By the founder of Traveller's Tales no less.
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By the founder of Traveller's Tales no less.
Cool find there. I spent quite a lot of time with this game a few years ago, I didn't play it during my original time with the saturn though. I think it's a great looking, colourful game and the slightly cheesy lyrics always made me smile.
Controls are just a little stiff, but after I vhanged my mindset a little and imagined each character as a vehicle I found it, somewhat bizarrely, easier to control. I seem to remember unlocking everything.
Some cool nuggets in the vid, like the technical info with the big red squre test.
I loved Sonic R. I played it on PC when it was new, then got the Saturn version in the mid 2000s. The PC version is far superior IMO (weather effects!).
looks just like how the final one played amirite
You mean those ripples? Looks like minnows at the surface to me. :p I just watched a quick run of the PC port, and I'm not seeing rain or anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
It definitely looks sharper. Was surprised to see Sonic R on PS2 advertised on the side, but I seem to have forgotten about the Sonic Gems Collection. The PS2 and GameCube have those ripples, and all three look to have some tweaks here and there -- namely I'm not seeing the shiny metallic Sonic head used as a loading screen in those, and the camera pan at the start of the race is further out and doesn't get as close to all of the Flickies.
did any sonic r release after the saturn ever fix the atrocious handling? i've never played a game so horrendously ill controlled.
Can't stop loving lyrics, voice and music from this game. ❤
Haven't played the game, but sometimes catch myself singing "can you feel the sunshine" in 3 different languages at the same time.
Don't even understand how I managed to get so far with this. How even.
😆
Which languages? Of course, we'd need to actually hear it... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Peeteris
:D That sounds too silly to be heard by anyone else, but languages are - English, Russian and Latvian.Quote:
Originally Posted by cleeg
No, I mean torrential thunder and lightning. That fool just disabled the weather effects for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benjamin
This is the GEMS version, which has a few errors (see Sonic Retro for those), but is the PC version. 3:42 for snow. 8:30 for sunset. Can't find a video for rain (which is the best effect IMO). There are others too.
It's night and day. The Saturn version is slower, laggy, has extensive fadein, and is missing some features.
The PC version runs silky smooth (even on a period '97 PC) with 3D acceleration, has night and day cycles, has weather effects (when it snows, the water freezes so you can run on it), and has a few bugs fixed (for example, Eggrobo has a piece of Tails' texture in the Saturn version for some reason).
It started as a F1 game if I recall correctly, so no surprise here.Quote:
Originally Posted by cleeg
I have footage of it in a playthu of the game I did a while back, (skip into it, it's at 2:36). I agree with the PC version being the best, but it's not easy to setup on modern Windows - you need to do a bit of tweaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
Great video Jackal.
Does it even run on modern Windows?
That's a myth. Not sure who started it, but there's an article in Retro Gamer that talks about Sonic R's development.Quote:
It started as a F1 game if I recall correctly, so no surprise here.
That would be an interesting read. Do you remember which issue it appeared in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
You need to find a patched executable (the most obvious bug it fixes being that Sonic R would crash on modern computers because they're so fast that when it tries to calculate the timings for the framerate it ends up dividing by zero).Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...Jon_Burton.phpQuote:
Originally Posted by Blades
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“Sonic R was actually a Formula One game for the Sega Saturn,” reveals Burton. “It took six months from start to finish [to convert the game into a Sonic title], hence the low number of tracks.”
It just came about becasue Jon Burton comfirmed that in order to get Sonic R going, the Team used the engine and render from their planned Saturn F1 game which was early in development by was able to draw the track and a few cars along with basic AIQuote:
Originally Posted by Blades
Sounds like I've been proven wrong. That's not what he said in the RG article...
I'll try to find it.
It really was what Jon said and I can save you the effort (dont meant to be funny but I'm a nerd when it comes to Saturn interviews with the UK press ).Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4411/...b8eaa452_c.jpg
^Nice.
Is this you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peeteris
It's perfectly possible the F1 game was too early to have taken any real shape yet and only the basics were there. In any case it explains why the characters control like vehicles (why it didn't occur to them to tweak them is beyond me, although maybe they did and it used to be worse at some point?).
:D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Blades
Even though I could try to make my voice so high, that doesn't change the fact that this particular cover is sung by a woman.
I like this cover better -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYDWVa0vJS8
In Russian these songs sound even cheesier. :D
Lyrics are more cringy too (at least that's what I think, not that good in Russian tbh).
Repped. Thanks for posting. What was on the front cover of the magazine or the issue number? (I have some of the magazines but I don't recognise that feature, just trying to see if I have it or not)Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Andromeda
I'm fluent. Cringe doesn't even begin to describe it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peeteris
Does that apply to the 2004 re-release as well? I know it was patched to be playable on XP, and has a couple of bugs squashed+new graphical features here and there, but I've no idea if you need a fan-patched exe like you do with the '98 release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sik
I have '04 version anyway, I think I'll check it out myself to see how it fares on W10.
^New graphical features?
Seems like that one works even with UAC enabled (older ones won't)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Jackal
https://tcrf.net/Sonic_R_(Windows)/2...se_Differences
I'm guessing that's why DXwind is needed with the '98 release, because of UAC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sik
Many thanks for that link. Nice to see all the changes compiled into one list.
Nah, I mistaken on that. I remember when they dug up and found out about the '04 release and were dissecting it on Retro, must of misremembered one of those details.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
I'm pretty sure there was a way to increase the draw distance though, I just can't remember which version allowed it.
I could be wrong, but I'm sure that's from Issue 22 of Sega Saturn UK. I remember reading that interview bitd.Quote:
Originally Posted by stu
EDIT: Annnnddd, I was wrong. Interview I was referring to is here, on page 22.
The article I was referring to is in issue 139 of Retro Gamer.Quote:
Originally Posted by stu
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Originally Posted by Blades
Thanks for the info. :)
That one actually (check the page I linked). The draw distance buttons were always there, but this version removed the cap so you can make the draw distance as large as you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Jackal
Its Issue#139 and the Cover is Mario Bros.Quote:
Originally Posted by stu
This sounds fascinating. Anyone ever try to do this on a modern PC? One of the reasons the PC version is way better than the Saturn version is the draw distances, which are so small on the Saturn that it looks like you're running through a fog. I initially played through the game on PC myself, on a copy that had no music.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sik
I just installed the '04 version on W10; it booted straight away with no issues. Amazing. Still need to try and get the game to run at 1080p (might need to hex edit it?) but yeah, runs fine on a default install.
Sorry, I skimmed thru it and must've missed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sik
I like when do they do stuff like that. Thanks for the info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sik
@The magazine: I legit got confused and thought it was that Sonic R SSUK issue from years back. I have that issue of RG as well, so I must've got the two mixed up. My bad. :?
EDIT: According to it's PCGW page, Sonic R'04 has a 25fps cap. Odd. But meh, it's fixable at least.
I just did. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unkw4bv7ckM
2004 version with maxed out draw distance, and the music plays as well. Weather effects enabled as well (and just to go the extra mile, I'm using my Saturn controller to play the game).
Thanks for the reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Andromeda
No Probs, I have a copy of that issue of SS magazine so I checked out the interview there too. I've been playing the Sonic Gems version a lot on my Wii that I recently soft modded. Love the music.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Jackal
Even earlier one found!
Lol @ the founder of Traveller's Tales having World of Warships installed.
Also here's another.
These prototype finds are always cool. I played those leaked sonic 2 prototypes and it was fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9bkKw32dGw
Not going to start a new thread for this, so here. Pretty cool video.