Approaching Nintendo levels of purposely confusing your customer base as much as possible.
Why can't it just be "this is the PS5, it plays PS5 games and PS4 games" instead of "it's a hardware revision/it's slightly more powerful/it does this" and nobody has a fucking clue what to buy.
I still don't know if I want a PS4 Pro or PS4 Slim. What the fuck does the PS4 Pro actually do.
The better question is: Which games do I really want to play, and what is the minimum I need to spend to be able to play them? The PS4 Pro is something of an unnecessary existence, bordering on a mistake. Without being a clear upgrade of the base PS4 hardware, and exhibiting higher framerates and fewer issues than the original system, it's like a fifth son.
I don't think it's a "mistake" per se.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raijin Z
It's just when you look at the PS4 slim and PS4 pro you can look at the other side of the fence and see the xb1s brings more to the table than the PS4 slim and even has a feature the Pro doesn't have. And that's not even including the scorpio.
To me, it just makes the 2 new PS4 models just look like a half baked afterthought.
Anyone with a set of eyes, a HDR 4K TV and a Ps4Pro knows the huge difference it makes. I doubt people complaining about that here have actually seen it. The differences are night and day.
It also supports Netflix 4K, which some PCs can't do.
The caveat is, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by bultje112
If you have a 4K TV and are playing a game that supports those new features.
If the game doesn't support them, then the difference is only going to be noticeable if you are coming from a 1080p TV that was noticeably worse looking than the 4K TV displaying 1080p content.
Why would there be ps4 pro exclusives when it's basically the same processing power as regular ps4. All the pro seems to be capable of is up scaling graphics via a cheap trick to sucker folks into buying another ps4 at maximum profit for sony. At least that my understanding so far.
And this makes even less sense if they're releasing another ps4 successor.
^Yeah, I can't see the PS4 Pro making leaps and bounds against the base PS4. Games would be more like the ports we saw early on between the PS3 and the base PS4; like minor differences in graphics such as in Black Flag or The Last of Us. But the Scorpio most definitely can make a difference based on the specs. As it stands, I just can't see the PS4 Pro as this amazing hardware powerhouse. It'll take at least another rendition, or a PS5.
The PS4 Pro has an upgraded graphics card that's supposedly about 50% more powerful, and an overclocked CPU. In addition, it has support for 4K, including the ability to do some pretty advanced upscaling (for example, temporal upscaling that uses previous frames to fill in pixels for later frames). For games that support it, you can play in 4K (most games upscaled but a few in native 4K). Most games from what I've seen are rendered internally at about 1440p and upscaled to 4K. For 1080p users, it depends on the game and the developer. In practice, for newer games, this usually means smoother framerates, higher resolution, and better in game effects. There's also something called "boost mode" for older games. Depends on exactly how they were coded, but it generally means smoother framerates all around. Basically like upgrading your PC from a lower end graphics card to a higher end one in the same line. It's not a revolutionary difference, but if it's your thing, it's an option. It's definitely not powerful enough to be called a PS5. It's more like iPhone -> iPhone S or 3DS -> New 3DS. If you don't already own a PS4, it might make sense to you to get the Pro, but if you do, there's no reason yet to get rid of the base PS4 for a Pro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogogadget
I'm pretty sure the 4K performance on my PC would blow away £350 hardwareQuote:
Originally Posted by bultje112
That sounds good, although realistically if I buy a console I should get the maximum performance out of every game already regardless of 'Pro' or not Pro model.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tower of Power
But then I live in the real world and I know not to expect anything other than 30fps, so whatever
Uh, The Last of Us runs @60 fps while in 1080p on the PS4.
they're always gonna trade framerate for resolution & going into VR isn't going to make the trend die down, sadlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Gentlegamer
that dream feels kinda dead
do you have a 4k TV, for some reason? if not, expect a more stable framerate on some gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by Gogogadget
I thought the Dreamcast was going to usher in the era of high rez and consistent 60 fps. Amazing how things actually work out.
Well, don't they tend to make VR games run at 90fps?Quote:
Originally Posted by IrishNinja
Wasn't VR the primary reason the Pro got made? Because the base PS4 is just not quite powerful enough to do the job well?
But who knows where VR is going in general. It seems like the massive hype around VR is already evaporating.