It has a 75Mhz Arm controller on the board. It doesn't look like something that will be inexpensive to produce.
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It has a 75Mhz Arm controller on the board. It doesn't look like something that will be inexpensive to produce.
I can tell some of you haven't watched the video. Despite some very technical chit chat beyond my head, it was still a good watch if some of you can find some spare time. ... Well, being a Saturn fan helps. :p
I can't imagine the price going much higher than an everdrive. And it's giving similar, if not more, functionality... so that is pretty much ok by my book.
I'd shell out for this instantly if it was in that price range. I have a modded Saturn, but being able to rip all my games to a single flash drive and play them this way would be awesome.
I hope so, because I pretty much only play the real discs using a North American Saturn with a Action Replay 4M+ for imports. I have a nice collection, but there's a ton of Japanese imports that I just can't afford. I'd buy this if the price was less than that of Radiant Silvergun.
Same here. I have a handful of burned games (all came in a lot with a few other games), but almost all of the games I play are originals. If this worked, and worked well. I'd likely grab a few ISO's for some of the games I don't have (mostly Japanese only) as well as rip all mine to play.
I'd love to see what the homebrew scene can do with this as well. Hopefully some awesome things, even if they were akin to romhacks of existing games.
So I never knew about the Sega Saturn music school it's another obscure title that I will get and try. As for the cart or drive I guess well I would love to grab one. I still have probably 2 super duper expensive Saturn games I would love to own Daytona Net-Link and Taromaru. I would assume this would bypass region BS. But what about the people that actually use VCDs though? I have been thinking about buying one of these things and checking out a game or a movie sometime.
Good question about the VCDs.
Once this is released, what would a practical solution consist of / how would it work?
Haven't had time to read all the comments in various threads.
I see Kotaku picked on the news:
http://kotaku.com/after-20-years-som...drm-1783480023Quote:
After 20 Years, Someone Cracked The Sega Saturn's DRM
Sega Saturn disc drives are beginning to die off. Until now, it meant your machine might be useless. Thanks to engineer James Laird-Wah, Sega’s 32-bit hardware has been cracked, allowing games to be loaded via USB.
Laird-Wah is known online as Dr Abrasive, and is responsible for a USB-powered ROM-reading cartridge for the Game Boy called the Drag ‘n Derp.
The news was revealed on the YouTube channel debuglive, which features an exhaustive interview with Laird-Wah, showcasing his multi-year process.
Laird-Wah started poking around the Saturn in 2013, attracted to the machine’s notoriously ambitious multi-channel sound chip. “Gee, it’d be nice to have one of those around,” he said. To take advantage of that chip, he wanted to write software for the Saturn.
What he found was that Saturn homebrew required a mod chip—which largely aren’t produced anymore—and burning CDs for the Saturn to read.
“We can probably do better,” he said.
Thus, he went down a rabbit hole requiring years of reverse engineering.
The reason it’s so notoriously hard to crack the Saturn is because of its hardware-based DRM, which required discs to have a physical mark—called a wobble—that was etched into the CD. Laird-Wah had to figure out a way for the Saturn to tell him out the disc drive worked, then come up with software that would allow him to emulate the disc drive over USB.
This isn’t something you can buy yet; Laird-Wah is working out the kinks. Still, it’s a promising move towards revitalizing the Saturn community and ensuring the native hardware can be used to play games for years to come.
How does one guy end up with so much tech skill and knowledge? I've known quite a few techy guys, and even though some of them are quite highly skilled, I don't think I know anyone that's capable of hacking the Saturn in this way. Does someone have to work in the industry to get this kind of knowledge, or is it more of an advantage to just be a hobbyist?
Also, how did the "Siega" pronunciation become so prevalent in some places? I'm not hating on anyone here, I just find it strange, given the intro to the early Sonic games.
This is amazing, were finally a step closer to Sega Saturn emulation.
VERY impressive. Great video too. Thanks for sharing!
That alone is impressive. 22 years of being uncracked. I mean yes playing pirates is fun, but we need to look at this. EVERY single console had their copy protection broken before it's production ended. The Saturn remained the nut left to ferment, untouched.
Just take the card out and replace it with the normal VCD card. Long term it would be awesome if this prompted more interest and someone could actually make a combo game interface + multimedia card to go in that slot. It would handle both functions (and more) on one card.
He didn't know how to do it initially. He learned it all as he went along. He had some of his own hardware and software knowledge, but then scoured online for all the info he could. The rest he went through trial and error to try and get, eventually building that little rig to insert the CD controller CPU onto and eventually manage to reconstruct what it was doing.
It took him a long time and a hell of a lot of work to do. Even if it was a lot of part time and off and on work, it's still impressive he stuck to it for so long and eventually succeeded. Even cooler that he's sharing the fruits of that work with others.
It wasn't that popular really at the time. And most who wanted to do stuff like that would just mod the system. Eventually the Saturn was more of a niche market so no one with the right skills was looking to find a better (or even just different) way than what modchips already did.
He's not the 1st to crack it. You can use a hacked Action Replay to play backups.
https://m.reddit.com/r/SegaSaturn/co...rts_on_saturn/