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There's literally no way to prevent that other than ignoring people who vote for Sparkster as their number 2. Clearly they can only be trolling.Quote:
Originally Posted by tryphon
You could always just... you know... not do that and just make the top 100 list you want to make :p.
I can't list 100 games without it getting completely arbitrary, so here's 30 games I go back to a lot.
1. Revenge of Shinobi MD
2. Alien Soldier MD
3. Sonic CD MCD
4. Columns MD
5. Super Hang-On MD
6. Spider-Man vs the Kingpin MCD
7. Virtua Racing Deluxe 32X
8. Contra Hard Corps MD
9. Streets of Rage MD
10. World of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck MD
11. Bari-Arm MCD
12. Streets of Rage II MD
13. Granada MD
14. Knuckles Chaotix 32X
15. Shadow Dancer MD
16. Alisia Dragoon MD
17. Battlecorps MCD
18. Streets of Rage II MD
19. Gleylancer MD
20. Virtua Fighter 32X
21. Wonder Boy in Monster World MD
22. Phantasy Star IV MD
23. Landstalker MD
24. Castle of Illusion MD
25. Rolling Thunder 3 MD
26. Jaguar XJ220 MCD
27. Side Pocket MD
28. NBA Jam MD
29. Castlevania Bloodlines MD
30. Sonic 3 & Knuckles MD
Except that I find the idea interesting. And the more I think of it, the more I'd say sparkster is my 2nd favourite game :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamahl
Rocket Knight Adventures master race my good man. May the best opossum win (even if it's technically the same opossum...).Quote:
Originally Posted by tryphon
I was joking. Never played Sparkster. But RKA is great for sure.
Mixing 32x, SegaCD and regular Genesis games together is a bit problematic in my opinion. For example, personally I feel that NBA Jam TE on the 32X is definitely better than the Genesis version. But Since far less people ever had a 32x and played that version (let alone ever compared the two), The 32x version is pretty much bound to Wind up with less votes overall. Similar probably also applies to Virtua Racing / Virtua Racing Deluxe and Eternal Champions / Challenge from the Dark Side.
/Edit: in all likelihood, both versions of these games will probably suffer in the overall Rating, since they will probably Wind up splitting their respective votes.
ok so here's mine. Sadly no place for Sagaia, Gaiares, Cannon Fodder, Space Harrier 32X, Columns and many others, damn!
Lots of arcade ports because these games are awesome regardless of how they fare againts their original counterpart. Very few puzzle games. And yes some people are going to put some not top tier games very high just to see them making into the list, but I hope it won't be a trend.
Also ordering 100 games seems quite arbitrary, that is true. I'm feeling my list would change dramatically if I made it 4 hours later. I don't know what Alien Soldier is doing so low.
Also a game having MD, CD and/or 32X versions is going to hurt its chances very much with this method. Algo maybe a 3-4 tier classification instead of 100 ordering could have been easier for us as we all have some top-tier games, some first-class ones, and then the ones with some flaws but great, and the ones everyone should look at even if they are predated by sequels or better similar games:
001) Bare Knuckle II
002) Landstalker
003) Sonic 2
004) Thunder Force IV
005) Ecco the Dolphin CD
006) Street Fighter II'
007) Sonic 3&K
008) Shining Force II
009) Flashback
010) Gunstar Heroes
011) Kid Chameleon
012) Sonic
013) Ecco II CD
014) Phantasy Star IV
015) Snatcher CD
016) Super Street Fighter II
017) World of Illusion
018) Soleil (Crusader of Centy)
019) Quackshot
020) Castle of Illusion
021) Aladdin
022) Final Fight CD
023) Comix Zone
024) Jungle Strike
025) Beyond Oasis
026) Samurai Shodown
027) Shinobi III
028) Bare Knuckle III
029) Ristar
030) Vectorman 2
031) NBA Live 95
032) Earthworm Jim 2
033) Dynamite Headdy
034) Micro Machines TT 96
035) Lunar II Eternal Blue CD
036) Alien Soldier
037) Gley Lancer
038) FIFA Soccer 95
039) M.U.S.H.A.
040) Monster World IV
041) NBA Jam T.E. 32X
042) Revenge of Shinobi, The
043) Rocket Knight Adventures
044) Twinkle Tale
045) Vectorman
046) Yuu Yuu Hakusho Makyou Toitsusen
047) Eternal Champions CD
048) Bare Knuckle III
049) Popful Mail CD
050) Contra Hard Corps
051) Ghouls'N'Ghosts
052) Earthworm Jim CD
053) Thunder Force III
054) Castlevania Bloodlines
055) Virtua Racing Deluxe 32X
056) Sonic CD
057) Monkey Island CD
058) Doom 32X
059) Fatal Fury 2
060) Pirates! Gold
061) Undead Line
062) Pier Solar
063) Keio's Flying Squadron CD
064) Adventures of Batman and Robin, The
065) Kolibri 32X
066) Mickey Mania
067) Pulseman
068) Alisia Dragoon
069) Golden Axe
070) Lost Vikings, The
071) Knuckles Chaotix 32X
072) Gauntlet 4
073) Battle Mania 2
074) Strider
075) X-Men 2 Clone Wars
076) Lion King, The
077) Gynoug
078) Ranger X
079) Another World (Out of this World)
080) NHL 94
081) Chaos Engine, The (Soldiers of Fortune)
082) Panorama Cotton
083) Sub-Terrania
084) Super Monaco GP II
085) Joe & Mac
086) Maui Mallard
087) Mega Turrican
088) Sensible Soccer I.E.
089) After Burner Complete 32X
090) Prince of Persia (European version)
091) Pitfall 32X
092) Rainbow Islands
093) Snow Bros.
094) Sunset Riders
095) Sampras Tennis 96
096) Chiki Chiki Boys
097) TMNT The Hyperstone Heist
098) Flink CD
099) Virtua Fighter 32X
100) Panic! CD
Totally agree on this, that's why I included NBA Jam TE 32X even if I have always played the MD version. I think votes for those games should be merged, even when there are critical differences between versions (but then they are separate releases, so...).Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantar
Same thing also for many CD games like Eccos, or even great PC games like Monkey Island. I would prefer a top 10 32X + top 20 MCD + top 100 MD separate vote system.
Yeah, but the TurboGrafx-16 version is the full game in one HuCard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamahl
My mistake for not clarifying this, for games released across Sega CD, 32X, and stock Genny/MD all votes for all versions will be added into the same total. If say for example 10 people vote for regular Genesis version of Ecco, and another 12 people vote for the Sega CD version, the total for Ecco will be 22 votes, but on the final list the CD version will represent because it got the majority votes. I will specify in the countdown which versions got how many votes. Also this goes for different versions of games like Bare Knuckle 3 vs Streets of Rage 3. If BK3 gets 10 votes and SOR III gets 5 votes, it will tally together for a total of 15 votes(and however many total points), but BK3 will be the representative, same goes for Sonic CD us vs Sonic CD Japan, etc. Be sure to vote for your favorite version of the game.
I would strongly discourage this. Every little point is going to matter here. Somebody that sends a list of 25, those 25 points are going to make a BIG difference in the final rankings. If you just throw games on to pad your points, you are going to give points to games that don't deserve it. I strongly encourage you guys to just do what is comfortable to you. 100 game lists should be reserved for only the hardcore guys like me, I have about 150-200 games that I would love to list so that final 100 will really be hard for me to pin down. Don't pad your lists, put some effort into your list, take the time and try some games out this month, read some reviews and really make something you will be happy with. I trust you.Quote:
I'm not sure the scoring is fair : it encourages to fill the list with whatever comes to mind in order to have the first games high scored.
re: PMing lists,
Except that latecommers are often influenced by seeing other people's lists. We'd get a less homogenized sampling of opinions if everyone's lists could be kept secret untill the results are compiledQuote:
Originally Posted by Barone
I've started working on mine, though I struggle to come up with 100 games I'd really want to advocate for. I'll be keeping mine under wraps because of the Spunkwater Effect, but I've enjoyed seeing others' lists.
Homogeneity is a danger with these kinds of lists, but I think part of the reason is that people put what they're "supposed" to put -- typically well-known graphical/technical showcases for the system and acclaimed AAA titles -- instead of what they've really played. I'd gently encourage everyone to focus instead on the games we have experience with & really loved playing, whether or not they're "supposed" to be good.
...like Phantasy Star IV :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Barone
Yes I hope he just forgot about this one because II is in there, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zz Badnusty
I'm reassured by Nobi's clarification. You could have a problem with sports game's iterations, though. But I guess not many people in here is going to put any Madden in their top 100. I didn't. But I left NBA Jam out since I put T.E. in there. And FIFA, NBA Live, NHL, etc or small 2-3 iterations (Micro Machines, Sampras, etc) could also be affected by that. I guess there's no easy way out of this. Also same thing for games which sequels didn't improve a lot on already awesome games (Vectorman, Earthwom Jim).
As for not forgetting any game, if it helps others, I just picked around 70-80 among the 250 list in the OP of the 'consensus' thread I already linked to in the first page, and then added my 32X & CD favorites, which are more than I remembered, specially when you realize many CD iterations are better than their cartridges (not all of them, as you know).
Heck, I just played through the first 4 levels Doom 32X for the sake of it. What a game. If you didn't know it comes from another platform (and that there are superior ports obviously) you'd all think it's the best cartridge ever made.
I'm with goldenband on this one. I'll be holding off from.publically Posting my list here, at least for now. I already kind of felt tempted to revise my.own choices just from what I read on other peoples' lists. Maybe I'll post my choices After the whole voting is through... Just to see how far I trailed from public consensus. ;)