Newfangled Zelda is as Bad as Modern Sonic, you know...

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Originally Posted by azonicrider

Don't you guys know that Ocarina of Time is the best game ever made, it hasn't been surpassed by any game that will blew your mind 100x more, like GTA III, Skyrim, Metroid Prime, Witcher 3

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^ Souls series.

Journey and Ori & the Blind Forest both have the feeling of the old Zelda to me. Two amazing games that succeed in bringing back the mysterious fantasy setting that got lost over at Nintendo.

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Originally Posted by azonicrider

The GameCube controller is still the closest Nintendo has ever gotten to a proper controller. I can't even play N64 because I hate the controller so much.

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http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1500_.jpg

You should try this one. It controls like a beauty and is very comfortable.

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Originally Posted by BonusKun

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1500_.jpg

You should try this one. It controls like a beauty and is very comfortable.

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Analog sticks on it have very little resistance a la PS3/X-Bone and sticks are too long. The extra resistance shorter sticks in the PS4/360 is much preffered for precision aiming. ie. I have and played Mass Effect 3 multiplayer for all platforms and gamepads (save for the X-Bone gamepad), and it's much harder to aim for headshots with the WiiU ProController & PS3 analog sticks VS PS4 & 360. When I seen that the PS4 gamepad analog sticks were much better then the PS3, I bought it just so I can finally play PS3 games with a proper analog stick, despite not having a PS4 yet. And before I found the PS4 gamepad, I've tried several other PS3 gamepads with poor results, sadly. Because I was so desperate to be rid of that terrible PS3 gamepad (it does nothing right).

The right analog stick being above on the WiiU ProController is total BS too.


Course the analog stick precision does not matter as much when playing games like Demon/Dark Souls. It only matter way more when precision aiming is required. So if you can't aim regardless. You'll never notice the issue.

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Originally Posted by BonusKun

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1500_.jpg

You should try this one. It controls like a beauty and is very comfortable.

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I have it in my house. The problem is it doesn't have analog triggers. 1/4 of the games I play are racing games, so it'll never work out.

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Originally Posted by Thief

The right analog stick being above on the WiiU ProController is total BS too.

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Nowadays, I think the only reason they did that was to avoid any trademarks. Thats all I can think of. No one is ever gonna get used to the analog stick being there.

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Originally Posted by azonicrider

No one is ever gonna get used to the analog stick being there.

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I remember hearing that about the original Xbox controller, lol.

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Originally Posted by azonicrider

Nowadays, I think the only reason they did that was to avoid any trademarks. Thats all I can think of. No one is ever gonna get used to the analog stick being there.

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I thought it had more to do that the Tablet is configured that way too... you mean the regular Wii ProController was like that too?

I only enjoyed playing Link's Awakening. The rest of Zelda games bored me to tears.

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Originally Posted by miru

It is fine. I have a FACT to back me up.

Wind Waker sold poorly and killed the Gamecube. HD version did not have a large backlash, but that is because the Zelda fans gave up.

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The legend of Zelda series LTD worldwide (source: Nintendo)

http://i.imgur.com/qop7wAG.jpg

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Originally Posted by miru

This is not any franchise we're talking about: with something like Fatal Fury or Freedom Planet, 5 million is a hit. This is Zelda. STINKIN' ZELDA! Older Zelda games outsold WW by a vast margin up until Skyward Sword totaled the series.

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Sonic Rush sold really well for a Sonic game yet its LTD worldwide isn't anywhere close to 5 million units.

It's a sad reflection of modern gaming that Link's Crossbow Training sold 6 million copies. :/ The only motivation for companies to make quality games is to sell less than cheap gimmick titles. Pokemon Snap and Stadiums were probably also big sellers.

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Originally Posted by Black_Tiger

It's a sad reflection of modern gaming that Link's Crossbow Training sold 6 million copies. :/ The only motivation for companies to make quality games is to sell less than cheap gimmick titles. Pokemon Snap and Stadiums were probably also big sellers.

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It was a mini-game included with the Wii Zapper. Fans kind of expected to get some better use out of that attachment.

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Originally Posted by azonicrider

So you like linear shit with no replayabilty?

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heavens no, but if i wanted non-linear bullshit with even less replayability, i'd be a TES fan post Oblivion

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Originally Posted by Thief

The Souls games. Now those were and still are highly awesome and highly replayable Zelda games (I still binge hard on that entire series every few months). I keep telling my brother, the Zelda fanboy, to start that series already. As it's a great example of what more modern Zelda games could of been.

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ehh as a massive souls fan, i never get the analogy...people make it often, but if Souls is known for challenge, doesn't that pretty much only leave Zelda 2 on the table?

that dark aesthetic & risk/reward, i almost wish there were more Castlevania analogies.

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Originally Posted by Obviously

If it wasn't for that Ocean King temple or whatever it was called Phantom Hourglass would have been fine. It was a step down from Minish Cap though. I own Spirit Tracks but I've never gotten around to playing it.

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man, that killed my momentum - used a guide and still hated those sections. couldn't even finish ST after that.

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Originally Posted by NeoVamp

All I want is a cell shaded Zelda game based on the 80's toon.

http://i.imgur.com/86eKa4Y.jpg

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what's your CD-I situation like vamps

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Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster

I just want a new Landstalker game.

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see that i could get down with

Those sale numbers reflect very poorly on WW and SS - which is unsurprising because they are the two most underwhelming mainline Zelda titles. If I were to hazard a guess, the amount of money that went into development for the two titles probably didn't reflect very well on the profit margin. Contrast this with titles made cheaply (e.g. the GB/GBC titles or the original Zelda) that likely far exceeded their profit-margin goals. /armchair economist

On ST:
It's easy to make jokes about how ST 'railroads' you in terms of game progression, but -no joke- it is one of the most abysmally lackluster and boring Zelda games I've ever finished. PH was bland and not too great, but the even lousier overworld (or lack thereof) and lame dungeons couldn't even make me enjoy the cutesy Princess Ghost Zelda junk. I never finished SS but it at least exhibited some imagination and scope.

Who even needs Nintendo, anymore?

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Originally Posted by Black_Tiger

It's a sad reflection of modern gaming that Link's Crossbow Training sold 6 million copies. :/ The only motivation for companies to make quality games is to sell less than cheap gimmick titles. Pokemon Snap and Stadiums were probably also big sellers.

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Probably the majority of it to that one dude who bought a ton of em for some stupid fucking reason.