Nintendo Switch (Official Thread)

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Originally Posted by JCU

You are full of excuses. History shows us the French cowards surrendered while others endured thanks to many different attributes. The Russians fought. The Brits fought. The French? I'm surprised the fetal position wasn't named after them.

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no I'm full of facts and arguments. you give none. all you say are french are cowards, blabla. the russians didn't fight. it was either get shot by the germans or get shot by your commander. and the uk was never even invaded (because they were an island hard to land on) so they didn't fight either.

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Originally Posted by Thief

Ok, turns out that first video didn't prove my point, but this one does.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NhoiGxl6bnE

So when its docked, it runs at 900p vs 720p of portable and wiiu. Also in portable mode the frame rate is at its best. But even docked the fps is better on switch. The biggest example is this one village where basically the switch hangs on to 30fps, while wiiu basically always at 20fps.

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the fps improvements are negligible. seriously all they have is that part in kokaruto village, who cares about some slowdown in a village. it's like saying the xbox version of shenmue 2 is better because it has less fps problems in non-action scenes. simply bullshit

The game plays and looks fantastically on both versions. There is no need to lean one way or the other.

Stalin was poisoned, just sayin'.

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Originally Posted by QuickSciFi

Nope.




1. There are many articles already out stating otherwise. None of which I care to read, either, on a game I'm going to play regardless. But that's just me.

2. There are zero issues with frame rate on my Wii U. And I'm over 60 hours in.


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Sounds like you're just looking for an excuse. No, not biased at all.

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Dude, just watch that video of him running around that one town (kakariko village) where the WiiU runs at capped 20fps next to a docked Switch capped 30fps.

And this is Digital Foundry, not some other website. Since when does Digital Foundry have a credibility issue on this site of all places? That and there's video proof of this side by side comparison. Here's the link again since my tablet messed up my link last time (back on PC now). Kakariko Village frame rate test starts at 1:13 and ends at 2:13 if you want to avoid seeing anything else;

https://youtu.be/NhoiGxl6bnE

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Originally Posted by bultje112

no I'm full of facts and arguments. you give none. all you say are french are cowards, blabla. the russians didn't fight. it was either get shot by the germans or get shot by your commander. and the uk was never even invaded (because they were an island hard to land on) so they didn't fight either.

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The French quit. The Commies did not. The Brits did not either. Period. Case closed. Do you recall the armistice train and such significance it held? Clearly you hold quitters in high esteem.

Is there any better way to go out than laying in a pool of your own piss? What would Joseph say?


Back to the Switch, I was disappointed MK8 didn't have the MK Channel seen on the Wii. I don't even recall if MK8 had those trials for certain tracks and such where you'd compare your time with others.

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Originally Posted by QuickSciFi

The game plays and looks fantastically on both versions. There is no need to lean one way or the other.

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Well if you're playing on a 1080p TV, there is a noticeable difference between 720p games and 900p/1080p games. Here's a picture to remind you all how much of a difference;

https://fthmb.tqn.com/FQrvzz1wpySFNG...974a21db67.jpg

The Switch is hardly a true 1080p console. It's running a GPU meant for a smart pad.

Yeah, well that dumb pad GPU is still outperforming the WiiU in visual clarity and frame rate.

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Originally Posted by bultje112

the russians had a massive population whose lives were deemed worthless by it's autocratic leader. do you honestly think the uk would've send 30 million of it's men(it didn't even have that many men) in the front-line with only 1 rifle per 10 soldiers? the only reason the russians beat the germans was because of the russian winter and sheer numbers of russian 'soldiers'.

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Clearly you're an idiot and this point will be lost on you, but for the accuracy of the thread this has to be mentioned. The Russians fought like hell because the Germans were hell-bent on annihilating them. If you didn't pull your weight in that situation, you deserved to be shot. Even the women were at work, defusing bombs and things.

The Germans were more vicious there than anywhere. My great grandfather went all the way from Moscow to Berlin in a tank and lived.

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Originally Posted by Thief

Yeah, well that dumb pad GPU is still outperforming the WiiU in visual clarity and frame rate.

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I've seen that Digital Foundry video. It also pointed out times where there were strange dips in performance on the Switch that didn't happen on the Wii U.

The Switch version runs at 900p.

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/2...ath-wild-1080p

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Originally Posted by Thief

Well if you're playing on a 1080p TV, there is a noticeable difference between 720p games and 900p/1080p games. Here's a picture to remind you all how much of a difference;

https://fthmb.tqn.com/FQrvzz1wpySFNG...974a21db67.jpg

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It means at 720 I can read the on screen text.

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Originally Posted by gamevet

I've seen that Digital Foundry video. It also pointed out times where there were strange dips in performance on the Switch that didn't happen on the Wii U.

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The likely culprit is the Switch set to auto search for wifi connection, and that happening periodically while playing.

You guys are impossible. Excuse while I go talk to a brick wall instead.

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Originally Posted by Gentlegamer

The likely culprit is the Switch set to auto search for wifi connection, and that happening periodically while playing.

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Yeah, I read about that.

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Originally Posted by Thief

You guys are impossible. Excuse while I go talk to a brick wall instead.

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Says the guy with no job.

There's absolutely no reason for QuickSiFi to spend $300 on a Switch, just so he can get a few extra fps in select areas that favor one console over the other.

My money was better spent on a $500 PC graphics card, which will get a hell of a lot more use than any of the current consoles.

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Originally Posted by Blades

Clearly you're an idiot and this point will be lost on you, but for the accuracy of the thread this has to be mentioned. The Russians fought like hell because the Germans were hell-bent on annihilating them. If you didn't pull your weight in that situation, you deserved to be shot. Even the women were at work, defusing bombs and things.

The Germans were more vicious there than anywhere. My great grandfather went all the way from Moscow to Berlin in a tank and lived.

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you can call me an idiot all you want but having studied history and geography and being a degreed teacher I know I'm right here. the germans weren't out to annihilate all the russians at all. how do you see that happening murdering 200 million people? lol. not even stalin could do that and by god did he try. also during german occupation, russians weren't sent to camps or sentenced to death for being russian, like jews, handicapped and gays were.

and don't come with the "oh my grandfather this and that" blabla. big stories that I don't believe a shit from. if I have to believe all the 'grandfather' stories of ww2 history would be a complete lie. the germans were masters in keeping records of all the stuff they did and murdering all the russians, or even planning that, wasn't one of them.

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Originally Posted by Thief

You guys are impossible. Excuse while I go talk to a brick wall instead.

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how is zelda on your switch?

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Originally Posted by bultje112

you can call me an idiot all you want but having studied history and geography and being a degreed teacher I know I'm right here. the germans weren't out to annihilate all the russians at all. how do you see that happening murdering 200 million people? lol. not even stalin could do that and by god did he try. also during german occupation, russians weren't sent to camps or sentenced to death for being russian, like jews, handicapped and gays were.

and don't come with the "oh my grandfather this and that" blabla. big stories that I don't believe a shit from. if I have to believe all the 'grandfather' stories of ww2 history would be a complete lie. the germans were masters in keeping records of all the stuff they did and murdering all the russians, or even planning that, wasn't one of them.

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Now you're just being an aggressive dickhead. I thought Europeans controlled their emotions better.

To Thief, there's not much justification to get a Switch yet. Unless you really, really need one, I would wait until November and December when some of the heavy hitters come out or have been out for a while. I'd rather get a PS4 and/or Xbox One at this time.

if you call that aggressive you have no idea what aggression is.

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Originally Posted by bultje112

if you call that aggressive you have no idea what aggression is.

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Actually, I do have an idea of what aggression is. You just choose to put your fingers in your ears when others speak their thoughts.

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Originally Posted by gamevet

Says the guy with no job.

There's absolutely no reason for QuickSiFi to spend $300 on a Switch, just so he can get a few extra fps in select areas that favor one console over the other.

My money was better spent on a $500 PC graphics card, which will get a hell of a lot more use than any of the current consoles.

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I'm not talking about spending $300 on the Switch just to get the Switch version of Zelda. I'm just talking about Switch Zelda having better graphics and frame rate, thus being the superior version. And thus important to keep in mind instead of turning a blind eye to it like everyone here is stubbornly doing.

And you would think having no job would make me cheaper. After all, I did bail out on the PS4 Pro for just regular PS4. But I don't have a 4K TV to warrant the double price price tag for maybe a 10% better frame rate if dev's even choose to give out that option in their games in the first place anyway. But I bet many of us gamers have a 1080p TV. And on an 1080p HDTV the difference between 720 and 1080p is quite noticeable (and yes, I know Switch Zelda is 900p, I already mentioned that long time ago).

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Originally Posted by bultje112

how is zelda on your switch?

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Get to the point.

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Originally Posted by Thief

I'm not talking about spending $300 on the Switch just to get the Switch version of Zelda. I'm just talking about Switch Zelda having better graphics and frame rate, thus being the superior version. And thus important to keep in mind instead of turning a blind eye to it like everyone here is stubbornly doing.

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Dude, wtf are you talking about? Where do you get off with your empty ass statements? Shut the fuck up and play Breath of the Wild, then return to us with an actual opinion of your own instead of trying to pass down this "fountain" of knowledge you so eagerly can't wait to share the minute you read the title of like you do everything else.

Allow me to repost what your blind eyes did not obviously see. I got both goddamn versions of the game:

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Originally Posted by QuickSciFi

Just got me these:
http://i.imgur.com/xN8kUoU.jpg
I will hold off until the fall when the bundles start popping up to get a Switch. Right now, I just wanted to make sure I locked on the special edition version b4 it runs out. For now, I'm only stoked about Breath of the Wild on the Switch, and I already plan to play it first on thr Wii U. So I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything by not getting a Switch at launch.

Right now, though, I shall get back to Horizon: Zero Dawn. :D

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I don't care if you have both versions. I just can't believe you still refuse to acknowledge the Switch version noticeably better.

And what is wrong with the knowledge of talking about differences between versions of games? I thought this was the site for it considering, oh I don't know, only all the threads on it on this forum about it.

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Originally Posted by Thief

I don't care if you have both versions. I just can't believe you still refuse to acknowledge the Switch version noticeably better.

And what is wrong with the knowledge of talking about differences between versions of games? I thought this was the site for it considering, oh I don't know, only all the threads on it on this forum about it.

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It's not so superior that you would notice a difference between the two when playing them by themselves. This isn't like Mass Effect 3 PC compared to Mass Effect 3 PS3 levels of difference.

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Originally Posted by JCU

The amount of Wii U owners can almost be counted on one hand. Of course that is hyperbole and although the Wii U version has roughly a 50% attach rate with this title, that leaves many others who didn't purchase the game. People will buy this game as if it is brand new and it is releasing at a suitable time. The Switch is still VHTF and as long as Nintendo can weigh this demand properly along with something "new" when people actually find the console, sales will result. Pick the console up next month and you have two genuinely top notch games. Nintendo does not need a masterpiece first party game every month in order to make good with the Switch. What we have been told is the potential for a good schedule until the summer and the time frame after is surly to be addressed at E3. The eShop has the testfire ready for download and ready to play next weekend which tells me the sequel is visible on the horizon.

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Those that didn't purchase it on Wii U, most likely won't for the Switch, unless they are just desperate for something to tide them over until something else comes along. A lot of reviewers called this a pre-mature launch, because the bulk of the software won't be out until this fall, with a long drought in between. I don't think even the Saturn's early May 1995 launch had that long of a dry spell, or such a small selection.

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Originally Posted by gamevet

It's not so superior that you would notice a difference between the two when playing them by themselves. This isn't like Mass Effect 3 PC compared to Mass Effect 3 PS3 levels of difference.

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But still noticeable.

Nothing to see here.... :)

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Originally Posted by Thief

I don't care if you have both versions. I just can't believe you still refuse to acknowledge the Switch version noticeably better.

And what is wrong with the knowledge of talking about differences between versions of games? I thought this was the site for it considering, oh I don't know, only all the threads on it on this forum about it.

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Nobody said otherwise, dude. Again, wtf are you on about? You're just throwing all these second hand facts like you always do just to get some attention. Meanwhile, you haven't even started playing either version of the game. Again, stfu and play the fucking game instead of nitpicking at it from the outside like a 90s schoolyard console wars fanboy.

double post

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Originally Posted by Lan Di

Let the professoinals decide.....

https://youtu.be/9yFON2UON3k

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Late to the party, I see. I already posted that video, and the followup video where fans requested they test what they thought was one of the big trouble spots. Kakariko Village.

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Originally Posted by QuickSciFi

Nobody said otherwise, dude. Again, wtf are you on about? You're just throwing all these second hand facts like you always do just to get some attention. Meanwhile, you haven't even started playing either version of the game. Again, stfu and play the fucking game instead of nitpicking at it from the outside like a 90s schoolyard console wars fanboy.

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What are you talking about. You're the one who turned me down when I talked about frame rates & posted links, saying you heard otherwise from other sites and that my site wasn't credible. Then when I brought up resolution, again you brush it off like it's nothing.

You haven't played both version either, so what's you're point?

"Stfu and play the game instead of nitpicking at it." Is this going to be your rebuttal for everything? Then why even bother with video game forums if you can't discuss video games.

And I'm just doing this because I want attention. Seriously, don't go there. Games across multi-plaforms and how they fair is a great passion of mine. Already stated so many times around these parts. And I always try to play the best version first if possible. Like when I bought the PS3 version of Skyrim, where later in the same day I decided to check out how my version fared against 360, you bet I went out the very next day and bought and played the 360 version from there on instead. And I haven't regretted it since.

We are all here because we share the same passion, dude. The problem with you is that you actively seek-out this constant need to enter into a deep-rooted fanboy war that didn't even exist in the first place. And you always manage to come across with a misplaced sense of entitlement. Nobody asked you which version of the game was better. Everyone here has the same access to google and youtube as you do. You feel that, based on your second hand "knowledge", the Switch version is better. You've already made your point many many pages ago. Make your own fucking decision and play whatever fucking version you want. Let everyone else here play whichever fucking version they want. And, in my case, both motherfucking versions.

The problem with your BS Thief is that there are other parts of the game where the Switch version bogs down, while it doesn't on the Wii U. The differences between the two versions is not that massive, especially when you're now trying to throw in the horribly optimized PS3 version of Skyrim (which got several patches and saw a substantial increase in performance) to the 360 version that was the lead platform. His enjoyment of the game isn't going to be diminished by some stupid slight advantage one version has over the other.

And, on the subject of playing the actual game, I can attest that the Wii U GamePad is far superior to the Wii U pro controller when playing the game. It actually makes you feel like you're actually holding the Sheikah slate when using motion aided controls (which was the intended purpose of the game in the first place when they were making it first for the Wii U). In this fashion, it is very much optimized on the Wii U. You don't get the same feel when you're playing it on the Switch. When docked, the Switch is no longer your slate. When in handheld form, the aided aiming motion controls are sill good, but you can't swing and twist your tablet upside down, sideways and what have you to make the best out of several of the shrine puzzles. Gameplay wise? I prefer the Wii U version via the Wii U GamePad.

Uh... Sir Thief McDweeb... May I have this opinion, sir? :?

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Originally Posted by QuickSciFi

We are all here because we share the same passion, dude. The problem with you is that you actively seek-out this constant need to enter into a deep-rooted fanboy war that didn't even exist in the first place. And you always manage to come across with a misplaced sense of entitlement. Nobody asked you which version of the game was better. Everyone here has the same access to google and youtube as you do. You feel that, based on your second hand "knowledge", the Switch version is better. You've already made your point many many pages ago. Make your own fucking decision and play whatever fucking version you want. Let everyone else here play whichever fucking version they want. And, in my case, both motherfucking versions.

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If I'm interested in hearing which version is better on this forum, you can bet others are too. And with which version they want, sure, but what's wrong with being more educated on the products we buy instead of blindly believing everything is fine?

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Originally Posted by QuickSciFi

And, on the subject of playing the actual game, I can attest that the Wii U GamePad is far superior to the Wii U pro controller when playing the game. It actually makes you feel like you're actually holding the Sheikah slate when using motion aided controls (which was the intended purpose of the game in the first place when they were making it first for the Wii U). In this fashion, it is very much optimized on the Wii U. You don't get the same feel when you're playing it on the Switch. When docked, the Switch is no longer your slate. When in handheld form, the aided aiming motion controls are sill good, but you can't swing and twist your tablet upside down, sideways and what have you to make the best out of several of the shrine puzzles. Gameplay wise? I prefer the Wii U version via the Wii U GamePad.

Uh... Sir Thief McDweeb... May I have this opinion, sir? :?

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I didn't call you childhood playground names. Yet you're the one insisting I'm the one arguing like a kid in a school playground.

^Really? That's where you get on your high horse? Don't make me laugh.

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Originally Posted by Thief

If I'm interested in hearing which version is better on this forum, you can bet others are too. And with which version they want, sure, but what's wrong with being more educated on the products we buy instead of blindly believing everything is fine?

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...Ugh.... :?

I just give up.

http://memedad.com/memes/30146.jpg

Yeah, that Sean Bean image sums up my exact reaction. It's also the only thing I understood in that post.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d7...oneRanger3.jpg

Nobody cares, Thief. I think SciFi is acting like a prick, but your argument is over something that really doesn't matter.

Was it like this when people talked about Twilight Princess on the GameCube and Wii?