millions of dollars in just 24 hours for a shit system.
imagine how people would be supporting and raising money for a new sega system. making a system with the power of the switch is easy and cheap as hell and it could play all sega games in history (with online support and gameplay) as well as newer games. now that the atari vcs somehow has a lot of people being hyped for it I think sega should try their hand soon.
So did Ouya. Atari VCS will flop hard. People don't get Atari doesn't exist. Atari has been sold so many times as a brand. The company shut down decades ago. Atari is not making consoles again. Whoever owns the brand is just trying to bank on Nostalgia...You can buy the Atari Flashback console which has a bunch of games on it for less than a 100$. This think is 250 bucks and that only comes with the Atari Joystick. 300 bucks if you want the modern controller. What games does this thing play? Android games..again like Ouya. This thing is just a more expensive Ouya and guess what Ouya without a known brand raised more money. 8.5 million. SEGA somewhat exists. Sure they are owned by Sammy but overall same company. Will SEGA do one of these? Fuck no. They are not that stupid. Sure they are dumb for sticking with Atgames but not stupid enough to make a $300 Android machine. SEGA still makes new games for modern systems. More profitable for them to release the Genesis collection on modern systems and SEGA Ages on Switch and just some cheapo flashback system. Little risk and big reward. Whoever has the Atari brand(I think it's a French company, far cry from it's US beginnings)...this is a massive risk and very likely little reward after initial interest by enthusiasts. Should be obvious. This thing is already dead despite a nice chunk of change. Look no further than Ouya.
I wouldn't even pay for these consoles and games, knowing that none of the original developers will profit from this. Used consoles and game copies on Ebay is the way to go.
Also, when I got a used game, I feel it's fair to use the said game ROM with any emulation box of my choice.
they will with these consoles, as well as the mini systems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orchid87
Ah, Sega-16. Another week, another "Is Sega thinking about a new console?" thread.
No, they aren't. Even if they did, they don't have the talent to put out many decent games anymore, and it would suck hard. Keep playing your Genesis, Saturn, and Dreamcast since they still kick ass.
Barring some totally unforeseen event, there is no way in hell Sega will release a new home console. It's completely at odds with the direction the company has taken.
I don't get why people want current SEGA in this current market to release a console. Be the dumbest decision and be one of the best lessons to be careful what you wish for. If SEGA was going to release an actual new console at the time was 2005-2006. The only thing they could do and even this the time has passed but partner with MS as MS does the hardware and SEGA becomes exclusive to them but the time for that was the original Xbox.
If it's anything like the Atari VCS, count me out. It will only be detrimental to the brand.
Great post. These micro-consoles have no market, no one cares about them. I think the most successful micro-console in the Nvidia Shield, and that has only sold like a couple million.Quote:
Originally Posted by SegataS
Sega should just make hella games for atari VCS lol
I wish Sega would actually do something on that system as the support for it is complete ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yharnamresident
Even the "Atari" many here might know from a certain point in the 1980's wasn't even Atari either. Maybe Nolan was smart to get out or shall I say maybe he was smart to sell a potion of the company and then shown the door.
The original atari hasn’t existed since 1979. The fact they’re a whored out company is part of the charm of Atari lol
1984. 1984 is when the original Atari closed down.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlecRob
The success of the Atari VCS is based on a very smart marketing. They've gone so far as to take out Google Ads so its easy to find their Indiegogo campaign. I find it very surprising that considering how much bad publicity this device has received, there are over 9,000 people who decided to invest in the product.Quote:
Originally Posted by bultje112
... And to answer the OP's question, no. SEGA's main focus should be to repair their brand by continuing to release quality games and smart acquisitions.
It would be good to see a new console competitor though, its only been Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo since 2001. There are tons of companies that have the financial ability to compete.
If one enters then one has to bow out. It's already crowded and every time there are 3 in the race one typically suffers. Right now it's XBO and before it was Wii U.Quote:
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But theres only 2 conventional consoles, like no one debates between getting a PS4 and a Switch because their purposes are very different. Though the Wii U was a conventional console IMO.
Also think of something spiffy for your 1000th post.
Despite all the hype, the Atari VCS campaign still has less than 10,000 backers at this point.
There's no platform with such a low number of users.
IMO it has to reach something around 50,000-100,000 backers for this to become a thing worth talking about. If you're starting with 100,000 users, then you can try to build something around it, maybe beef up the specs a little bit (4 GB of RAM for 2019? No, thanks.) prior to production and go from there to try to reach a million units and only then you may/may not become a needle mover.
IDK what kinds of plans Atari has for this, but for the sake of the backers I hope they manage to run a bigger pre-order campaign for this with some major partnership (let's say Amazon) by the end of 2018.
Otherwise I see this being forgotten real fast, especially 'cause by the time of its actual release (July 2019) it's very possible that we'll have the likes of Raspberry Pi 4 available and it would affect one of the potential market niches of the Atari VCS (Linux-based emulation boxes).
Switch and PS4 are selling the best and Xbox selling the worst. By years end NSW will likely be on the part if not surpassed XBO sales. I have seen people even on ERA ask that if they should just get one or the other. Again 18 million in 12 months and expected to sell 20 million on a conservative prediction by this fiscal year's end. PS4 is still steady every month and Xbox is lagging way behind.3 is a crowd. 4 is impossible. Meh on 1000th post. This is like the 463rd time I reached a thousand posts somewhere.Quote:
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I essentially agree, but at least its DDR4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barone
But I meant the powerhouse market. Like no one will purchase a Switch to test out their 60" TV or 7.1 surround, like they would with a PS4 or Xbone. Or for Blu-ray/DVD playback. Its in the hybrid market, and the only competitor as far I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by SegataS
Anyways, I lost interest in this project once they announced its gonna be crowdfunded. That just means they have no faith in it, they don't wanna be financially screwed if it bombs. This thing is a disgraceful, nostalgia bait dumpster fire.
Fatman speaks the truth.
Yeah he's actually right on this aspect. Over 2 million for a system with zero games to show for it. I didn't think that many damn retards existed....
Y'all are wrong it has the most killer app new game to come this year!
It showed this game! better looking than God of War. More iconic than a Ubisoft game or Nintendo game! More cinematic than David Cage's Emotions at a film festival! \
It's THIS GAME!
https://s33.postimg.cc/cossub9nz/atari.jpg
Check that shit out yo! So graphically demanding like a Vita indie game!
Steam Boxes tried that. Look how well it turned out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yharnamresident
And look for anyone who seriously got offended at the word "Retard", You need to relax. I'm calling it what it is by my own definition because who blows that much money into a system with 0 software or anything else to show for it other then a logo and a crappy Joystick? So please stop being so damn sensitive.
This thing is going to fail and fail hard. I'm sorry if you spent money on this but you're an idiot if you did. The only reason I can see someone buying this is just for collectible's sake and that is it. They're literally asking damn near the price of a PS4 Pro for the full package and in this day and age especially after the Coleco bullshit, you'd think people would have learned.
Who got offended at retard? lol I had a sister who was retarded. I used the term all the time. Retard literally just means slow/delayed development. She was clinically labeled retarded in the 70s. It's not a slang term. So it's funny if someone is offended at the word.
https://is.gd/8D1qp7Quote:
Originally Posted by BonusKun
The Steam Machines had no chance of succeeding, they were insanely overpriced and too many hardware variations. Also if you want to break into the console market, then physical media has to be a feature.Quote:
Originally Posted by SegataS
I don't think its wrong to call someone a retard when its justifiable. Its just when people use it as a blank insult like so many other ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonusKun
MrMatthews doesn't like that word and I see no problem honoring him that respect. When you think about it, any and all swear words shouldn't be used. If for anything that they contribute to negative vibrations whether you use them against someone or they used against you. Nobody wins.
You should hear what people say about each other where I work! I've heard things that would make a whore blush.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief
To me in this case there really isn't another word to use which so easily describes that many people buying into a piece of vaporware. In this day and age when so many people especially in crowd funding campaigns have ripped people off of their money, you'd have to be seriously slow on the uptake these days to not see this reeks of a bad idea. I feel sorry for anyone who supported this thing. It's going to end terribly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yharnamresident
@ Thief, This isn't a place where I'm going to police anyone's words. Unless it's a direct insult to someone here then I don't care what people say to each other. It's not on me to worry about yours or anyone else's feelings so stop with the virtue signaling. We're all adults here and this place isn't a "Safe Space" as much as you'd want it to be.
@Mega, I hear a lot of shit at my job also and honestly it doesn't effect me or the people I work with since we all know it's just bullshit. One guy I work with and his friend who see each other all the time usually go with "What's up you son of a bitch?", They laugh about it all the time because it's between them and that's all there is to it. If some people get offended at words so easily all the time like that then take a step back and realize that stuff like that isn't directed at them. Some folks have a hard time disconnecting themselves from wanting to interject their being offended at everything to people.
It's one of the main reasons I'd like to see Social Media take a swan dive into an incinerator. It gives people a voice to get angry and offended at everything.
@Barone, The way the world is going these days I can see that happening. :( lol
Uh oh. The word "retard" is commonly used in engine terminology. I.E. A brake retarder, retard the timing, etc.., Christ almighty people.
Didn't say police anyone's words, just gave my two cents on the matter. Up to everyone else to make their own decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonusKun
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Originally Posted by Thief
This is called Virtue Signalling. You're trying to speak for someone else's feelings instead of your own.Quote:
MrMatthews doesn't like that word and I see no problem honoring him that respect.
Back on topic:
This campaign is so shitty and gimmicky at the same time.
Until this morning they had the Atari VCS™ Onyx Early Bird option time limited up until lunch time but with more than 24,000 units available.
So it should have been ended by now, right?! Wrong. It's still available but now with "Only 189 left". Lol.
By the way, the campaign has already stagnated and didn't even reach 10,000 backers.
Those are my feelings.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonusKun
It's the internet no one cares about anyone's feelings. Unless it's pictures of kittens.
It's funny how the only bundle to come with a modern controller is slightly less than a PS4 Pro and $40 more than a Switch.
When I saw the Atari VCS/Ataribox first talked about I thought it was a stupid idea that was merely a cynical "retro" cash in on the popularity of Nintendo's rip off shit boxes. Still think the same. As for Sega building consoles again I LOLed I honestly thought that either MrSega or that moron Semmy had hijacked bultje112's account when I saw that thread title. :lol:
And "smoking-retarded" rugs. Which means they are fireproof.Quote:
Originally Posted by JCU
And you don't wanna dare compare the specs of this thing to the PS4 Pro's.Quote:
Originally Posted by SegataS
Anyways, I was watching Dreamcastguy and he mentioned something I was thinking but didn't know how to put it into words. The crowd-funding goal was only $100,000, theres no way you can create and sell a console with that low amount of money. This means they already had enough money to fund this project, and the crowd-funding campaign is being used for a different purpose. Maybe they couldn't figure out how to make their own online pre-order store, so they used Indiegogo?