You don't need facts when talking to gun fetishists.Quote:
Originally Posted by SEGA.GENESIS1989
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You don't need facts when talking to gun fetishists.Quote:
Originally Posted by SEGA.GENESIS1989
I saw the POV video, Scary
Or gun control fetishists.Quote:
Originally Posted by o.pwuaioc
They'll always say "there isn't anything you can do about it" despite it only regularly happening in like, one country.Quote:
Originally Posted by o.pwuaioc
When it happened in Norway there was practically national mourning for what they called a "tragic, shocking" event that practically brought the country to a standstill. In America? more often than a fucking sporting event.
But go on guys feel free to bring up that Lee Rigby stabbing event that happened fucking ages ago and hasn't happened since.
People will blame anything they feel like and talk about omg the decline of such a great nation as if they're pretty much powerless to do anything when the answer is just staring them in the face, stop making guns so easy to purchase, yet when gun control gets brought up in the reasonable manner it's "omg the lefty feminazis want to ban our guns!!111". then people die.
Ok, things like this don't happen often in European countries. How much smaller and less diverse are their populations than the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogogadget
So what your saying is, America should become more like Norway; and sentence people who murder 70 some odd people(mostly kids) to 25 years hard time playing PS2 in a college dorm room.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogogadget
Must be doing something right, haven't heard about any spree killings in Norway since.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crystalpepsifan
Not to be a jerk but is Norway the best comparison? It has population of 5 mil. vs the US's 330 mil in a place not much smaller than California. I haven't been to Norawy but spent mouths in Sweden and live with one. The culture differences between the Scandinavia and the US are so great a person could prove or disprove any point they wanted using the two. I would think somewhere like Russia might be a better comparison but even then they have more murders with less guns. I think we need to look at ourselves more than other nations. We are in a very unique situation.
I agree much needs to be done to keep guns out of crazy people's hands but there are many laws on the books already. It only takes one mistake for the wrong person to get one as we have seen lately their have been a lot pretty freaking big "mistakes". That doesn't even touch on the millions unaccounted for out there. Of course someone can pass all the tests with flying colors and still lose it.
Many politicians who are for gun control obsess over type, while little understanding the actual differences, rather than who gets them. The famous Kevin de León speech being a perfect example.
Then of course the important question of "Why are all these people snapping these days?" doesn't want to be answered by any party.
In short it all makes my head hurt and is like a giant episode of South Park.
Your first sentence makes for one hell of a talking point but realistically speaking it is a misnomer. Certain groups seem to believe one can pick up a firearm and instantly become Martin Riggs shooting a sniper 75yrs away up in a perch. Certainly it can be an effective method with which to kill if in the right hands but that isn't everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by sketch
For the life of me I can not understand how, again, certain groups expect the irrational to suddenly act rational. Laws aside and implements aside, someone irrational will do whatever it takes in their quest to harm someone.
Edit: Not trying to be morbid but the video of the event wasn't graphic to me. Then again I watched Budd Dwyer kill himself on live, uncensored television. That was graphic.
I'm curious, what do you suggest? If you were in charge of the USA, what would you do then? I'm not talking fantasy where you could snap your fingers and make all guns disappear, but what would you do to change things?Quote:
Originally Posted by sketch
Why are there so many lonely, socially maladjusted, unhappy, frustrated people in the world? Have they always existed in the numbers they do now? What started the whole taking revenge on the world thing that motivates a lot of these wackos? More importantly, can anything even be done?
I blame TumblrQuote:
Originally Posted by zetastrike
I also don't get she didn't run til the 4th shot
Yes, and sort of.Quote:
Originally Posted by zetastrike
The difference is that:
1) We hear about them a lot more thanks to media and the internet. If someone went crazy and killed a bunch of people 100+ years ago, no one might ever even know what happened.
2) These people have a massive outlet now to vent towards. Their voices can be heard, they will be paid attention to, even if it's after they die, or their freedom is removed. For people who felt they have been trivialized and/or pushed around all their life, that can be a big deal.
It's a big world out there, but it's also right in everyone's face now. There's no real hiding from it for most people. At the end of the day, that makes all the flaws more apparent to everyone.
It also makes the good things more apparent... but the media rarely blasts those out for everyone to see in the same way as the tragedies.