Big talk from a group of sexless neckbeards.Quote:
Originally Posted by miru
I guess Sega stopped paying them.
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Big talk from a group of sexless neckbeards.Quote:
Originally Posted by miru
I guess Sega stopped paying them.
Sonic fandom is by far one of the worst fandoms on the Internet, up there with comic book geeks.
Games are great though, however I have to agree with Shiggy about Sonic 1 being rough around the edges, Sonic 2 is a far superior game to me.
Didn't we just have this conversation a few weeks ago?
It's hilarious to me that people who get virtual blowjobs from virtual hookers in GTA act all high and mighty about people who like playing games about a fast hedgehog.
Let's dispel the myth that IGN doesn't know what they're doing.
Were them fuckers being serious? "Sonic was never a good franchise"? WTF are they on about?
Reaction was swift. The original IGN video got 81 likes and .... 2241 dislikes! :p
If there is one thing that is overrated its "professional" video game reviews!
Got a link to the original video so I can follow suit with a dislike and a snarky comment?
Sure! :D
Here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkmMCjYKvaQ
Thanks. I would rep, but must spread some first ;)
I really want to imprint those four fucktard's faces on the back of my mind so that I know not to trust a single opinion spewed from their diarrhea holes.
Haha, wow, that video was straight stupid and reminded me why I don't watch people sit around and talk about video games - it's just honestly a waste of time.
But in all seriousness, if there truly is a hell then I sincerely hope that the hottest corners of its endless inferno are reserved for Nazis, terrorists, pedophiles, John Tesh, and these Sonic-hating scumbags.
People actually listen to podcasts?
I'll never understand why when it comes to video games, you get four random 26-year old hipsters in a room and talk for an hour and everybody thinks it's some valid legitimate opinion worth listening to. Crossfire on CNN had less biased content.
They publish what sells. And hipsters $ell.
Hipsters like Sonic, it's old and colourful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
You gotta be a pure edgelord or a miserable human being to find zero enjoyment from old Sonic games.
Hipsters hate Sonic, except for Sonic CD. which is currently hip to like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogogadget
No seriously, it seems to be a thing now to like Sonic CD and not the rest.
I am seeing the same stupid ass trend. Sonic CD is the least polished and ugliest of the 90s sidescrolling Sonics.
I find Sonic CD to be better than Sonic 2, which I know alot of people think is the best Sonic game. Of course you're all wrong - S3&K is superior, and the definitive classic Sonic title. ;)
Listen to this cat. Seriously, I don't understand how hipsters work.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoVamp
I like Sonic CD. It's not great, it's not bad. The US soundtrack is great and the JP soundtrack is awful.
Remember the days when people would play games before talking about them. Makes you feel OLD doesn't it.
Not trusting Imagine Games Network is nothing new to me. For the Sonic games the first and second I like a tiny bit more because I can play them from start to finish in one sitting also for me anything 2D (Edit#2: But Knuckles' Chaotix, no elastic force ring bond for me thank you) is great whereas anything 3D or third person we could call it I do not like so much, the same can be said about Mario games too Edit: But I do like Sonic more than more than the Mario games.
I guess Chaotix is not underappreciated enough for them.
It's a mixed bag. Near the beginning and near the end it's quite good. The rounds in the middle can be pretty awful though (practically an entire level is conveyor belts with a curvature that doesn't even let you gain speed sanely? 90% of a level has no floor you can stand on so you spend all the time being flung in the air, so fast often you can't even see you're going? shit like that) The cartridge games are way more balanced in this sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by QuickSciFi
I haven't seen that, however I have seen Sonic CD is arguably the best of the 2D Sonics and well... no, no it isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoVamp
Sonic CD is cool but flawed. Sonic's abilities are clunky, the level design is clunky (it has to be because of the time travel, but that doesn't excuse it), the time travel mechanic is clunky. Like Sik said the middle levels leave a lot to be desired.
And yeah I noticed the whole 'Sonic CD is the best, fuck the rest' thing and I can't understand it either. I mean, it being someone's favourite is perfectly fine. Awesome music, metal sonic, time travel, there is a lot to like. I mean the general trend, that baffles me.
Well they did at one point delete the Gamespy ForumPlanet forums...Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
Sonic CD is the worst 2D Sonic in my opinion. The level design ruins the game, especially Collision Chaos and Wacky Workbench Zones, which are just not fun to play at all. The level design doesn't contain the flow that the rest of the series has. I enjoy Chaotix more than Sonic CD to be honest.
90's 16-bit sidescrolling Sonic hierarchy should go:
Sonic 3 & Knuckles (it is awe inspiring) > Sonic 2 (the most polished of all the Sonic games, nonetheless) > Sonic CD > Sonic 1
My preference in order:
Sonic 2 > Sonic 3 & Knuckles > Sonic CD (an unrefined mess that's better than Sonic 1; but deffinitely not better than 2 or 3 or Knuckles)> Sonic 1 (seriously, nostalgia aside, this is the most boring of the Sonic games. And, hell no, there is no way you can have as much fun with a Sonic game without the spin dash. It's just wrong.)
I loved Sonic CD. It's my favorite of the 16 bit Sonic games, but that comes with the caveat that I know it's also flawed.
Sonic 3+Knuckles is objectively better in almost every way for instance. I just enjoy the hell out of playing Sonic CD.
Come to think of it, I'm just glad the trend is now Sonic CD and not Sonic 1. I'm not talking about folks like you guys (Jackal or EcclecticGroove) who simply prefer Sonic CD (I know I prefer Phantasy Star II over IV). I do seem to remember not more than a few months ago, the trend was people hyping-up Sonic 1 in terms of its fun factor vs the other ones :?. Now saying shit like "the only good Sonic game was Sonic CD"..... Naaaahh:bull:
Anyone saying anything like that regarding a very well received multi entry series is full of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by QuickSciFi
I may prefer Sonic CD, but Sonic 1-3+k were all damned good and worth playing.
Did you watch these four morons yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by EclecticGroove
The guy with the glasses and the beard looks like the kind of guy who will throw vinyl records at you if you think his band sucks.
None of this is really surprising though, if any franchise has managed to somehow earn a huge backlash, shitty game after shitty game should most definitely of earnt Sonic a bad reputation and yet somehow it hasn't, somehow Sega can keep producing profitable games.
It's exciting but both ultimately quite sad (even if a little deserved) that Sonic Mania will be nowhere near as successful as it really should be, since Sega have managed to endlessly hurt Sonic, make some progress and make a decent game and then again fuck everything up, they even decided to give the coveted 4th entry in the franchise (despite it being the 15th or so game but whatever) to a game that surely they knew was basically DOA.
Had Sega have just done the right thing all along the hype for Sonic Mania could of been huge, but even with gameplay videos and Christian Whitehead's involvement people are like "ehh.... maybe", not hard to see why.
You're killing me with your "should of/could of"... ;)
Anyways, what I don't understand is why the need to belittle an entire franchise. You never hear a Sonic fan saying absurd things like that about Mario games. Even if you don't like the game, why try and substantiate or even quantify with empty accusations that the 'game' is "bad" or simply "not worth your time"? It's the same thing with the whole Nintendo Vs. Sega idiocy. You can tell it comes from complete and utter ignorance. Chances are not one of them finished a single Sonic game. You hear the same one-sided blind attitude over and over from Nintendo fanboys completely dissing anything made by Sega. I can tell you I am as Nostalgic about retro Sega as these Nintendo fanboys are about Nintendo. And, yet, I am completely welcoming of all Nintendo systems and franchises. Why? Because I love video games. These imbecile, mob-following, fad-crazed hipsters really need to find a new venue. I's obvious they get validated for their brainless opinions because they're going with what most people owned back in the day; yet equate that to More Sales = Better Product.
No, I'm not talking about your honest-to-goodness retrogamer who simply prefers Nintendo. I have no qualms about saying I am an honest -to-goodness retrogamer who simply prefers Sega. But I'm not a brainless hack who needs to justify his love or choice of games/systems by belittling their counterparts. I know many a great folk, even here at sega-16, have more love for Nintendo and they are awesome folks. Why? Because they share that love for retro gaming (or even all things gaming) all across the board. Give me a good game, and I'm going to love it. I don't care what system it came out for.
I've liked Sonic CD the best since 2003, before it was cool to. I think it's mainly the atmosphere and uniqueness that has always drawn me to it. It feels like it doesn't belong in the same series or like the team that was making it didn't communicate with each other very well. It has that disjointed, unpolished feeling. I really do like the art design and music. That's part of why I like Chaotix a lot as well. Both have problems, but that's why I enjoy them. They were like fan-made games. That being said, I'm far more inclined to play one of the MD games if I'm pressed for time and just want some quick fun. CD is for when I have a chunk of time I can set aside.
Sonic CD is admittedly the easiest to beat of all the 2D 16bit Sonics. Definitely quick to grab and go. The biggest appeal, for me, is that it's Sonic on the Sega CD. It's like that Sega CD startup screen logo finally became a game. Didn't you guys get better music in Pal regions, though?
PAL Region person who thinks the US Soundtrack is infinitely better, other than the way too serious Game Over and Boss themes when the bosses in Sonic CD are absurdly silly, the JP soundtrack sounds to me like it's composed with far less quality sounding instruments or whatever it is.
The PC version shipped in Europe with the US soundtrack for what it's worth.
Is that how it went? US Sonic CD music was the better compilation?
In just my opinion yes, I really like the US soundtrack actually, holds up as some wonderful CD quality but still Sonic sounding music, the Wacky Workbench music makes what otherwise is an annoying level all the more bearable.
Sonic 4 is a crap game either way but man did that soundtrack make it all the more worse, forgot how good Sonic soundtracks were.
The reason I ask is because I distinctly remember a thread in this forum way back in the day where the Sonic CD soundtrack variants came into question. I remember it going in favor of the Pal version (Which I think is also the same as the JP version) as the better music; and I even remember liking it better. Even now as I write this post I think I do like the JP/Pal music better as well. But it's funny, bc only recently I got to play Sonic CD, and actually didn't mind the US music at all. But, tbh, the JP/Pal music does sound more like a Sonic game. The U.S. version soundtrack is much lighter and more tropical (something like an OutRun track).
I love the Sonic CD JPN soundtrack ASIDE from the main theme of "Toot Toot Sonic Warrior", which is a nonsensical goofy song. Sonic Boom I find much better. The rest of the JPN soundtrack blows the US one out of the water.
That aside, while I think Sonic CD's level design is the worst of the series, I do not think it is a bad game by any means. To counter QuickSciFi though, I actually think Sonic 1 is the best game. Love the level design in that one without the spin dash, and the levels aren't too sprawling. I'm honestly not sure which one I'd rank the best, perhaps Sonic 1 for some nostalgic reasons. But I don't think there's a bad 2D Sonic game by any means. Anyone who says all of Sonic but Sonic CD sucks doesn't know what they're talking about. Knuckles Chaotix when it all boils down is probably the weakest of the series, but I enjoy playing it more than Sonic CD. Don't care much for Sonic & Knuckles levels either. Love Sonic 1 and 2, and Sonic 3 is excellent too.
All the 2D Sonics are worth playing. Almost none of the 3D Sonics are worth playing. I'll leave it at that. Sonic Mania looks amazing.
Even I will admit Sonic CD or 1 are not bad games, and themselves very enjoyable.
On the subject of Sonic Mania's looks, though, I will be the first to admit I was a bit thrown off (not put off, though) by its similarities in level design to Sonic CD than Sonic 1, 2, 3 or Knuckles. I can't help but be stoked about it, though.
Sonic Mania looks like the love child of Sonic 3 & Knuckles, Sonic CD and Chaotix (mostly for the art style). This really is a good time to be a 2D Sonic fan.
What?! How is this quality subtle track...Quote:
Originally Posted by QuickSciFi
...lighter than this EDM nightmare.
Opinions aside, the real story is that when Sonic CD was set to arrive on our shores, Sega simply couldn't let a game with such a bad soundtrack through, so they ended up redoing it with Spencer Nilsen (also the mastermind behind Ecco CD, another excellent soundtrack).
I just played through KC with the good ending. It was fun, but some of the levels just felt unfinished. The time of day thing was cool too, but the rubber band was more annoying than useful. Overall, it had great potential but it just missed the mark. The style, atmosphere, and especially the music is excellent.Quote:
Knuckles Chaotix when it all boils down is probably the weakest of the series, but I enjoy playing it more than Sonic CD.
Also, what was up with the extremely easy final boss?
It pains me to say, but Chaotix is probably the weakest 2D Sonic, though the 32X could've hosted the best one.
I find it lighter and more tropical than the JP/Pal counterpart.
On second quote: I didn't say that ;)