Is there ever a bad reason to appreciate a game?

A couple of years ago I had a discussion with some guy who critized me for playing some puzzle game on the Playstation. When asking him what his issue really was, he basically replied "Since you may as well play it as a flash game, why did you get a Playstation to begin with?"

And while this guy never really knew me (thus I didn't take it personal), I've been more and more frustrated by his opinion over the years. Hearing someone saying that you've gotten into video games for the wrong reasons and that a console deserves better than a game that I appreciate for its simplicity gives me the impression of some kind of elitism, but maybe I'm wrong. What do you think?

To me, video games are all about having fun. As long as I don't feel like I'm wasting my time, everything has potential to be good and it has its place on the system I'm playing it on. Today I've pretty much made a complete transition to PC so there's room for everything, but I'm all for singleplayer (never liked multiplayer of any sort) which some people may think defeats the purpose of using a gaming PC.

IMO? Sexuality.

I'm looking at you Dead or Alive Xtreme Volleyball. It's just weird and gives a bad name to gamers who aren't seduced by pixels.

Just watch porn.

^haha...i can agree that fanservice alone seems dumb, not just cause it's embarrassing but as you said, there's far, far better venues to just get off.

otherwise though, nah not really? ive got shit like Pit Fighter cause i spent a whole summer playing it with friends in the day...but it's a shit port of a mostly shitty game. so long as you're not buying something to fill a void or put it on a list of complete games to others, i can't say a thing. even then...it's your time/money, i just think there's more going on there that's worth examining.

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Originally Posted by Blades

IMO? Sexuality.

I'm looking at you Dead or Alive Xtreme Volleyball. It's just weird and gives a bad name to gamers who aren't seduced by pixels.

Just watch porn.

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Inb4 the guy who says "why watch porn? just have sex."

Because there's always another thing to do.

If the guy playing Dead or Alive could have sex, they wouldn't own Dead or Alive.

BTW IrishNinja I see you are playing Yakuza 0. I am too. That game is simply the bomb.com.

Just reading thread title alone. No.

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Originally Posted by Thief

Just reading thread title alone. No.

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^This.

No, there isn't. Because it's irrelevant and an opinion. It won't change anything for someone else unless they are the kind of idiot that is only validated by their opinion being the only "correct" or valid one.

If you appreciate an objectively bad game, possibly even because it's so bad, then that's cool.

If you want to play one of the DOA Volleyball games, who cares? Does it make it a good game? no. Does the fact that someone may enjoy the softcore porn aspect, or even the (unlikely) chance they actually enjoy the game itself somehow make gaming less enjoyable for you? Because that would be stupid and says more about you than the person that likes playing a silly game.

You can call them losers, but remember that playing videogames at all used to get you branded in just the same way. If someone enjoys it, and isn't hurting themselves or others with it, I see absolutely no issues at all with them appreciating something about a game.

To me there is a reason, to stop bad mainstream or bad mechanics games. In this sceneario, if you buy games that repeat themselves (CoD) or greedy ones (Battlefront) is a very bad reason to play, purchase them since you give more reason to make (sucky) games like that.

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Originally Posted by Nightwolf

To me there is a reason, to stop bad mainstream or bad mechanics games. In this sceneario, if you buy games that repeat themselves (CoD) or greedy ones (Battlefront) is a very bad reason to play, purchase them since you give more reason to make (sucky) games like that.

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You do know there's more than just those games, right?

Why do you need a reason for anything?

I'm sure there have been many people over the years whose primary use of a $2000 PC was to play solitaire. But if that's what makes them happy, then it's certainly not something I would object to.

Actually, I take that back. There is one and only one bad reason for which to "appreciate" a game:

MONEY!

Other than that, enjoy at your own pace and leisure.

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Originally Posted by Nightwolf

To me there is a reason, to stop bad mainstream or bad mechanics games. In this sceneario, if you buy games that repeat themselves (CoD) or greedy ones (Battlefront) is a very bad reason to play, purchase them since you give more reason to make (sucky) games like that.

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Lol. Yeah, well, I guess I was not the first one in the thread to open-up the semantics door. When I read your post, I though, "but... I like those games". Not for their multiplayer, but for their single player campaigns as well as their great gameplay (insert any franchise that made more than two and your list will expand until you hit virtually every single gaming franchise ever made). I'm not saying your point is flawed or anything. It's your opinion. But if I like a game, I don't care how many people out there are playing it or how popular it has gotten. Whether it be niche or mainstream, if I like it, I will play it.

Which brings me to open a second door I didn't even think about...

...I will say that "forcing" yourself to play a game out of peer pressure that you most definitely do not like or appreciate is very likely a painfully, cringe-worthy reason to find yourself playing a game. But, then again, that's not the OP's original thread question. Good topic, if you want to use it, nissling. Free of charge ;).

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Originally Posted by Blades

I'm looking at you Dead or Alive Xtreme Volleyball. It's just weird and gives a bad name to gamers who aren't seduced by pixels.

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I have to somewhat agree but at the same time disagree. As a game itself, it's closer to a shovelware children's game where they dress up their favorite Frozen character. However it has BOOBIES! Even representative female forms do intrigue me. Obviously this doesn't take away from a real female form's charm. However the advantage of the pixel and even the drawing is that you can... do things that your real woman would be unwilling or displeased to do. I'll leave that to the imagination... or Deviantart.

More on topic though. The reason for liking games is entirely subjective and can't really be quantified. I mean somebody out there thinks Bubsy 3D is the greatest game ever, I will question said person's sanity, but it makes them happy and keeps them from running amok in the streets.

I enjoy some games with subpar gameplay but excellent presentation (be it story, music, graphics, setting, etc.).
Don't really see it as a bad reason though.

I can complain about SoulStar's gameplay design to death, but I can beat the game on the hard path with my eyes closed (every youtuber I've seen either savescums or gives up at the second level). The game's presentation is so good that I put up with the annoyances till I beat it.

My girlfriend is going through the same with Ori and the Blind forest now. Easily one of the most beautiful games ever made, but 90% of the game are spikes. It still feels worth it though.