if you love Shrmups/Twin stick boy I hope you own a PS4/Switch!

What I truly love this generation is how much love these genres are getting. Now I don't want to just list everything but will mention good few. I'm not that big into AAA games but both these systems are reminding me of Saturn back in the day. So many niche awesome games of different genres but the two that excite me most they have a lot to choose from. If you like twin stick, PS4 has the Housemarque games like Resogun, Matterfall, and Nex Machina and boy are you missing out if you have not played those yet. (I'm missing out as I have yet to buy Alienation) and Switch has while not as good but still neo un in Neon Chrome, Jydge and others.

PS4 is just loving me as a Shmup fan. Raiden V (I love this series), Darius Burst CS and a ton of ship DLC if you like SEGA, Konami, Cave and many others. Sine Mora EX, Caladrious Blaze, Ghost Blade HD, Astebreed, Sky Force and more. Switch shares some of those like Sie Mora, Sky Force and a couple others like Graceful Explosion Machine and RXN Raijin. Where Switch really shines is old Arcade shoot em ups. Zero Gunner 2, Gunbird, Samurai Aces, Strikers 1945 1 and 2, Blazing Star, Pulstar, Aero Fighters, GunBarich, Alpha Mission games, Zed Blade, Last Resort and others. The switch is also a dumping ground for many old Neo Geo arcade games as is PS4 but also more obscure stuff like Gate of Doom and a Hyrdo Thunder ish game Riptide Renegade which is great but off topic. There is more on the way for both systems new and old. It may not be as much as Genesis, Turbo16 or Saturn in the 90s but there is still plenty. I'd love to share my experiences if people are willing to share theirs with these systems with these genres.

I definitely need to check some of these games out. I only have Resogun, Nex Machina, Sky Force and Raiden V, but would love to try Sine Mora EX and Darius Burst next. The bad reviews for Matterfall put me off buying it even though I liked how it looked, what are your thoughts on it?

I was unaware it had bad reviews. It's a good game. My only issue is, the bosses can be a bit unforgiving. The music is great, controls as responsive. Really fun.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRrD9cQ4VaA

I picked up a PS4 not long ago since the shmup releases sort of reached a critical mass for me. Picked up Battle Garegga, Raiden V, Dariusburst CS, Game Paradise Criusin' Mix, Nex Machina and Wild Guns Reloaded.

Great to have an affordable port of Garegga finally, and handled by port experts M2 to boot. I'd never played the game before, and I'm convinced it lives up to it's reputation. M2 also have Sorcer Striker and Dangon Feveron as part of their Shotriggers range, of course.

DariusBurst is awesome, pretty much all I hoped it would be. Ton of modes, ships, and comprehensive archive content. Love the beam duels with bosses.

As for Nex Machina, just picked this up the other day and have been playing non-stop. It's an extremely well polished and attractive game - a shame Housmarque are done with arcade style stuff going forward.

It has some way to go before it touches the 360 in terms of shmup content, but I think the floodgates are starting to open.

I can pronounce shmup, but I can't do "shrmup". :p

Seriously, though. I agree. It also dawned on me the other day. There does seem to be a resurgence in the genre, and I'm loving it. I think it has to do with the willingness of Sony and Nintendo to allow more indy-style and smaller-budgetted titles. Last gen, it was all about the 360 and the PSP. I hope the trend continues.

P.S.> This gen I guess my favorite has been Ghost Blade HD. Here's to hoping we get an official US physical release. And none of that Play Asia nonsense.

I'm not going to get current consoles until they're dirt cheap, but I do want the Darius 30th Anniversary Edition more than any other newer releases.

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I'm not going to get current consoles until they're dirt cheap, but I do want the Darius 30th Anniversary Edition more than any other newer releases.

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Nah, you need this!


http://www.sega-16.com/forum/attachm...9&d=1518975641

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I can pronounce shmup, but I can't do "shrmup". :p

Seriously, though. I agree. It also dawned on me the other day. There does seem to be a resurgence in the genre, and I'm loving it. I think it has to do with the willingness of Sony and Nintendo to allow more indy-style and smaller-budgetted titles. Last gen, it was all about the 360 and the PSP. I hope the trend continues.

P.S.> This gen I guess my favorite has been Ghost Blade HD. Here's to hoping we get an official US physical release. And none of that Play Asia nonsense.

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What's wrong with the Play-Asia release? It's fully in English.

I totally agree on the PS4 thing.
My collection keeps getting bigger, I just need to get the console! :P

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Dude, how much cheaper does it need to get? Last black friday, the PS4 was $199, and the Xbone $179; both including games.

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What's wrong with the Play-Asia release? It's fully in English.

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I can list at least three thousand games in my backlog I've yet to beat, and at least three thousand more I don't yet own I would like to add to my collection physically. My collecting reach can only go so far. More power to you if you can afford to spread that much love. One game did escape me, though: I am Setsuna. Still, for the same price I could have gotten other equally awesome RPGs that got official US releases. And I did. ;)

I'm confused. Ghost Blade HD is $25 PS4 disc. It's not expensive at all. Even the CE which I got last year was $40 physical.

What's confusing about it?

Also, references, please. ;)

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What's confusing about it?

Also, references, please. ;)

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https://www.play-asia.com/ghost-blade-hd/13/70bs43

$25

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I totally agree on the PS4 thing.
My collection keeps getting bigger, I just need to get the console! :P

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I'm just starting to enter this point but am a long way before justifying the $400 for a Pro (which I'd insist given my 4K TV).

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Even the CE which I got last year was $40 physical.

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I wish it were still so. I'm looking at $120+ used on eBay. I guess it's not too hard to complain when the game is only $25, but I would have gladly paid an extra $15 to get the goodies on top of it.

this gen alone would've been great for the series if it was just Raiden & getting a copy (physical no less!) of Battle Garegga without having to harvest a kidney

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https://www.play-asia.com/ghost-blade-hd/13/70bs43

$25

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Very nice. Still wouldn't get it, though.

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Very nice. Still wouldn't get it, though.

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That makes no sense but whatever. Your loss.

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That makes no sense but whatever. Your loss.

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Makes perfect sense to me.

You want the game on physical disc. You want it affordable. There it is but you won't buy it because it's not sold directly in US retailers? yeah makes no sense.

I'm in two minds about Ghost Blade HD. The game looks pretty sedate even on HARD mode. It does look like a CAVE wannabe from the videos but seemingly without any real gimmick to spark interest.

Music's pretty good from what I've heard of it though.

Music is really good. Yeah, it's not an easy game. Mainly because you get limited lives/continues.

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You want the game on physical disc. You want it affordable. There it is but you won't buy it because it's not sold directly in US retailers? yeah makes no sense.

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None of what you just said amount to what I already explained to you are my collecting habbits. If I was up for buying every single game outside official US releases just because there exists a physical copy, I would have done so a long time ago. What it sounds like to me, you being so adamant that I must have this game over the 6 thousand plus other games already on my want list atop this one, is that you seem to want to buy me a second copy of Ghost Blade HD from PlayAsia. PM me for my address.

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I'm in two minds about Ghost Blade HD. The game looks pretty sedate even on HARD mode. It does look like a CAVE wannabe from the videos but seemingly without any real gimmick to spark interest.

Music's pretty good from what I've heard of it though.

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Yeah, the HD version is easy. It is best enjoyed in Hard mode.

No, it's just your explanation made literally no sense to me. It's an alright game but not my favorite by any means. You just say a lot of words but none of it is coming together. You never gave a reason why Play Asia version is so objectionable. You say you want it but say you won't because of Play Asia and 6 thousand games. Like huh!? yeah PS4 had a lot of games and we can't buy them all but you never answered why the Play Asia version is objectionable. You act like it must be a US retail release or bust and there is no logic in that when the game is there in English and affordable but because it's form Play Asia it's not acceptable for no reason other than PS4 has 6000 games....

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No, it's just your explanation made literally no sense to me. It's an alright game but not my favorite by any means. You just say a lot of words but none of it is coming together. You never gave a reason why Play Asia version is so objectionable. You say you want it but say you won't because of Play Asia and 6 thousand games. Like huh!? yeah PS4 had a lot of games and we can't buy them all but you never answered why the Play Asia version is objectionable. You act like it must be a US retail release or bust and there is no logic in that when the game is there in English and affordable but because it's form Play Asia it's not acceptable for no reason other than PS4 has 6000 games....

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I have said none of the nonsense you have chosen to blurt out. Please stay civil and accept others decisions in collecting goals, as different as they may be from yours. I have tried to make light of your intolerant lack of empathy. I have not once explained to you why I chose to collect thusly, nor do I need to. But you seem to be listening with hands pressed against your ears. I accept and respect your buying decisons. I have my own. Now lets move on.

BTW, welcome to Sega-16. Try not to come off too much like Thief.

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I have said none of the nonsense you have chosen to blurt out. Please stay civil and accept others decisions in collecting goals, as different as they may be from yours. I have tried to make light of your intolerant lack of empathy. I have not once explained to you why I chose to collect thusly, nor do I need to. But you seem to be listening with hands pressed against your ears. I accept and respect your buying decisons. I have my own. Now lets move on.

BTW, welcome to Sega-16. Try not to come off too much like Thief.

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No, you are misunderstanding me. I have no malice. I'm just trying to understand your comment. I couldn't care less what you buy but trying to make sense in that you want the game but won't accept Play Asia specifically. I'm just trying to figure out that comment. I'm as calm as a gentle breeze but my mental issues people misunderstand my intentions as I'm not sure how to socialize very well. You are taking it as you better buy what I buy with my comments, that's not it at all. You specifically targeted Play Asia. With "none of that Play Asia nonsense." That comment has malice towards Play Asia themselves. I asked why and your answer was there is a lot of games to buy..ok fine but has nothing to dow with the question I asked, maybe I didn't word it well enough so if so I'm sorry. There is a lot of games to buy. But you never answered why Play Asia version is nonsense. So you keep coming across as I want it but my way or bust and that attitude just seemed a bit weird to me. That comment looks like you find something wrong specifically with the Play Asia release..not that there are too many games to buy. That is where the confusion is.

I'm only trying to clear the confusion of the comment not that I'm demanding you purchase it. WTF!? lol I'd never do that...who does that!?

Ok. It's all good. I'll try and be more elaborate:
I have nothing at all against Play Asia. And I most definitely meant no "malice", as you suggest, against it. If you've been here at Sega-16 as long as some of us have, you probably would've gotten the joke, as it was meant to be aimed at oncoming remarks such as the one you made, for that is how it has always been with new folks.

You have to understand that some of us made our collecting goals, habits and decisions a very long time ago. If it was for me, once again, and money was not an issue, I probably would buy almost every game out there. For me, specifically, my goal is to one day finish the entire U.S. Sega console/handheld library. And, along the way, add every US release from other systems that catches my fancy in between. Some other folks have similar goals, but different aims, etc. I don't presume to know anybody else's. But I know mine very well and I stick to it. It's called discipline.

As for the game, I got it for free last Holiday from Sony. I have played it more times than any other shmup in my life, and likely more than anybody else in this forum. I know it like the back of my hand and I love it. But I still see zero need for me to spend even $25 when that's like 4 or 5 more Game Gear games I want and don't yet own. Especially since I already own the game. Catch my drift?

I also don't buy anything digital only. But free is free. I've had similar discussions with folks here regarding that. But it's good to know you're now open to accepting other's collecting choices for a change.

Again. Nothing against Play Asia. I have games from them. But these were gifts or Dreamcast games I wanted for my collection (part of my specific, unique, personal goals).

Thank you. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I'd rep ya but says I need to rep more people.

Star Force out on Switch next week. Quartet Fighters is out now.