This is just for fun and a little curiosity. I like Mario, but some of his titles fall into that overrated category. Personally, I'd vote Mario World.
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This is just for fun and a little curiosity. I like Mario, but some of his titles fall into that overrated category. Personally, I'd vote Mario World.
It was either Mario World or the original Mario. I like both games, but I have a few problems with Super Mario World. The music is the same damn thing in every level, or rather a variation of which. Minus the Ghost Houses if I remember correctly. There is a lack of the pre-level item use which was an amazing innovation of Mario 3. There are slightly less enemies (64 in Mario 3 and 62 enemies in World some are repeats), there are technically less powerups including. World did introduce Yoshi, but oddly enough for me at least, I hated Yoshi as a character. I liked the movie version of Yoshi more. With that said, World is an enjoyable game, but for me it was a downgrade from Super Mario Bros 3.
SMW was pretty disappointing to me after 3, I expected a lot more than what I got. Like Barone said in another thread it's an 8bit game with passable 16bit graphics.
Yoshi's Island is neat but I freaking hate baby Mario and want him dead. I also find it overrated, the game isn't all that amazing, certainly nothing close to S3&K.
Super Mario 64 was revolutionary at the time, but I can't play it these days. I'd rather play Croc.
The "2D with 3D graphics" Mario games like New Super Mario Bros are all terrible.
They're all overrated, but the NES/Famicom platformers, SMW and SML2 are good. I never like SMW2 and don't think it's even much of a platformer.
Mario 64 is fun, particularly the DS version, but completely pales in comparison to the good 2D games.
Sunshine is a mess that feels like tedious work instead fun.
I played the first Galaxy game and they finally figured out how to do good art/style for a 3D Mario game (just rip off Sonic Jam), but the gameplay pales in comparison that much more compared to Mario 64.
I can't be bothered to try any more newer games and even if New SMB is a good game aside from the stale visuals, they're enough to deter me from finding out. I'd rather just play the numerous old games that I enjoy.
Never felt as ripped off as when I got Super Mario Sunshine. Back then, I was hoping for Super Mario 128.
Super Mario Land 2 is THE Mario game, best one easily. Shame it's a b&w gameboy game... it really should have gotten a GBA remake or sequel.
They're all overrated to a certain degree, so I'm sticking with the ones that are "seriously" overrated.
Yoshi's Island has very nice visuals and some good set pieces, but it's too long, somewhat lacking variety, and too easy. The only challenge is in trying to get 100% by collecting every flower piece etc. I can never be arsed to bother with that sort of challenge. I felt like they took that straight out of Donkey Kong Country. It was like they saw how well DKC sold and figured every game had to have that. It's still fun and interesting enough to play through, but it's not fantastic.
Super Mario 64 has a shit camera, very lame environments, and the whole system of progression (gaining stars to unlock further levels) is very tedious. It was very impressive at the time in some ways, and I feel that made people turn a blind eye to its faults as a game. I tried to give it a legit second chance when it came as a pack-in with my DS, figuring maybe I had been too harsh, and I still couldn't tolerate it for long. To this day, 99% of the time I see it getting praise, it starts off with either "when I was a kid" or a dissection of the circumstances of its release in 1996. That can be a topic worthy of discussion, but if that's all you got, it's not very high praise IMO.
New Super Mario Bros. DS was one of the most disappointing games I've ever played. I thought we were overdue for a "proper" 2d Mario. I always thought it was weak that they didn't make an original game in the series for the GBA, instead throwing out port after port after port. At the same time, I thought Nintendo did a good job with semi-related GBA games like Wario Land 4 and Mario vs. Donkey Kong. I was ready for this game to kick all kinds of ass. Instead what I got was a generic implementation of a committee's idea of what a new Mario game would be like. They checked off certain boxes and phoned it in. My first time playing NSMB, the game just about put me to sleep, but then I finished the game in my sleep and beat it with 40+ extra lives.
Mario 64.
The only Mario platformers I really enjoy anymore are 1983 Arcade Mario Bros and Mario vs DK. The rest put me to sleep especially the OG SMB.
I almost feel tempted to say Mario 64 is the most overrated of the bunch, but it was trying something different than Mario World. It's a 7 out of 10 game for me. That being said, I'm not blind to some of the flaws it had. Personally, I'm not huge on the controls, which I felt Banjo-Kazooie did better at. Some of the camera angles weren't that great. The second half of the game felt underdeveloped. I like it, but it's not going to make me stop playing Crash Bandicoot or Gex.
Tried NSMB Wii once. It didn't come off as impressive to me compared to Galaxy. I'll be curious to see how others feel about the NSMB games and the 3D "insert word" games.
I'm one of those people that thinks most Mario platformers (and Nintendo in general) have no replay value. You beat them once, you're done. Not much to go back to compared to other games from other companies. I'll have to see how this poll continues to do.
Super Mario World is fun, sure, but it's definitely not aged well compared to other games in the series. Yoshi's Island blows it out of the water in pretty much every way. Also the 'default' sound patch set used in 40% of SNES games, SMW included, is muffled, flat, over-echoed, sub-telephone quality garbage, and people give the GEMS driver grief?
@j_factor: Oh come on, Next Generation said Super Mario 64 was the best game EVAR!!1 back when it was released! And we all know that videogame magazines are always right. :rofl:
Me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by sull56ivan2010
Super Mario World. Honestly, for what it sets out to do, Super Mario Bros. 3 is one of the best platform games ever created and after the template and quality standard that it set, SMW took definitely a step back in it's game design. Other members have pointed out other flaws in this game, so there's no need for me to go there again. It's definitely a good, rock solid game but not worth the praise "BEST GAME EVER" praise that it gets.
I felt temped to vote for Mario 64, but that game was the first leap of the series in 3D and aside from the problems already well specified by j_factor, I think that it did a good job all things considered.
I think people are confused by the poll title. It should read "Which Mario game is least replayable to you." Because I can't imagine why anyone would choose to replay Mario 64 over SMW.
I voted for Mario 64 and Super Mario World. Super Mario World just feels uglier and too muddled in browns and purples. Yoshi was a poor addition, and flying with the cape doesn't see much use (though it is fun). I hate the spin jump. I do like the Ghost Houses, but the game itself is pretty mediocre for me. I'll note that a friend's mom had me keep and "test" his SNES Christmas present when it first came out, and I didn't think much of it then, and I still wouldn't put it in my top five Mario games.
Mario 64 embodies everything I loathe about 3-D platformers and games. More space and walking around environments than gameplay. Everything Mario was about was tossed aside because it just doesn't work in 3-D. No more precision gameplay. No more challenge. Everything is dragged out. Focus is now entirely on collecting junk. We're given a controllable camera which is garbage but went on to influence 3-D games for decades to come. I was so happy to see that Super Mario Galaxy finally ditched the user controlled camera, because it should never have been a thing to begin with. It is a stopgap solution which allowed developers to avoid addressing design problems for too long.
The New Super Mario Bros. series is fantastic. It's not going to impress anyone because it's not trying to reinvent the wheel. It's a solid old school Mario platform game, and I much prefer how it plays over the NES originals. I really enjoyed the first two, and it's a big reason I want to pick up a Wii U (just not at its current price). I do wish they were a bit more challenging, and the gimmicks (Super Mushroom/Wiimote waggle) are a bit lame, but neither issue spoils my enjoyment.Quote:
Originally Posted by sull56ivan2010