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Here's a link to a SNES playing Wolfenstein 3d. It seems to me this could have be handled esaily by the Genesis, so why was no Genesis version release? If it got past the Nintendo censors (who did remove alot from the game) why did it overlook Sega?
Heck, it even was on Atari Jaguar!
Please see this thread, for the technical issue involved.
http://www.spritesmind.net/_GenDev/f...r=asc&start=15
Interetsing. Seems it may be able to run, just slowly.
No ceiling, no floor... the Genesis could have done it... though not at full screen. Look at Zero Tolerance (which has a tiny screen) and Bloodshot (which has a huge screen). And I don't even think the programmers of Zero Tolerance fully took advantage of what could be done, though they did do a good job.
I bet a 32x could have done it.
The genesis can't address a single pixel on the screen like computers can, so that's a big problem.. The Sega CD can do this with it's ASIC, and output the tiles to the Genesis VDP as patterns...Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
In short, what ZT did, and Duke 3D did, that's about as best as you can do...
If you say so, but then again you don't know the Genesis anywhere near as well as her very best programmers did. Also, the best (key word, there) Genesis programmers do not hang out at developer forums, so you won't find them there, only people doing stuff on their own. Nothing about Wolfenstein 3D is very impressive, even for its time. I don't know why it would need to address a single pixel being as all that were on screen were super-blocky enemies and super-blocky walls. Quite pathetic,really.
To render 3D images on the screen, you need to really have a way to display images directly to the screen, for it to be fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
You don't really know the Genesis either, but those on the developer forums do know more than you. Frankly, you should read the forum, because we there know more than most programmers right now, because guess what, the days of real Sega programmers are gone.
You really don't need 3D for Wolfenstien 3D. The best you need is perspective-enabled texture mapping. The game barely uses any polygons, if any at all. The walls could be sprites for all I know. The Genesis version doesn't need to "work" the same way the computer version does, it just needs to look and feel similar when you play it.
that's the thing, the game was never texture mapped.. check out how the engine works. if you port a game, it has to run on the same engine, as the game levels were designed in this way..
the engine was a ray caster..
It can run any way the developers want it to run. Ghouls 'N Ghosts does not run on the same engine as its CPS-1 arcade counterpart, yet somehow it still works.
It's easy to give technical specifications, however, we all know the real reason Wolfenstein never got a release was because of Commies.
evildragon, stop pretending you´re one hell of a Genesis-expert. Though I can´t do a single line of code myself I know that the people in the scene who really know their stuff are laughing at you.
All you ever programmed (yes, I know your site) is such basic and simplistic stuff that nobody can take your comments on the MD´s capabilities serious.
But didnt mickey mania had those per pixel textures in some things and looked tons of better on genesis then on snes.I have to agree with joe except the color percentage which could be impossible to reach for the genesis,its very limited,sega cd shurly could do it and better then the snes the sega cd also could have done doom tons of better then the snes version,as for the sound snes doom and wolfen stein its sound way too muffed its sounds ugly like too bottomless really muffled.
Duke 3d i think worse example i couldnt surpasss the first level becouse it controls like crap and loos like crap altought i would have like too see how the city looked on a genesis.
I don't try to claim I know everything. On the contrary, I don't know everything. But there are some things I do know, and what's being stated here is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by 108 Stars
And it is my OPINION, that you can't have a game, that's atleast running on the same engine as the original, because the game would feel different.
(and my software are basic things, and were intended to be just that...)