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I enjoy the environments and the feeling of isolation in Prime. Yeah, the backtracking can be a bit tedious, but the joy I get out of each of the areas makes up for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater
I've had a free copy of System Shock II on my PC for about 6 months. I think I remember you saying it wasn't quite as good as the first though?
I only played Metroid Prime quite awhile back up untill you encounter the pirates as regular enemies or something. Started out cool on that space station, but at the time I played this game, it didn't quite hold my interest or something. Been meaning for some time now to give it another chance. Didn't know the game ran @ 60fps, and this has me especially excited to return to it.
Exhumed, or Powerslave as I've always read it in gaming mags, I've been meaning to give a try one of these days too since just about every gaming mag back in the day had nothing but great things to say about it. That and I'm a big fan of the Saturn, so for sure I have to play on of the most respected and praised Saturn games one of these days. And I'm liking what I've been reading about this game on here so far.
I have a slight preference for the first one but the second one is awesome, one of my favourite games. They're different enough to make both worth playing. Shock2 is both more RPG and more survival horror than the first.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Someone on the BioWare forums who tried to get me into the BioShock games told me to try the System Shock games too. But to beware that they're really hard. So how hard are these games? Feel free to compare their difficulty to Exhumed and Metroid Prime too.
On default I would say the System Shock games are probably harder than the rest of those but there are are easier settings I never tried.
I played through Metroid Prime as soon as it came out. It's fair to call it a good game as far as 3D games go, but even while still fresh it was a great argument for 2D>3D gameplay, especially against trying to make an existing 2D game wirk in 3D for no good reason other than the sake of it and to milk the IP. That first Wii game dumbed it down so bad that I couldn't bring myself to finish it.
I didn't get to play Powerslave until long after Quake came out. I think that it wasn't released in Canada. It was more impressive than I expected and I'm not a real fan of FPS, but I didn't enjoy it enough to play multiple times like I did Duke 3D and Quake because of how much it was a platforming heavy "Metroidvania" in 3D.
We got all the same Saturn games as the US. Powerslave was available at EB but it was in limited quantities so it was off shelves quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Tiger
Yet, you posted a video (really bad quality) to show me just how good the game is. Other than it looking really good for a 32-bit console game, there's a lot there (shooting fish in a barrel) that doesn't interest me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Andromeda
And no, the Horus Feather is nothing like the grappling hook in Metroid, and there's nothing quite like exploring as the Morph Ball in Metroid.
Here's a much better video of Exhumed in this guy's thorough review of the game.
^ I love that guy's reviews.
The videos I linked are trying to show you stuff like the laser fields - which require near perfect movement to navigate and how its totally different to a game like doom (you can't even jump in Doom)Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Sorry, the Horus feather like the grappling hook always you to reach higher or new parts of the level that you couldn't otherwise it borrows those parts from Super Metroid . And I don't think Prime Morph Ball stages offer much exploration those parts tend to switch to the old 2d style and be very linear, you switch viewpoints and also get to drive vehicles in Halo but to many its a FPS.
Exhumed plays also exactly like Super Metroid in 3D . Given the GameCube was 2 gens ahead of the Saturn then yeah Sure Prime does more and offers more , but the likes of Exhumed was the 1st to mix not just adventure with FPS but also platforming. I always said for me Exhumed is the best FPS around and that to me its up there with Mario IV was level desgin perfection
You really like Mario IV level design that much.
I know you can't jump in Doom. I also pointed out Quake as well. I've played a ton of those Doom style games back then, and I always got bored after a couple of hours. Halo was the 1st fps that I actually played to the finish, because it had open areas to do battle in, and it had Banshees and Warthogs to ride around on; the enemy AI was also pretty decent for the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Andromeda
Tomb Raider does exactly what you're talking about.
Horus feather might as well be a magic carpet. It's nothing like the grappling beam where you try to discover places that you can attach it to.Quote:
Sorry, the Horus feather like the grappling hook always you to reach higher or new parts of the level that you couldn't otherwise it borrows those parts from Super Metroid . And I don't think Prime Morph Ball stages offer much exploration those parts tend to switch to the old 2d style and be very linear, you switch viewpoints and also get to drive vehicles in Halo but to many its a FPS.
The Morph Ball is so much more than what you are trying to give it credit for. You can use it to make a quick escape when an enemy has you cornered, drop a couple of bombs on your way out and then transform back into your suit form once you've given yourself ample space to battle on your feet again.
No, Metroid Prime plays exactly like Super Metroid in 3D. Exhumed may have Metroid like elements, but it also has stuff that borrows from Doom. Nothing about Metroid Prime resembles anything from Doom, except for the 1st person view, and that often changes to 3rd person when you have to often use the Morph Ball.Quote:
Exhumed plays also exactly like Super Metroid in 3D . Given the GameCube was 2 gens ahead of the Saturn then yeah Sure Prime does more and offers more , but the likes of Exhumed was the 1st to mix not just adventure with FPS but also platforming. I always said for me Exhumed is the best FPS around and that to me its up there with Mario IV was level desgin perfection
And, I'm not the person that tried to exclaim that a game from 2 previous generations (bit of a stretch) had more to offer than a game released over 6 years after it.
Yep .It's a masterpiece and the pinnacle of 2D Platforming (for me and imo)Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief
Sorry that's quite wrong. There's next to no back tracking to completed levels in TR and you don't need Power Up to open up new levels or new parts to earlier completed levels . This is what Exhumed brought to FPS and buidling on Super Metroid.Quote:
Tomb Raider does exactly what you're talking about.
You seem to miss the point . With out that power up you'll not be able to reach parts of the levels, in just the same with you need a grappling hook to reach new parts in Metroid.Quote:
Horus feather might as well be a magic carpet. It's nothing like the grappling beam where you try to discover places that you can attach it to
Exhumed is basically Super Metroid in 3D set in the past , the only think it borrows from Doom is the view point, Exhumed borrows far more from the likes of Super Metroid . Doom is quite a simple game and that's why a lot of people love it . Exhumed is not Doom clone.Quote:
Exhumed may have Metroid like elements, but it also has stuff that borrows from Doom
I'm curious if TA really thinks this about Exhumed/Powerslave, or if he's just saying it as a distraction in hopes no one will remember him stating a while ago that Metroid Prime wasn't that impressive graphically and wasn't doing that much with Geometric detail, effects, etc. after this recent video proved him wrong...
As if being proven wrong ever stopped him.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118