I never heard of that happening when it was still fully supported... so not sure.
I know I've seen more than my share of bitching about it, but I had never even heard it was a thing until well into the wii era.
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I never heard of that happening when it was still fully supported... so not sure.
I know I've seen more than my share of bitching about it, but I had never even heard it was a thing until well into the wii era.
I don't remember that issue either; but then again, I came in late into the era.
I do remember the vast majority of die-hard SNES fans relinquish their N64 controllers for the PS1 at the time, though.
Remember when Thinkpads had a metal subframe?Quote:
Originally Posted by QuickSciFi
That was a long time ago. The only company still building metal computers is Apple with their dated aluminum unibodies, but those went to hell in 2012 anyway when they decided to solder everything including RAM and SSDs to the logic board. Before that, their computers were the ultimate option if you had the money: thin, tough, OS X, and user-serviceable.
^Lol. I actually just recently bought myself a replacement laptop and went with Lenovo. But based on my track record of melting laptops (always culminating in broken hinges), I went with the cheapest I could fathom to be functional: $250.
It's probably faster in every way than my 2010 MacBook Pro that cost more than a K.
Apple has always been low to mid range components with a coat of high gloss finish and a premium price tag. Very, very few of their systems have ever truly been able to justify the price beyond, "lol, people pay it".Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
But that's besides the point. Even a metal frame may not save some things. If the battery winds up expanding it's going to crack right through whatever the weakest component is. Maybe that's a cover, maybe it's part of the casing.
Likewise if the heat is warping something, that could still happen internally, or just have the repeated heating/cooling stress break something lose (just like the RROD on the 360).
This external warping might be all there is to it, or it could actually be one of the more benign consequences of whatever is causing the warping. I'm sure there will be a breakdown showing exactly what is going on by someone before too long.
I don't think that's accurate because you didn't mention OS X. Also, the components used to be upgradeable.Quote:
Originally Posted by EclecticGroove
Also, at least back when I was shopping around, it wasn't possible to get a high quality 13" LED display except from Apple.
I didn't mention OSX because OS dick waggling is waaay off topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
And the key there is "used to be". And that was a quite some time ago.
But laptops are a different beast, and closer to the subject of the Switch. With a very few exceptions, the only things you can ever upgrade on them is RAM and HDD. Everything else is built in... and Apple generally doesn't use amazingly high end components for the internals.
They did get the whole "retina" screen fad going at first however. So at least they had something going for them briefly, everyone else was content to spit out the same 1080p displayes for damn near forever.
But that's still wayyy off topic.
They used to have little things that just didn't happen on the PC side. A power connector that doesn't destroy your motherboard if you trip on it. Great notebook displays. All that is gone or has been equaled/exceeded by Wintel.Quote:
Originally Posted by EclecticGroove
What you say wasn't true, but I'm afraid now it is. The only thing I miss in Windows now are the trackpad gestures and OS X fluidity.
Isn't this thread Mac vs PC?
Back on topic, I don't think this actually matters. The games are what matters. I don't care if my video game console warps into a donut as long as it plays the games I want.
I think it matters very much seeing as how it's not just a brick that sits there. It's a portable as well... The amount shown thus far isn't unusable, but we don't know how far the thing will eventually warp. Is that the max it will, or will it warp more?
Will it eventually break something, is the amount it's warping for some people already making other issues more likely in the future?
I'm just waiting to see someone do a teardown on a warping one to see what's going on inside.
^that would be a good one to see.
Lol. Nah, u can tell it's a $250 laptop ;). But it does everything I want it to do. I'm loving it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
Honestly, lets take all of these claims with a grain of salt. I don't find it out of the realm of possibility that perhaps owners of the Switch inadvertently (and maybe purposely) contributed to or even caused some of these "defects."
Anyone here who bought the Switch? If you've played Zelda it's safe to assume you've already invested several hours on your Switch. Your imput on this matter will be greatly appreciated.
My switch is in the same condition as it left the box. Maybe I am just lucky not having dead pixels, scratched screen, bent console, etc.., Whew! I must have gotten a unicorn. Who is to say some of these people did not having their console on or around a heat source such as a plasma television, heater, etc..,
Thanks JCU. I may ask again around the Holidays if you don't mind.
And that's why when I linked to the original reddit I included all the caveats.Quote:
Originally Posted by JCU
Disturbing if true... but until it's a bit more widespread with some more info behind it... it's still possible it is just some people looking to get some attention.
JCU is still just one guy though ;)
Here's to hoping more folks here will be willing provide their feedback like he did, though. I think IrishNinja got one, too. I may hit him up.
My mate bought a Switch and has probably got up to 150 hours right now, mostly plays in docked mode. No issues.
hey man! ive put like 90 hours into zelda & a few into Bomberman, Blaster Master Neo & Spectre Knight, also taken it out with me a number of times...it's not on me now, but when i get back tonight ill check. I took the precaution of padding the dock a bit so the screen wouldn't scratch, but what exactly am i looking for, just to see if the system's warped any?Quote:
Originally Posted by QuickSciFi
^Hey man, thanks. Yeah, that's pretty much it broham. Just place it against a flat surface and see if it rocks. That should do it.
Left analog stick desyncing and the outer case warping? Glad I didn't jump on the hypity hype bandwagon!
^yeah, id hold off before acting like this is a widespread thing
reporting back - nah, it's even/flat as a board! wish my dualshock 4 sticks were holding up as well, but they've got some years on em....Quote:
Originally Posted by QuickSciFi
mind you, again, i had 2 3DS's with slight screen scratches from how they close so i don't put these things past nintendo, but this is literally the first i'm hearing of this one
^that's good to hear, man. Thanks.
I wonder if there's some sort of cooling table or jacket that you could cobble up to use? Maybe a freezer gel pack or something? I hate stuff like this, it sucks when you have something new that has a fatal flaw, I hope you get it sorted.
We all know that the Switch +, or S, or 2 or C (for cool?) will solve this issue for the future buyers, but surely this should have been tested so the first on the train weren't affected..?
Everything's in beta nowadays.
We're living in the age of guinea pigs, alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by cleeg
When I was a little kid, I had a record/book from "The Empire Strikes Back." What it specifically offered was a condensed version of the movie (on audio) for children. I think I bought it when our grade had a book sale. One day in the summer I left it in a hot car in that area behind the rear seats right behind your head. It melted.
Why I am hesitant to believe many things is thanks in part to the actions of people who contribute to certain issues but act to the contrary. Yes, I am one individual who has not experienced any dilemma with my Switch but I do take care of things.
^ My mate said that Xbox 360's only red ring because people don't look after them.
Then his red ringed. HA.
had this exact thing happen to a buddy of mine too....i can't laugh too hard, my first 360 did & so did my launch PS3, i swear Last of Us killed that poor thing hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Gogogadget
Who's to say keeping the 360 in an enclosed space didn't contribute to premature failure? Certainly many people kept their console(s) in an entertainment center w/o proper ventilation because at the time who knew it was like a warm blooded animal. Of course that doesn't mean the 360 wasn't made with design flaws (MS clearly knew about such issues) but not keeping it in a cool and well ventilated area didn't help and, IMO, brought on problems in a pre mature fashion.
I had one of those too. I think it may have been all 3 movies. I ended up selling them. So much SW memorabilia gone down the eBays. Every now and then I am reminded like this. Now I'm sad.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by JCU
As for your point, yeah, I agree it could be a case of poor care. But after so many laptops getting melted in the past for me (and I'm talking within a couple of weeks and after taking amazing care of them), I'm of the camp that this is more of an issue with the Switch getting melted out of sheer use. I do understand what you're saying, though. Things that are under your control and care befall your responsibility at the end of the day.
Sounds like the people that wonder why I hate Seagates. Never mind most failed Hard Drives that I've seen are Seagates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogogadget
All I can think to them is "It's only a matter of time before their HDD dies".
it isn't out of the realm of possibility that a tablet's shape could change due to heat and the pressure to the ends when the joycons are attached. in dock mode, i guess it's possible the tablet itself is kind of warping itself to the structure of dock but i really aint sure. my friend said she is having this issue and i saw it the other say, i couldn't really see any bend. she swore up and down had in fact ,bent itself.
Yeah i've had bad experiences with Seagate HDDs, all 3 of mine are Western Digital now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flygon
I keep mine in my entertainment centre as I do with all consoles I own, my Elite is fine but my old one red ringed after I sold it, although it lasted a good 5 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by JCU
You guys are killing me, lol. I actually upgraded my PS4 internal HDD and Xbox One via an external HDD with two 2TB 2.5" Seagate HDDs. I went the Seagate route after many positive reviews. No issues so far. But you guys probably know way more than me about this. Here's to hoping I don't run into these problems.
Sorry, but Seagates are trash. Nevermind the overwhelming evidence...Quote:
Originally Posted by QuickSciFi
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All 4 of my STs have failed. The only reason I have them is because they came as OEM drives so I knew they were trash. The only other hard drive that failed for me was a 2003 Hitachi Travelstar 40GB after 7 hard years in a laptop. Every other hard drive, including a 1999 MIJ Quantum Fireball and a 1994 IBM SCSI 125MB, are still alive.
I have never had a WD drive fail, even an old 2GB Caviar on its last legs still managed to get all its data off.
hahaha. stuff like that happening is the best. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Gogogadget
Lol. Damn. I guess I will report to you guys here or in the Sony or Xbox One threads if/when they fail me. I'm mostly worried about the PS4, since it's internal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
You guys seem to be a lot more knowledgeable about HDDs than me for sure. I hope than in a couple of years they come up with larger 2.5" drives.
P.S.> BTW, mine is a 2TB HDD. Didn't show in that graph, lol.
Wait, PS4's internal HDD is Seagate? Well that's just swell. The PS4 bad news train just keeps coming.
What about the PS4 Pro & Slim? And both X-Bones have them too? Any news on Scorpio's HDD? Looks like next time my buddy is in the area over to overhaul my pc, I should also look into replacing PS4 HDD. Thanks for the heads up on these failure drives.
Rest assured, I've had my PS4 for 2 years now and no issues whatsoever. The 500GB (factory PS4 drive) with which I upgraded my PS3, and my 2TB new 2.5" internal drive with which I upgraded my PS4 have had zero issues. Also, note that that graph study does not include either of the models I've just mentioned.
Well I've got the fat PS4 now and pretty sure it's 500GB as you said.