Digital Foundry (Official Thread)

I think the late '90s and early '00s were the worst for what we call 'retro gaming' today. I remember trying to find a way to play the old Genesis classics on my DC because I didn't have a Genesis back then, and I simply couldn't find any.

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Originally Posted by Thief

Yeah, had this video posted here for like a few seconds, then realized the title of thread was for Saturn, PS1 and N64. So deleted it even though I enjoyed said video too. Should have just left it as this should be just the default Digital Foundry thread, they do other good works outside of Saturn, PS1 and N64.

Anyway, what I was saying in that deleted post was how generally between PS3 & 360 ports, the 360 usually always came out on top with the superior ports. And now with this, the 360 version via X-Bone X are definitely the superior ports if we're not including PC versions of this these games.

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This thread honestly has gone beyond what it was so I'm gonna change the title on it.

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Originally Posted by Blades

I think the late '90s and early '00s were the worst for what we call 'retro gaming' today. I remember trying to find a way to play the old Genesis classics on my DC because I didn't have a Genesis back then, and I simply couldn't find any.

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There was a Sega Genesis compilation for the Dreamcast. The emulation is kind of wonky though.

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Originally Posted by gamevet

There was a Sega Genesis compilation for the Dreamcast. The emulation is kind of wonky though.

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Oh really? I didn't know about that.

btw I really find it disappointing how almost no retro videos are uploaded by digital foundry while they constantly upload videos of xbone vs ps4pro and which versions looks in which area 2.5% better than the other while fanboy flamewars erupt below the video. and it's not like those retro videos are poorly watched either. when was their last update? july?

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Originally Posted by gamevet

There was a Sega Genesis compilation for the Dreamcast. The emulation is kind of wonky though.

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Ah yes, the Smash Pack. The sound is really, really terrible. It's a shame. The couple of non-emulated/non-Genesis games on it are the only reason I'd play it.

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Originally Posted by j_factor

Ah yes, the Smash Pack. The sound is really, really terrible. It's a shame. The couple of non-emulated/non-Genesis games on it are the only reason I'd play it.

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That's it. I didn't feel like digging it out last night. The 1st game I played was PS2, and I immediately noticed that the music was butchered.

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Originally Posted by Team Andromeda

Doom 3 is ace, Half-Life though changed the way we played FPS for the most part. It did wonders to push the story narrative, voice acting and AI in a FPS IMO, it made Doom 1 and II or even Quake look old hat in comparison.
Its a real shame that Half Life II never came to the DC, much less SEGA giving the porting job to a bunch of monkeys, rather than buying up Lombomty software and geting them to port or getting Raster productions to handle the DC port

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Lobotomy was bought out by Cave in 98 though and damn they're dead. I find it utterly astonishing that they had a working port of Quake for the PSx and couldn't find a publisher. But I do wonder why SoA didn't buy them out considering they made 3 of the absolute best performing American made games. I was a bit angry they bought Visual Concepts considering all the mediocre games they had on the Saturn but that did work out well on the DC.

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Originally Posted by Da_Shocker

Lobotomy was bought out by Cave in 98 though and damn they're dead. I find it utterly astonishing that they had a working port of Quake for the PSx and couldn't find a publisher. But I do wonder why SoA didn't buy them out considering they made 3 of the absolute best performing American made games. I was a bit angry they bought Visual Concepts considering all the mediocre games they had on the Saturn but that did work out well on the DC.

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I agree, Lobotomy should never have been put into that poistion after the amazing work they did for SEGA. Sega America really should have either bought them outright or invested some cash, buy shares to help them through their cash flow troubles. I had no issues with SOA buying VS at the time, but I really wanted it to be Tiburon after their amazing work on the Madden and Strike Saturn ports

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ7qtqqgTlo

The series of events leading up to DKC was interesting, as was a lot of details along the way, but DFR and the interviewees said a lot of misleading things, seemingly to make it sound as though they were pioneering in everything they did.

I've never understood why people fawn so much over DKC.

A ken its gd but fuk me nae need t rub ur nipples about it, calm the beef min.

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I've never understood why people fawn so much over DKC.

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Weren't you there when the first one dropped that Christmas?

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Originally Posted by Thief

Weren't you there when the first one dropped that Christmas?

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What do you mean, there? I mean, yeah, I remember it. It was impressive looking to be sure. But it's not mystical. They used high-powered workstations to make CG and scanned the images in. Imagine if I re-created the Tron lightcycle sequence by directly copying the freeze frames. The only difference is it's original instead of a copy.

DKC series looks great but IMO, graphically speaking, Toy Story on the Mega Drive is the pinnacle of 16bit pre-rendered style platformers.

One thing i liked about DKC 1 and 2 (not 3) is the darker, more "eerie" art style/atmosphere. This is something i didn't like as much in the more recent DKC games by Retro Studios. These are too bright and colorful/cheerful.