CLAIM HAVE BEEN MADE!
ZEBBE VS CMA DEATH ADDER!
TWO MEN ENTER! ONE MAN LEAVE!
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CLAIM HAVE BEEN MADE!
ZEBBE VS CMA DEATH ADDER!
TWO MEN ENTER! ONE MAN LEAVE!
Ordered the reprint! good times
yust orderd the one in the plastic case number 6542
still waiting for my pal version to arrive number 197
but what the heck you guys deserve the extra money so here have a drink on it
and great to see that you are making orders so those bitches on ebay can t screw you with high prices
and 1500 posts
I wish they would have at least provided a reviewable ROM, so that I wouldn't have to wait until my retail copy arrives to review it. It would have been nice to have a review up in time for the game's release and not weeks afterward.Quote:
Originally Posted by username
Reviewable ROMs are way too risky. It would leak, which would definitely hurt sales of the new reprint edition and cause other troubles as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
Also, this is not exactly the kind of release that needs reviews ASAP to sell more copies in week 1.
How would it leak? RR are sent to the press for reviewing purposes, and then they're returned to the developers. No one else sees them, and they can even include NDAs (non-disclosure agreements).
And it's not about writing the review to sell copies. It's about timely coverage.
I wonder how long my late order will take, i don't mind a couple of months doesn't bother me in the slightest.
It's leaked when they put it up on the internet. Or am I missing something here? How would returning the ROM stop a copy of the file reaching the internet? (I don't think an NDA would make much of a difference here, really)Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
Review copies would have been extremely unfair to the people who pre-ordered and waited two years (I know you are among them, but not all reviewers would have been). When it came to this game and it's extremely hectic and productive last year, it was for the best to ship all out before Christmas, something which may not have been possible if we had to do many hours of extra work for review copies.
The difference between Pier Solar and SFT's stuff is that Pier Solar is a new game, not a newly translated game - the perception many people have of Beggar Prince and Wukong and the like is that they're essentially fancy repros, which isn't far from the truth, whereas it's impossible to avoid knowing that Pier Solar was made from scratch for the Megadrive in 2010 since it's basically the only thing you've bothered to tell anyone about. SFT also doesn't hold the threat of limited runs over anyones' head, so there's far less incentive to order ASAP or to order multiple copies or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
Believe it or not, I've actually been pimping this game out to people in the hopes that they'd grab a copy, but the moment the conversation transitions to "yeah, it's a new Megadrive game, so what? Is it any good?" my argument falls apart. I mean, I can link them to the website, but all that's there is a bunch of wank about what a technical achievement the game is and how fancy the packaging is. I can send them a copy of the demo (which doesn't seem to be on the site anymore), but then I have to tell them to also watch a Youtube clip or two since the demo doesn't actually resemble the final game since the devs were afraid of ruining the surprise, which immediately makes them suspicious and often turns them off completely. I can direct them to the forums for hands-on impressions but all they find are sycophants rushing to buy a second copy before the first copy has even arrived and a few "I've never played a JRPG before but this is definitely the best one ever made"-style comments, so that gets dismissed immediately. The closest thing I have to a counter-argument is "if it sucks you could flip it on Ebay for the price you paid for it..." which is quite possibly the least compelling endorsement for a product ever.
Like I said before, the game is doing fine purely by exploiting a niche so I understand that you have no inclination to change, but there are plenty of people who've held off from buying because you haven't given them a good enough excuse to do so. Oh well.
A reviewable ROM is an actual cartridge that's mailed to the press to play on actual hardware, not a file on the internet. It's usually a close-to-finished beta that gives the reviewer enough information to write the article. Then, it's mailed back to the developers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
How is it unfair? This is the way the game industry has operated for a long, long time. This actually works to the developers advantage, because reviews go up when the game ships or shortly before.Quote:
Review copies would have been extremely unfair to the people who pre-ordered and waited two years (I know you are among them, but not all reviewers would have been). When it came to this game and it's extremely hectic and productive last year, it was for the best to ship all out before Christmas, something which may not have been possible if we had to do many hours of extra work for review copies.
There is no reason to make another demo, display footage of the entire game or clips of the entire soundtrack. When the reviews start popping in, they will give good enough excuses to buy the game for people who haven't already. Yes, we are so confident in the game, believe it or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by username
OK then, I get it. "ROM" sounded to me like a file you play on an emulator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
It's unfair in the sense people who paid for the game will wait longer to play the game than reviewers who haven't. Typical industry operation or not, this was made for fans and not for money, and in a niche market at that. In Pier Solar's case, the reviews timed with the release doesn't affect the sales very much, since our first run was sold out at release and the second run won't be shipped until February. Plenty of reviews will have been done by then.Quote:
How is it unfair? This is the way the game industry has operated for a long, long time. This actually works to the developers advantage, because reviews go up when the game ships or shortly before.
Where did I say anything about showing off the whole game or uploading the entire soundtrack? As it stands currently the entire showcase on the PS website consists of six screenshots and the line "Pier Solar tells the epic story of Hoston, a young botanist who is on a quest to save his father from a mysterious illness.". That's it. Don't you see how inadequate that is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
Also, what reviews? The only people reviewing the game will be people who preordered ages ago seeing as you haven't sent review copies to anyone; normally I wouldn't dismiss public opinion but when the public is part of a tiny niche with an emotional attachment to the peripheral context of development rather than the actual game it's unlikely that they'll be objective. Hell, it's been happening since the game was announced, it's only going to get worse from here on in.
Username, please leave this topic, you're useless. Ranting about stuff you don't even have or know about. Yes, useless at best.