The collecting community are vultures

I don't see why people find it so hard to understand that a hobby like this, which is currently increasing in popularity means games cost more. Ever hear of Supply & Demand?

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Originally Posted by needler420

America is suppose to be the land of opportunity where man can own land. Property literally is a real life version of monopoly. People do monopolize land and property.

Hell a few years back when land was cheaper I almost bought empty lots around my house for nothing but to flip and prevent neighbors moving in.

As human population increases and natural resources get used land does go out of circulation.

Golden age comic books didn't get to where they are simply by age but because many were recycled for the war and many thrown away taken out of circulation.

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Well said.

I'm just waiting for everyone to lose interest so I can finish getting the games that I want without having to pay crazy amounts.

ya'll really gonna make this about houses now huh

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Originally Posted by IrishNinja

ya'll really gonna make this about houses now huh

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But he made a good point.

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Originally Posted by Gogogadget

I don't see why people find it so hard to understand that a hobby like this, which is currently increasing in popularity means games cost more. Ever hear of Supply & Demand?

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Supply and demand has been manipulated for years. Many resellers brag about it and others can't hide it.

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Originally Posted by robotscandance

I'm just waiting for everyone to lose interest so I can finish getting the games that I want without having to pay crazy amounts.

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We may be waiting a long, long time for that. It shows no signs of slowing down anytime soon.

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Originally Posted by robotscandance

I'm just waiting for everyone to lose interest so I can finish getting the games that I want without having to pay crazy amounts.

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Here's the issue. Our Generation (people born 1975-1990) loved and still play these games. The younger generation thinks it's very cool as well and are into it. You have two generations competing for the same Genre. I had a 12 year old meet me and buy a Turbo Grafx 16 with his father and he said he just got a Neo Geo AES. We're doomed.

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Originally Posted by evilevoix

Here's the issue. Our Generation (people born 1975-1990) loved and still play these games. The younger generation thinks it's very cool as well and are into it. You have two generations competing for the same Genre. I had a 12 year old meet me and buy a Turbo Grafx 16 with his father and he said he just got a Neo Geo AES. We're doomed.

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Damn.

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Originally Posted by IrishNinja

personally, i try not to judge - but there is a distinction in my mind between your coke example, or stamps etc and say games: games were meant to be played. it's a shame, on some existential level, when they're not...but from that perspective, rampant collecting/hoarding is only a piece of it - tons more people watch Let's Plays than actually play games, or discuss them all day rather than experience them. etc.

which, of course, is fine - it's your time, your property. but i do think it's a shame, and if i sold something of mine & had any say in it, it'd find it preferable that it go somewhere it'd be used.

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I accidentally walked into a car auction (mid-90s) that was being held at the Dallas World Trade Center. There was a 69 Camaro that had the original factory tires, original GM marked battery (I don't see how they kept that thing going) and only 6,000 miles on the odometer. The car was meant to be driven, yet, someone managed to only drive it enough to put a few miles on it every year for over 30 years. I'm pretty sure he got 5 or 6 times the amount of money he had paid for that car, when it was auctioned off, but you have to wonder just how wealthy the person was that had bought that car in 1969, that they could just leave it sitting in a garage without really driving it. The person that had bought that car, more than likely, really hasn't driven that car much at all as well. They probably have another classic car that they drive on the weekends, while their pristine 69 Camaro sits on display, never to be driven again.

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Originally Posted by Black_Tiger

Supply and demand has been manipulated for years.

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Manipulated? How so? If the price is too high and they don't sell it, they are forced to lower the price. If people buy it for the price being asked, then it's because there is demand. There's no manipulation involved.

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Originally Posted by evilevoix

Here's the issue. Our Generation (people born 1975-1990) loved and still play these games. The younger generation thinks it's very cool as well and are into it. You have two generations competing for the same Genre. I had a 12 year old meet me and buy a Turbo Grafx 16 with his father and he said he just got a Neo Geo AES. We're doomed.

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aw, see - if the kid plays those though, i think that's pretty cool

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Originally Posted by gamevet

I accidentally walked into a car auction (mid-90s) that was being held at the Dallas World Trade Center. There was a 69 Camaro that had the original factory tires, original GM marked battery (I don't see how they kept that thing going) and only 6,000 miles on the odometer. The car was meant to be driven, yet, someone managed to only drive it enough to put a few miles on it every year for over 30 years. I'm pretty sure he got 5 or 6 times the amount of money he had paid for that car, when it was auctioned off, but you have to wonder just how wealthy the person was that had bought that car in 1969, that they could just leave it sitting in a garage without really driving it. The person that had bought that car, more than likely, really hasn't driven that car much at all as well. They probably have another classic car that they drive on the weekends, while their pristine 69 Camaro sits on display, never to be driven again.

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goddamn
im not even a car guy, and that's a bummer

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Originally Posted by Alexrd

Manipulated? How so? If the price is too high and they don't sell it, they are forced to lower the price. If people buy it for the price being asked, then it's because there is demand. There's no manipulation involved.

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it's really not the simple, though
kind of a known thing that ebay resellers sometimes hoard copies of games & have alerts to quickly (if not auto) buy up any copies posted below their inflated prices, to keep a sense of scarcity/push what it goes for....and that's just one example.

on the surface, everyone keeps saying supply & demand, but there's other factors.

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Originally Posted by IrishNinja

it's really not the simple, though
kind of a known thing that ebay resellers sometimes hoard copies of games & have alerts to quickly (if not auto) buy up any copies posted below their inflated prices, to keep a sense of scarcity/push what it goes for....and that's just one example.

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The rules are the same. They can hoard as many copies as they want. If the price is too high that makes the demand low, they are forced to lower it.

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Originally Posted by Alexrd

Manipulated? How so? If the price is too high and they don't sell it, they are forced to lower the price. If people buy it for the price being asked, then it's because there is demand. There's no manipulation involved.

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There is a episode of pat the NES punk where someone buys the same game on eBay for over a year buying up all the supply and is able to manipulate the pricing and artificially create a demand.

http://youtu.be/MKHk5U8tmfw

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Originally Posted by needler420

There is a episode of pat the NES punk where someone buys the same game on eBay for over a year buying up all the supply and is able to manipulate the pricing and artificially create a demand.

http://youtu.be/MKHk5U8tmfw

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This is a legit business tactic BTW.