I didn't vote in 2000 because I didn't really care for either candidate. in '04 it was Kerry because I disliked him less.
But if I could do 2000 over again I sure as hell would vote for Gore. I'm sure I'm not the only one
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I didn't vote in 2000 because I didn't really care for either candidate. in '04 it was Kerry because I disliked him less.
But if I could do 2000 over again I sure as hell would vote for Gore. I'm sure I'm not the only one
I'm sure a few more votes wouldn't have helped Gore in 2000 (well maybe in Florida). The Electoral College system is a joke. For a country that preeched and promoted values of democracy and freedom to the rest of the globe, you sure have a messed up voting system.
A large portion of the people on this board? Unless there are some aliens here, I am insulting everyone. But I let you rip on my dear Prime Minister. Tell me he started a war based on lies which has killed 100k+ people, or something similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Lizard
We all know the Swedish Prime Minister drowns babies. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
Nobody in the South Pacific was insulted in your earlier post and Russia didn't really get a mention. The Indian sub-continent, Canada and Central America were overlooked too - just being picky.
Shhhh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Smith
I don't think we have any of those people here, except for some Mexican. If they ever come here I will insult them as ALIENS!Quote:
Nobody in the South Pacific was insulted in your earlier post and Russia didn't really get a mention. The Indian sub-continent, Canada and Central America were overlooked too - just being picky.
No one here likes Bush. I too can drop low blows labeled as facts. Did you know Sweden refuses to prosecute Nazi War Criminals?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
No one here likes Bush either. What does/do America/you think of Reinfeldt?Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Lizard
No, but I know the reasons they don't. No Nazi war crimes against Swedish law were commited in Sweden, and if they were, they would have been prescripted long ago. Did you know USA has their own concentration camp at Guatanamo Base, where suspected terrolists are being held captive without any prosecution?Quote:
Did you know Sweden refuses to prosecute Nazi War Criminals?
Tell me about it. :?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Smith
I'll play along and come up with facts about other countries:
Post-it notes are illegal in Sweden and half the population are afraid of pickles.
In England pickles are illegal and half the population are afraid of Post-it notes.
I would have chosen the near whole sale genocide of the Native Americans or the treatment or Japaneses citizens during world war II. Those were true concentration camps . Not death camps like Nazis had. Guantanamo Bay is pin prick compared to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
As for Reinfeldt. You would be right to say Americans know nothing because most would have no idea who you are talking about. But I am not one of them. It is an interesting turn of events. He is conservative ( at least by Swedish standards), correct? This was the first time a conservative governmentss has had power there in how many years? My wife was bitter when he was elected. They were going to raise the price of the Bus and the Tunnelbana. I guess that would easy for him to do if everyone drove Bmws like him. Will he try to regulate immigration. I have heard that no one will even bring up that topic in the Riksdag being such a touchy subject. After all Sweden is same country where waving your its own flag would be like a waving a Swastika in the U.S. . I know he supports Bush. Bush does follow the NeoLiberal ( no not liberal, neoliberal)way of thinking (pro business) which would make sense for a pro business leader. I think it is interesting he wants Sweden to join Nato. I cant even imagining that happening
As far for the War criminals. Every other country European does expedite Nazi war criminals. It does not matter whether they are 97 years old. There is no statute of limitations on murder. My wife says usually criminals are sent back home in Sweden. I fail to see how they are any different. As for the crime itself not happening in Sweden, the German trains going through Sweden into occupied Norway were loaded with troop ans supplies. On the way back they were full of Men ,women and children headed for death camps. I think that does qualify as a crime.
We are talking about the democratic 2000s here, not the dictatorship of the 30s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Lizard
Much more liberal than conservative, as the conservatives are almost dead in Sweden.Quote:
As for Reinfeldt. You would be right to say Americans know nothing because most would have no idea who you are talking about. But I am not one of them. It is an interesting turn of events. He is conservative ( at least by Swedish standards), correct?
12. But the only real conservative party (Christ-Democrats) in Sweden has only about 5% of the votes, but are in the government together with three liberal parties (more or less, including the Moderates, where Reinfeldt is the leader).Quote:
This was the first time a conservative governmentss has had power there in how many years?
You vote for three "regions" in Sweden. Municipality, "Landsting" (like your states) and the Riksdag. Raising the bus and subway prices is in control of the Landsting, therefor Reinfeldt has nothing to do with it.Quote:
My wife was bitter when he was elected. They were going to raise the price of the Bus and the Tunnelbana. I guess that would easy for him to do if everyone drove Bmws like him.
True. Anyone who wants to do that is a racist. At least we take more Iraqi refugees than the rest of EU together, something that mainly Bush has caused.Quote:
Will he try to regulate immigration. I have heard that no one will even bring up that topic in the Riksdag being such a touchy subject.
True, true.Quote:
After all Sweden is same country where waving your its own flag would be like a waving a Swastika in the U.S.
Me neither. It won't. The opposition has too much power so they can stop it. I am very glad for that. NATO sucks ass.Quote:
I know he supports Bush. Bush does follow the NeoLiberal ( no not liberal, neoliberal)way of thinking (pro business) which would make sense for a pro business leader. I think it is interesting he wants Sweden to join Nato. I cant even imagining that happening
In Sweden it is 25 years. The Palme murder investigation is probably put to rest 2011...Quote:
As far for the War criminals. Every other country European does expedite Nazi war criminals. It does not matter whether they are 97 years old. There is no statute of limitations on murder.
You might think so, then current Swedish law doesn't. Take a look at this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_StatesQuote:
My wife says usually criminals are sent back home in Sweden. I fail to see how they are any different. As for the crime itself not happening in Sweden, the German trains going through Sweden into occupied Norway were loaded with troop ans supplies. On the way back they were full of Men ,women and children headed for death camps. I think that does qualify as a crime.
I'm sure there were many, many, many more war crimes commited by Americans compared to Swedish in the modern time. Sweden actually hasn't participated in a war since almost 200 years. In every country was like that, what a peaceful world we would have!
First off of course we have been in many wars. We not a country of 8 million people. There are over 301 million of us . Secondly I could care less about Reinfeldt and I feel no need to bash him. However he may belong to the "moderate" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Moderate_Party
party but his politics are anything but.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredrik_Reinfeldt
The conservatives are anything but dead they may call themselves moderate but they are far more conservative then the social democrats. Whether the bus fairs were raised in the Riksdag or in the Landsting does not matter the conservatives were to blame. A 25 year statute of limitations for murder, Wow, thats one of the worst things I have ever heard. That makes me sick. Do you mean anyone who would try to regulate immigration would be called a racist or you feel yourself they are racist? I fail to see how 45,000 unemployed immigrants in Malmö alone could be healthy for Sweden. Maybe you don't notice the problems living in Täby. Maybe you need a trip to Rinkeby. My wife loves of being chased by immigrants calling her a "whore" because she was not being escorted by a man. Its not even safe to walk around parts of Sweden if your female. I don't think you can pin the immigration problem on Bush. What about immigrants from Bosnia, Turkey, Iran and Ethiopia. AS for the Iraqi immigrants I saw them with my own eyes in December 2004. They were jumping and screaming for joy in Sergels Torg when the United States captured Saddam Hussein. And yes we take Iraqi Immigrants in U.S. too. In fact we have well over 90,000 here. Of course we have had wars though Sweden had only been an Angel for 200 years and I think collaborating with Nazis is nothing to cheer about. Yes if we could be like Sweden and stick our head in the sand what a wonderful world we would have.
I'm from Ireland myself a nation of greedy begrudgers regarding our money, yet we are famed for our humour and our welcoming nature which are attributes I can vouch for, we don't judge books by their cover and generally are a tolerant nation....
Although rising to the top of Eu regarding money per capita and various other economic strides has lead to a slight change from the happy go lucky culture to a vacous and superior class divide... The gulf is getting wider and wider by the days, but the Country is on the crest of a fall.... Growth rates are still strong but beginning to dip, the Countrys top economic analysts are predicting a big recession due to the Countrys Government relying on a false economy powered by a housing industry and cheap labour from the new Eu states like Poland and Lithunia....
Our Government has been in power now for around 23 of the last 25 years and are facing another 5 year term ahead, the countries staunch conservative voting patterns has the country locked in a state that more resembles a dictatorship than a democracy due to the ignorance and conservatism of the ordinary joe that was bred from 700 years of oppression at the hands of the English.... (Ps I harbour no ill-feeling, their empire was probably the most humanitarian of all, considering the spanish/portageuse and even more lately the Americans which were propelled due to slavery)
Anyways regarding the U.S. I can only echo the sentiments of Zac de la Rocha, "Fear is your only God"... They didn't get to the top by sitting around sucking their thumbs, they got their through ruthlessness and fierce ambition any current struggles and controversies and wars are the act of an under pressure president desperate to maintain the status of the US as the dominant world force under duress from the emerging Chinese and Indians and the impending shortage of oil...
Re Zebbe, I am an admirer of nothern European states and the Germans, the economic models are in general effective and the culture is good, once again in general, I do however not like the materialistic/shallow trait that is inherent in the sterotypical swede. Whether or not it be true of you or any other swede in particular stereotypes are borne from percentages. But in general great places to live I'd imagine..
Yeah, and Swedish moderates are still more liberal than your democrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Lizard
So what? The taxes were lowered.Quote:
Whether the bus fairs were raised in the Riksdag or in the Landsting does not matter the conservatives were to blame.
Death penalty on children makes me sick.Quote:
A 25 year statute of limitations for murder, Wow, thats one of the worst things I have ever heard. That makes me sick.
The first. They are healthier here than in "your" Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa or wherever... It's a matter of helping people. I'm sure there are unemployed and poor people in USA too....Quote:
Do you mean anyone who would try to regulate immigration would be called a racist or you feel yourself they are racist? I fail to see how 45,000 unemployed immigrants in Malmö alone could be healthy for Sweden.
I'm sure there are similar places in the US of A.Quote:
Maybe you don't notice the problems living in Täby. Maybe you need a trip to Rinkeby. My wife loves of being chased by immigrants calling her a "whore" because she was not being escorted by a man. Its not even safe to walk around parts of Sweden if your female.
Bosnia = your fault. Chile = your fault (11 september...). Many places in Africa (for example Eritrea) = your fault etc. etc.Quote:
I don't think you can pin the immigration problem on Bush. What about immigrants from Bosnia, Turkey, Iran and Ethiopia.
I think many more would do the same if someone captured Bush...Quote:
AS for the Iraqi immigrants I saw them with my own eyes in December 2004. They were jumping and screaming for joy in Sergels Torg when the United States captured Saddam Hussein.
Last year, 9 million Sweden took 96000 refugees. Most were from Iraq. Compare that to your 301 million USA and 90000....Quote:
And yes we take Iraqi Immigrants in U.S. too. In fact we have well over 90,000 here.
Neither is collaborating with Pinochet, Israel, Usama bin Laden (yes, the US collaborated with him back in the Afghani-Soviet war in 1978), all those dictators in Africa and South America, all Islamist leaders in the Middle East with oil etc. etc.Quote:
Of course we have had wars though Sweden had only been an Angel for 200 years and I think collaborating with Nazis is nothing to cheer about.
Yes, it would be a better world without wars.Quote:
Yes if we could be like Sweden and stick our head in the sand what a wonderful world we would have.
I don't get it. Please explain more deeply.Quote:
Originally Posted by megabomberman
Let's be honest here. The world has gone to hell since the British Empire fell apart. Nobody knew how to rule an empire with the liberty, arrogance and good manners of us Brits. We were the best kind of mega-lo-maniac imaginable. Admit it world - you regret the sun setting on the British Empire.
I already made that point. I guess you didn't read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
Yes and your cherished social programs took a hit. It will make paying the unemployment on those tens of thousands immigrants you help so much even easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
[QUOTE=Zebbe]10 years for murder makes me sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
Of course their are unemployed people in the U.S. This is not the point. This is well known. We take in far more people then Sweden. You are helping them at the expense of yourself. Plus moving to Sweden does not always mean refuge .Many of the things the refugees had fled from in the first are now in Sweden. It is not uncommon for victims to run into their torturers on the street. Rampant unemployment, abuse of women, and the slow strangling of your country does not help you or them. Get out more. Get your head out of the sand. bad things are going on their.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
No. Their are nasty places here. But no one will call you a whore because you leave your house without a man or rape you because their culture says it okQuote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
Please do tell dear Sebastian how is Bosnia our fault. And 911 come one now your just talking out your ass. I can give you a list of what we have done. It is bad but at least get facts straightQuote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
I saw what I saw. If it makes you angry the very people who were tortured by a brutal dictator were happy about his capture then I don't know what to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
We have 37.5 immigrants living in this country. Thats more then 4 times the population of Sweden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
This is old news kid. I'll use your own "were talking about the democratic 2000's"Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
I see you missed the point. I was not referring to wars but your own problems you ignoreQuote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
I don't care how bad you think we are. I know this already. The only that makes me mad is you forget that are far from perfect yourself. So stop talking like like your a bunch of Angels. I saw this with my own eyes. I wouldn't bother with this nonsense if i hadn't.