yep, in spanish, sorry :)
Best,
Carlos Oliveros
EDIT: btw, I've been a big fan of Sega-16 for a looong time, but I hadn't signed up until now, silly me!
Hey, welcome to the forums, Carlos!Quote:
Originally Posted by synapse
http://cgi.ebay.com/200511515985 - I demand you guys do a reprint! :o
Wow those were $80 like 3 months ago. I'm sure glad I got mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Christuserloeser
To be fair, I didn't know when your mag/site came about since every time I tried to connect before (and again 10 minutes ago) I got a Database Error :PQuote:
Originally Posted by synapse
But in all seriousness, and also to be fair, 1.5 years ago when the mag you work for came about, the game was still being sold (second run version? third run?). It's a shame they waited until the game was sold out before deciding to cover it. I feel sorry for the poor souls who pay ebay prices for it now ($464? Holy shitballs Batman!)
Again, the mag was founded only 18 months ago (1,5 years).
Nobody "decided" to cover it. I was offered a place in the team to cover retro and unlicensed games, so both Beggar Prince and Legend of Wukong were great choices to write about. Others have been Shui Hu Feng Yun Zhuan and Yang Warrior Family.
ALL retro stuff I write about has been sold out and discontinued for years, should I give up writing then?
Now seriously, I understand your points. But the fact that this or that game is rare, near impossible to find or sold out shouldn't prevent me from writing about it if I think the game deserves the coverage. Specially in such obscure "field" as unlicensed retro (mostly) chinese games.
Shit. Hit the wrong key. Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by synapse
Now now, no need to get snippy. But let's be honest, Beggar Prince isn't the same situation as Thunder Force III. BG was released just a few years ago, well after the system was dead. That's source material for a nice article on the retro scene, especially since I believe the DC and the Genesis both had games freshly out (or about to come out) 1.5 years ago, with the hyped Adventure II having come out a year before that.Quote:
Originally Posted by synapse
No one's suggesting otherwise. And while knowing the whole situation now puts it all in a different light, a little more timeliness on the part of those who were there before you still wouldn't have hurt. After all, the retro/unlicensed scene's gotten busier these last few years, and pointing that out in a premier issue (and keeping up with it in a designated section) would have been quite nice. I know, "better late than never" for the section and all, but still...Quote:
Originally Posted by synapse
By the way, any articles on the DC scene? NG:Dev's been pretty busy.