Sony's PlayStation 2 is 15 years old today. Name your top 10 games.

The PlayStation 2 was released on October 26th, 2000. It ended up becoming the biggest selling console of all time. I think the fact that it was a poor man's DVD player helped a lot. The PS2 definitely helped with DVD movie sales. I was actually a bigger fan of the original Xbox at the time to be completely honest.

http://cdn2.tekrevue.com/wp-content/...oles_sales.jpg
BTW, ignore the WiiU numbers. This chart is from 2013



Here is my personal top 10 list for the PS2.

1.Ico
2.God of War
3.God of War 2
4.Devil May Cry
5.Shadow of the Colossus
6.Vampire Night
7.Rygar
8.Gradius V
9.Onimusha 3
10. R-Type Final

Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity

Joking aside, the PS2 never appealed to me. The Cube had a much better library in my, and my friends', opinions at the time. From what I remember, the PS2 cornered the adult market with Grand Theft Auto. I never really played the PS2. In fact, the first time I could play a PS2 game was when I got a PS3.

Some people really enjoyed it though. The Gran Turismo series was huge.

Hmmmm... favorite PS2 games...


In no order...

Vampire: Darkstalkers Collection (Japan only)
Gradius V
Okami
Samurai Shodown Anthology
Altered Beast (PAL version)
R-Type Final
Shadow Of The Colossus
Final Fantasy XII
The Legend Of Spyro series (yes, I'm cheating)
Resident Evil 4

15 years already? I actually remember deciding between dreamcast or PS2. My dad told me dreamcast was cheaper, which meant that I could get a few extra games instead of only 1. I ended up getting PS2 (Yes yes. SEGA fan heresy, I know) because someone told me that they were going to stop making games. This was in early '02, so that was definitely true. The backwards compatibility, and having a built in DVD player also made the choice easier. The first game I bought was Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex. I got it because I was a big fan of the PS1 games. It was okay, but not as good as the PS1 games. I was definitely a PS2 kid growing up, and I've probably played PS2 more than any other console with the possible exception of Genesis (which I also played to death).

Overall, I have a lot of great memories with the system. Getting the network adapter and playing online for the first time was an amazing experience. It's tied with Genesis for my favorite game console.

I think my top 10 games (one per franchise, no particular order) are:

Sly Cooper

Beyond Good and Evil (Fantastic game. It was a forgotten gem for the longest time, but it's gotten more popular over time.)

Gran Turismo 4

Ace Combat 04 (Probably my favorite air combat game. Great gameplay, and some interesting story elements.)

SSX Tricky

Ratchet and Clank 3. (and the first two for that matter)

Katamari Damaci (This was such an odd game when I first saw it. I'm glad that they kept in all of the Japanese craziness when they released it in the USA.)

GTA: San Andreas

Sky Odyssey (Somewhat obscure. It's a fun aviation game!)

Crash 'n Burn. (Probably nostalgia goggles. This is the only one on the list that I don't own anymore, so I can't make sure it was actually fun.)

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Originally Posted by Lan Di

The PlayStation 2 was released on October 26th, 2000. It ended up becoming the biggest selling console of all time. I think the fact that it was a poor man's DVD player helped a lot. The PS2 definitely helped with DVD movie sales. I was actually a bigger fan of the original Xbox at the time to be completely honest.

http://cdn2.tekrevue.com/wp-content/...oles_sales.jpg
BTW, ignore the WiiU numbers. This chart is from 2013



Here is my personal top 10 list for the PS2.

1.Ico
2.God of War
3.God of War 2
4.Devil May Cry
5.Shadow of the Colossus
6.Vampire Night
7.Rygar
8.Gradius V
9.Onimusha 3
10. R-Type Final

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Lol. Looks like it's time to get a Wii U. Great games. Awesome price! Soon to be obsolete. :D\

As for my top 10 PS2 games (Not to exceed more than one per franchise): (and in no particular order)

1. Onimusha 2
2. Devil May Cry
3. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
4. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
5. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
6. SNK Arcade Classics Vol. 1
7. Kingdom Hearts
8. God of War II
9. Shadow of the Colossus
10. Way of the Samurai

Gradius 3 and 4
Darkstalkers Collection
Street Fighter Alpha Anthology
King of Fighters 98 Ultimate Match
Mega Man Anniversary Collection
Taito Memories (all 4 volumes)
Capcom Classics Collection 1 and 2
Metal Slug Anthology
Samurai Shodown Anthology
The King of Fighters XI

What can I say, I love compilations and arcade ports. :D

Check this out...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HuUa4Lnw9I

Me and my sister's first DVD player was a ps2.

The only one I have is still sealed.

To be honest, during that generation of consoles I was mostly playing on PC.

Last true console hardware in my book and a great one IMO.

Probably the best racing library of all time (although I still prefer the PC exclusives of late '90s and early '00s). Very strong fighting library.
The rest of its highlighted genres doesn't appeal that much to me.

First half of its lifespan has a good chunk of what I consider to be the last batch of really great games; second half has a lot of the uninspired convoluted crap like we had for the entire 7th gen and which is the norm nowadays.

I've bought a fully HDD-modded fatty one recently and I need to put more time on it.

Let me list just 10 of the great racing games it had:
Burnout 3: Takedown
Enthusia Professional Racing
Gran Turismo 4
Grand Prix Challenge
NASCAR: Dirt to Daytona
Need for Speed Underground 2
OutRun 2006: Coast 2 Coast
Road Trip
TOCA Race Driver 2: The Ultimate Racing Simulator
Tourist Trophy

No specific order

ESPN Baseball
We Love Katamari
Katamari Damacy
Dragon Ball Z: Budokai 2
Black
SoulCalibur II
Burnout 3: Takedown
GTA: San Andreas
Madden NFL 10
Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection

Yeah, the PS2 has a stupid amount of fighters, if you like KOF in particular the machine has games in that series coming out of it's ears. Not only are all the original Neo Geo entries present and accounted for, but you have the Atomiswave ports and '98 Ultimate Match and '02 Unlimited Match to round things out.

The more old-school SNK fighters your thing? The Neo Geo Online Collection has most of that covered too. Plus excellent ports of the Metal Slugs.

Capcom and Arc System Works are also extremely well represented, stuff like Hokuto no Ken and Sengoku Basara X are well worth checking out. So are Fate Unlimited Codes and Melty Blood IMO.

Not just fighters, but as a fan of old 2D arcade games in general this thing had Taito Memories, Capcom Arcade Classics, Atari Anthology, the later Sega Ages entries and more.

If you can't tell, it's one of my favourite systems, and that's without even taking into account the 3D stuff on offer. As far as a top 10, I just can't. Sorry :)

Oh, wow? 15 years old?

In no particular order:

Katamari Damacy
Fire Pro Wrestling Returns
R Type Final
Outrun Coast 2 Coast
Bully
Gradius V
GTA Vice City
Ico
Okami
Gran Turismo IV

and a couple dozen fantastic compliations of various types. Love me some PS2.

I was going to say. I believe the PS3 and 360 have sold nearly 90 million units by now.


I didn't get my PS2, until the Gran Turismo 3 pack-in was available. While I certainly liked a lot of games on the console, and think that it has a lot of really great games to play, it only got the lion's share of gameplay time from me for about a year and a half. The Gamecube took up a lot of my gaming time, but it was the Xbox that eventually got the most playtime from me as that generation started winding down.

Here are some of my favorites:


1 - Guitar Hero 2
2 - God of War 2
3 - Final Fantasy X
4 - Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection
5 - Culdcept
6 - Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
7 - Ico
8 - Gran Turismo 4
9 - Burnout Revenge (actually, I liked it on Xbox)
10 - Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution

Its hard for me to round it down to just ten. Here's mine in no particular order:

- Fire Warrior
- Gran Turismo 3
- GTA Vice City
- GTA Vice City Stories (though technically a PSP game I suppose)
- ICO
- Metal Slug Anthology (if it counts)
- Gun
- Shadow of the Colossus
- Splinter Cell
- Rogue Trooper

I think I might actually have spent more time playing Vice City than just about anyone else in the world. OK maybe I'm exaggerating, but I still love playing that one.

1-15: WWE SmackDown! Here Comes The Pain

All day.

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Wait. So we're doing top 15's now? Seems appropriate. 15th anniversary and all. In that case;

11. King's Field The Ancient City
12. Rygar
13. Wizardry Tale of the Forsaken Land
14. Shox
15. Front Mission 4

The system had tons of great games, too many to count, and there's still loads out there I've not even heard of yet. Awesome machine.

My top 15 (in no given order)

Silent Hill 3
Grand Theft Auto Vice City
Zone of the Enders
Zone of the Enders 2: Second Runner
Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3
Hitman Blood Money (all round best game to date in the series)
Legacy of Kain Defiance
The Warriors (criminally underrated classic)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Hitman Contracts (has the best missions)
Bully
Super Dragon Ball Z (another overlooked classic)
Final Fantasy X*
Silent Hill 2
Marvel vs Capcom 2

* I'm sure there are better RPGs on the system, but this was the first I played, so it gets bonus points for that. Also, from what I remember (not loaded the disc up in years...should change that), the game was awesome anyway.

Ok then I'll give my top 15 a go, in no particular order:

- Super Monkey Ball Deluxe
- The King of Fighters '98 Ultimate Match
- Metal Slug 3
- Gradius V
- Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus
- R-Type Final (gets a lot of hate over on Shmups due to the slowdown and some empty level design, still love it tho)
- Do Donpachi Daioujou
- Fate: Unlimited Codes (you know 3D fighters that play 2D like Rival Schools etc - this is by far the best IMO)
- Melty Blood Actress Again
- Capcom Vs SNK 2
- Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution (IMO the best VF there is)
- Vampire Collection
- ESPGaluda
- Garou Battle Archives Volume 2
- the Taito Legends/Memories collections

So yeah. lotta 2D stuff in there, and being a Neo Geo fan the PS2 was, along with the Dreamcast, the first time there was enough RAM to do the ports justice. Apart from forcing 480i on some games, most of them are pretty spot on.

It's also a fine shmup machine (although the J360 trumps it IMO), with Arika turning in accurate ports of Do Donpachi Daioujou and ESPGaluda to name just two.

The PS2 certainly has something for everyone, and the arcade/2D fan is extremely well catered for. Perhaps more so than ever before.

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Wait. So we're doing top 15's now? Seems appropriate. 15th anniversary and all. In that case;

11. King's Field The Ancient City
12. Rygar
13. Wizardry Tale of the Forsaken Land
14. Shox
15. Front Mission 4

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To be honest I find the top 10 idea unfair in the most flattering way. How the hell are you meant to make a Top 10 PS2 games without some seriously painful cuts?

I can't really say... but I'll name some favorite in no particular order... (keep in mind some of these were released on more than just the PS2, but it's the only 6th Generation console I had at the time)

1. Time Splitters 2
2. Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
3. Mercenaries
4. Burnout Revenge
5. Bully

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To be honest I find the top 10 idea unfair in the most flattering way. How the hell are you meant to make a Top 10 PS2 games without some seriously painful cuts?

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Agreed. I could easily do a top 50. Like a moron, I completely forgot about The Warriors and Snake Eater until The Jackal mentioned them. Heh, I just thought of The Red Star. I liked that one as well. Possibly top 50 material.

The PS2 is one of the worst consoles ever based purely on my opinion, and is almost certainly be the system I dislike the most... but it also has a massive library, including some really good games. So, here's my list of 16 PS2 games I quite like, plus a bunch of honorable mentions that are also good.

1. Outrun 2006: Coast 2 Coast - An absolutely incredibly fun racing game, Outrun 2006 is a must-play on some platform. I happened to get it first for the PS2 so it's the version I've played the most. This well deserves its #1 spot, and it's one of the best racing games of the generation as well.
2. Ico - Fantastic platformer that deserves the accolades it gets.
3. Metal Slug Anthology - Metal Slug is amazing! The ports aren't perfect, but they are good enough.
4. Maximo: Ghosts to Glory - An awesome 3d platformer that is often under-rated.
5. Gradius V - One of the all-time-great shmups.
6. Final Fantasy XII - Probably my favorite Final Fantasy game ever.
7. The King of Fighters ’02/’03 - '02 might be the best KOF game, and I at least really love '03 as well.
8. The King of Fighters XI - The last KOF game with the Neo-Geo era sprites (though it's an Atomiswave arcade game) is really great as well. Huge roster, fantastic gameplay!
9. Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy - The first Jak game is a very good 3d platformer. Too bad about the genre change in the sequels...
10. Champions of Norrath: Realms of EverQuest - I love Gauntlet, and like Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance. This is like that latter game, and is about as good.
11. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King - A pretty good classic JRPG.
12. Unlimited SaGa - I know everyone hates this game, but all that hate made me want to try it, and I like it. This game REQUIRES playing with a guide, but there is a good game there beneath the confusion.
13. WipEout Fusion - A fantastic futuristic racing game! This game seems a bit overlooked compared to its predecessors, but it's really good as well.
14. Rogue Galaxy - I was quite surprised when I played this one with how great it is... but it is great. This is a very good action-RPG, play it.
15. Shining Force Neo - This action-RPG is more Diablo-esque. It's from the developer of the Lodoss War game for Dreamcast and plays like that one. Pretty good game.
16. Okami - Okami doesn't have as good pacing as a Zelda game, but as a huge Zelda fan I had to play this, and it is indeed really good.

Honorable Mentions: Primal, The King of Fighters 2006, Kinetica, Grand Theft Auto III, Chaos Wars, Soulcalibur III, Kya: Dark Lineage, Samurai Shodown Anthology, The King of Fighters ’98: Ultimate Match, Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim, Jet X2O, Tribes: Aerial Assault, Stuntman, Nightshade, World Heroes Anthology, Haven: Call of the King, Sly Cooper and the Thevius Raccoonus, Gradius III and IV, Dark Cloud, Tenchu: Fatal Shadows, Taito Legends 2, Champions: Return to Arms, Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht, Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven, Stella Deus: The Gate of Eternity, Shadow Hearts, The Mark of Kri

Generally when getting PS2 games I try to stick to games not available on the GC, Xbox, or PC, but obviously sometimes I get multiplatform games, often because PS2 versions are usually MUCH cheaper than other versions... so yeah, I have Okami and Metal Slug Anthology for PS2 and not Wii, and Outrun 2006 for PS2 (and also PSP and PC now), but not Xbox.


Oh yeah, and yes, my #1 favorite PS2 game, and also #14, along with my #s 5 and 9 favorite Gamecube games and my numbers 1, 4, 6, and 14 favorite Xbox games are all by Sega. Post-Dreamcast Sega was still pretty great for a little while...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg&

Maximo is a Capcom game.

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The PS2 is one of the worst consoles ever based purely on my opinion, and is almost certainly be the system I dislike the most...

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Really?? I am so shocked, I never saw that coming. :o

Try smearing some Vaseline on the screen, I'm sure that will make it blurry enough for you.

^Lmao. Rep given.

The PS2 is not even my favorite console. But if there is one game console you just can't shit on is the PS2. It simply has the biggest game library of any system EVER MADE! If you have a genre you prefer, IT WILL HAVE IT.

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^Lmao. Rep given.

The PS2 is not even my favorite console. But if there is one game console you just can't shit on is the PS2. It simply has the biggest game library of any system EVER MADE! If you have a genre you prefer, IT WILL HAVE IT.

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"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to QuickSciFi again".

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Metal Slug Anthology - Metal Slug is amazing! The ports aren't perfect, but they are good enough.

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I seem to remember shutting down this comp in disgust - the PAL version anyway - as it seemed to skip frames and was letterboxed IIRC. Not sure about the NTSC one. But if you like MS you'd probably be better off with the individual releases which cover 3-6 at least. Apart from the 480i thing they appear to be very accurate, and have bonus content not present in the Anthology.

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I seem to remember shutting down this comp in disgust - the PAL version anyway - as it seemed to skip frames and was letterboxed IIRC. Not sure about the NTSC one. But if you like MS you'd probably be better off with the individual releases which cover 3-6 at least. Apart from the 480i thing they appear to be very accurate, and have bonus content not present in the Anthology.

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The only US release of Metal Slug 3 on its own is on Xbox, and they messed it up by having continues start you back from the beginning of the level, instead of where you died. This makes level 5 nearly impossible; I've never managed to finish it because that last level is very long and even with 2 players, only 5 lives each is NOT enough for all that. The PS2 version as not released here because SCEA didn't allow SNK to release single Neo-Geo ports here -- too old graphics, and such. It's really too bad, because Xbox MS3 is a great game -- it looks and plays great, and there are apparently some unlockable extra modes if you can beat the game, so of course I'll never see them. Bah. There isn't one of those Mission School modes though, unfortunately.

Metal Slug 4 + 5 did get a US PS2 release as well as Xbox, but those are pretty much cartridge ports with maybe CD audio added, as far as I know. Not too much of a difference there between those and the Metal Slug Anthology versions...

And Metal Slug 6 was only released in the US in the Metal Slug Anthology collection. Oh, and between the Wii and PS2 versions, I got the PS2 because the Wii version has hit-flash removed, presumably for anti-epilepsy reasons. I'm sure that makes fighting the bosses a real pain, so PS2 version it is; the game has hit-flash on PS2.

As for the picture, I don't think it's letterboxed in NTSC, though I could check that. I don't know if it skips frames, though, and are the individual releases actually different there?

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Maximo is a Capcom game.

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? Yes it is, and a very good one. Both Maximo games really impressed me, hard or no. It's awful that after the second game the studio was shut down, that series really should have continued! Maximo doesn't have teh PS2's best graphics, but it does have some of the best gameplay.

On that note, one strength of the PS2 for me is that it has some of the generation's best 3d platformers, and that is important for me since I like that genre. Two Maximo games, three Sly Cooper games, four Jak games, Kya, and more, all as exclusives... while thanks to their really dumb decision to sell Rare, the GC has very few exclusive 3d platformers apart from the good but somewhat disappointing Mario Sunshine. Xbox-exclusive 3d platformers like Voodoo Vince or the Blinx games aren't exactly the best either.

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Try smearing some Vaseline on the screen, I'm sure that will make it blurry enough for you.

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You know what they say about "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"? Sure it outdoes the N64 by a lot, of course, but compared to the other consoles of its generation, the biggest problem with the PS2, in terms of graphics, is its terrible, super-jaggy image quality problems. The PS2 can put a lot of polygons on screen, as many as the GC or Xbox, and can do the most particle effects of any system that generation I believe, and such... but with hideously bad image quality for the time, it's often hard to see any of that behind the ugly picture. That kind of thing is excusable in a 5th-gen console, but none of the other 6th-gen systems have issues like the PS2 does! The DC may only be able to do like 1/8th the number of polygons as the PS2, but at least they look sharp and clear, while on PS2 that is uncommon. You get used to it after a while, but if you go back and forth between the PS2 and other 6th-gen or newer systems, it's noticeable.

Nice thread; Softmodding and adding a HDD to my PS2 is my favourite mod of all. No soldering or tinkering, and I did it all myself using the programs, guides and other utilities made by some very clever folk. That now said, it means there are quite a few of my backburner list on this HDD, making my list below a little tricky to come up with! Here it is in no particular order...

Ico; maybe my favourite. I Love the theme.

Shadow Of The Colossus; See above, what a game.

GTA SA; I had to pick one, it was a close call between this and Vice City.

Ecco DOTF; I just really love this game.

Black; Not a massive FPS nut, but this a solid game and looks great.

Burnout 3; Not a big racing nut either, but I like the extreme cartoon realism vibe here.

Virtua Fighter 4; Better music than Evolution and the fighting is about as good.

Time Crisis 3; Great fun and plays well with EMS LCD TV Top Guns.

Fur Fighters; One of my earlier purchases, I had a lot of fun with this one.

Manhunt; Good sick fun and really well executed (pun not intended,but kept in anyway) game mechanic.

Awesome console with an incredibly diverse library of games.

My Top-20 (in no particular order):

1. Shadow of the Colossus
2. Resident Evil 4
3. Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution
4. Metal Gear Solid 3
5. OutRun 2006: Coast 2 Coast
6. Burnout 3
7. Soul Calibur II
8. Okami
9. Final Fantasy XII
10. Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy
11. Silent Hill 2
12. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
13. ICO
14. Viewtiful Joe
15. Klonoa 2
16. Gradius V
17. Odin Sphere
18. Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
19. SSX 3
20. TimeSplitters 3


* Played the XBOX version
* Played the GC version

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As for the picture, I don't think it's letterboxed in NTSC, though I could check that. I don't know if it skips frames, though, and are the individual releases actually different there?

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It could even have been a case of the PAL version of Metal Slug Anthology not having a 60 hz option or something stupid like that (it's been a long time), but it defo didn't feel right compared to the standalone versions. I got rid of it pretty much straight away because of this.

I keep hearing people from US region saying the PS2 Anthology is good so maybe that was the case...

EDIT: From the Metal Slug wiki: 'The Metal Slug Anthology received positive reviews but was criticized for its lack of Classic Controller support on the Wii version[7] and sluggish, "laggy" controls on the PAL PlayStation 2 version, which had a noticeable delay when entering button presses'. So there is that.

Regarding your opinion on the PS2's infamous jaggies, to be honest that only seemed to be a notable issue early on in the machine's lifespan. The image quality in later software, although still not as smooth as GC and XBOX, was much improved. Basically it didn't remain such a huge issue that would have made me consider switching platforms for or anything.

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GTA SA; I had to pick one, it was a close call between this and Vice City.

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The ability to swim puts San Andreas above the other games for me.

I'm surprised there's been no mention of Beyond Good & Evil, it nearly made my top ten, and I remember it got some good reviews at the time.

I wasn't the biggest fan of the PS2 when it came out (quite surprising considering I loved the PS1) I think it was down to the fact that I was heavily in to PC gaming back then and I had pretty much lost interest in consoles, however my wife bought me one on sale Christmas 2006 and since then I have amassed a lot of PS2 games and it really is true that the PS2 has something for everyone. Yeah the graphics on some of early games weren't that great (looking at you Ridge Racer 5, among others) but over the 10 years or so that it was active developers really unlocked the potential of the system and they managed to get the system to shine. Have to say I prefer the look of the slim to the fat PS2, when it came out I wasn't really a fan of the fat PS2, it was quite a jarring change in design from the clean console looks of the PS1.

Anyway here are a list of some of my favorites, in no particular order.


God of War and God of War II - Absolutely loved both of these games, awesome graphics and great beat-em-up action, wasn't a huge fan of the QTE sections but luckily there wasn't so many that it ruined the game.

Wipeout Pulse - Europe only as far as I know but I play it through an emulator (since I have a NTSC PS2) and it plays a lot better than Wipeout Fusion imo.

Devil May Cry - This game was great fun, the controls work great and the game played very well.

BurnOut Revenge - The first game I played on my PS2 and the racing action is awesome, I find all the BurnOut games to be excellent games but I only have this one on PS2 (currently playing through BurnOut 3 on the Xbox)

Speed Racer The Game - Yeah i know its a movie tie-in but fans of Wipeout and F-Zero should really check this game out, a crazy combination of car racing and beat-em-up (maybe not ;) ) excellent graphics and sensation of speed.

WRC: World Rally Championship - Excellent Rally game, very nice graphics considering it was probably an early PS2 game (2001), great handling and playability.

Ratchet & Clank : Going Commando - One of the few 3D platform type games that I've actually enjoyed, along with Jak and Daxter, excellent graphics and fun shooting action.

Jak and Daxter: Great 3D platform game, I must go back to playing this since I've not finished it yet.

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You know what they say about "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"? Sure it outdoes the N64 by a lot, of course, but compared to the other consoles of its generation, the biggest problem with the PS2, in terms of graphics, is its terrible, super-jaggy image quality problems. The PS2 can put a lot of polygons on screen, as many as the GC or Xbox, and can do the most particle effects of any system that generation I believe, and such... but with hideously bad image quality for the time, it's often hard to see any of that behind the ugly picture. That kind of thing is excusable in a 5th-gen console, but none of the other 6th-gen systems have issues like the PS2 does! The DC may only be able to do like 1/8th the number of polygons as the PS2, but at least they look sharp and clear, while on PS2 that is uncommon. You get used to it after a while, but if you go back and forth between the PS2 and other 6th-gen or newer systems, it's noticeable.

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Ya know, it really is quite amusing and ironic that you should say that since you're the one that always is bashing the PS1 and PS2 for having image quality problems, yet you rabidly defend the N64 which has some of the most blurry and washed out graphics ever. The main reason I posted that was because you could of acted like a grown up and simply stated that the PS2 isn't a favorite of yours but that it has a lot of great games, then listed your favorites and left it at that. BUT OH NO you couldn't do that, you had to childishly bash and shitpost by calling the PS2 the "one of worst consoles ever" and "certainly be the system I dislike the most".

Fact is, I doubt anyone gives a crap about what you think of the PS2, considering your childish and pathetic hatred of Sony I know I wasn't expecting you to actually like the system, so it surprises no-one that you don't like it. So instead you took a big stinky shit on the thread like you do with any thread dealing with the PS1 or PS2. Like Overdrone pointed out, the PS2 jaggy graphics issue was only really in the earlier games, they mostly had the issue solved after that, but you have to keep harping on about it in every thread. :roll: