PC gaming is a hassle and don't know how people prefer it.

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Originally Posted by CrossBow

So yeah, I would say it is much easier today to PC game than it really ever has been.

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Totally agree, with DOS you had to spend a lot of time to configure your memory to get the most out of it. or work with boot disks. (and while I personally enjoyed it I can see how it might be too difficult for the average person)
And Windows 95 and 98 are just unstable in ways, I've recently rebuild a Win98 pc and I had this thought that with all my new knowledge win9x gaming would be easy!
well, .. no. not really, I mostly spend a lot of time googling for solutions to the BSODs. (which are all still solvable, but still require a lot of tinkering).

And then there's the XP era, which while more stable still had its many quirks. not to mention I'd often bump into limitations when it came to video editing and that kinda stuff.

Yeah, this is truly the easiest era in personal computing. (though to be honest the Atari ST/Amiga era was simple too, but not C64 or MSX though)


Edit : Although currently I feel that we're reaching baby levels when it comes to ease of use, with Windows moving more and more towards baby's first android tablet kinda look.
A couple more years and computers will be nothing but simple touch buttons on the screen that directly bring you to your favorite bullshit social media site, and don't attempt to pirate anything..
Because the fedz will pretty much have a synced backup of your drive at any time and scanners checking filenames and comparing hashes so you can't hide your illegal music anymore.
But hey, computers were too difficult! we needed this hand holding. https://www.shareicon.net/data/32x32...le_512x512.png

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Originally Posted by SegataS

I get PC's are more powerful and all. That's nice but they are a bitch when it comes to getting games to run without problems. Yesterday I spent hours trying to get a bunch of games working for various reasons. Gears of War 4 is buggy on PC that for many won't get past the splash screen. I never did get it to work. Binary Domain control support is fucked so you have to edit its files directly and even that only stays temp. I can't turn off rumble either which for whatever reason forces the aiming to drift when it rumbles. Then I had Binary Domain tell me I had an invalid GPU. Well to fix that I have to manually select my GPU in the configure mode. Same issue with Gun Metal. Asphalt 9 would not get past the splash screen at one point. So I had to reset the app and even then despite calibrating the XBO pad it had major drift and in Killer Instinct the Dpad was going nuts. Gears so-called "fix" wanted me to edit shit in the registry. Like I said I eventually gave up trying to get Gears to work. I got Binary Domain to work until I closed the game and restarted and realized I have to go into the files and reset the controls every time I want to play it. Everything else I got working again. I have never been a serious PC gamer but have been playing on them since about 2004 and on Steam since 2008. Always had issues with PC game. In fact, not just me watching Nathan Barnatt on a steam one night trying to get Genesis roms to work with his capture devices was more entertaining than the games. He never did get it working and chat had a million suggestions.

How do people put up with PC gaming so much? Master Pain in the ass, not Master Race. When it works I like it but that's the problem. It rarely works as it should. That's a big factor that prevented me from being more into it. I will never forget my troubles getting PSO2 to work and now with a new PC, I just accepted I lost my PSO2 account as I do not want to set that all up again. I will remain console first because when I put my game in, it typically works as intended without the hassle. Lastly with the exception of a first-person game. I just find a controller as a better input device.

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yes and this has always been with pc gaming and it never got any better either (at least until around 2004 when I stopped).

I used to be pc gamer until early 2000s (2004) when I just gave up. the best games were on consoles anyway (often exclusive) and I was tired of changing pc's having all kinds of run errors, nothing makes sense with pc's. consoles is 100% convenience and the older I got the less I care about meddling with hardware instead of playing games

I use playstation vr. not because I can't afford pc vr (pc gamers always love to talk about money since half the time their games aren't even working), but because ps vr is the way it is. you have a pro and a vr that's it. when I read upon pc vr 95% of the forum talk isn't about gameplay or games, but about what settings are required here, or what can solve a certain problem. what a waste of time!

My problem isn’t with the drivers. It’s just that every time windows updates, it defaults the sound to the display connected to the television on my rig in the living room and to my graphics card in my office PC.


Why haven’t you overclocked that 2500k Beltje112? I’ve had mine @4.7Ghz on air since 2012 and it never ran hot.

I started out my gaming life with Basic and having to type to load up a game on my old ZX Spectrum Micro Computer in 1985 And for me comparing consoles is to today's PC is a little like comparing an Amiga to a Mega Drive. Current PC's are much easier, but unlike with my console,I can't power up my PC with just a push of a button on a joypad or even load a game up via nothing more than a Joypad, like I can on my XBox One X or PS4 Pro. Have to start the PC up the old way and 9 times out of 10, to load a game up via the keyboard and mouse, before I can start to use my 360 pad on the PC, that's before one tries to confinger the game to run the best on ones set up.


Its a hell of a lot easier and better than before, but its still not as easy as it is with the consoles. That is not a dig, but the difference between the formats and why is called a PC and the other a console

I like the fact that with an SSD, you’re playing a game on PC in under a minute and when you die, you’re instantly back at the last check point. The PS4 won’t load much faster with an SSD in 90% of the scenarios, because of the limitations of the hardware.

^ Unless it's Re-core. Load times even on PC are quite terrible.

No.

I was playing Crysis 2 this weekend and when I died, I could instantly spawn back. The game loads in under a minute from an SSD. The game would take about 3 minutes to load from an HDD.

Just saying Re-core has bad load times no matter what. Some games are just optimized badly but generally I agree. Getting into a game is instant. Pretty great.

What’s a Recore?

I wanted to put an SSD in my PS3 and PS4. According to reviews, they didn’t load much quicker because of the data bus.

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Originally Posted by gamevet

I like the fact that with an SSD, you’re playing a game on PC in under a minute and when you die, you’re instantly back at the last check point. The PS4 won’t load much faster with an SSD in 90% of the scenarios, because of the limitations of the hardware.

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It depends on the game Some PC games have to reload data after one is dead. I have 230 GB SSD for my PC, But I just only use it for the odd PC game and windows, everything else goes on the 3 TB Harddrive for the PC.

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Originally Posted by gamevet

What’s a Recore?

I wanted to put an SSD in my PS3 and PS4. According to reviews, they didn’t load much quicker because of the data bus.

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Re-core is a game that is exclusive to Xbox/PC from former Metroid Prime developers. Zelda ish with some Metroid elements. Setting feels like Rey from Star Wars before the movies.

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Originally Posted by Team Andromeda

It depends on the game Some PC games have to reload data after one is dead. I have 230 GB SSD for my PC, But I just only use it for the odd PC game and windows, everything else goes on the 3 TB Harddrive for the PC.

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My games on the living room PC are on small 500GB (7200 RPM) HDDs. They take forever to download compared to the same games on the office PC loads really fast. I can’t imagine how fast those PCI-E SSDs are. They run somewhere @1GBps, while my fastest SSD is around 550MBps.

I have had zero problems with a "modern" PC playing just Steam games.

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Originally Posted by gamevet

Why haven’t you overclocked that 2500k Beltje112? I’ve had mine @4.7Ghz on air since 2012 and it never ran hot.

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Did you actually mean to direct that to me since I stated I have a 2500k? The stock speed is only 3.2 - 3.6. Mine has never ran stable above the 4.2 mark on air and only does so with the water cooling I have on it. Even then, it still hit about 72 Celsius under prime 95. I just didn't win that lottery on the good CPU in my case. It used to run at 4.2 solid until I updated the Bios finally on my mainboard about 3 years ago when I toyed with the idea of putting a slightly faster Ivy processor into it. Turns out that bios update isn't reversible and I didn't find out until much later, that it also apparently kills the overclock ability of the sandybridge procs. I'm lucky I can get mine back to at least 4.2 for light single core tasks. It drops to 3.8 no matter what I do or how much voltage I kick at it when all 4 cores are active. I currently have it running at like 1.32v to keep it stable where it is. I need to up fully upgrade as my mobo is 7 years old, I have it maxed on the ram with only 16gb at 1600mhz.

But I keep it moving along at a decent pace with the 120gb SSD as my boot OS drive and my 500gb Raid 1 SSDs I put the high end games on. I also have 2 older 1TB WD black caviar drives in a Raid 1 setup as well with most of the other games and video editing..etc residing on those. Just had to replace both of those recently when one of them started to fail. Luckily I caught it before complete failure so I was able to keep all my data.

Anyway, PC gaming I felt was more interesting and more of a true hobby in the DOS era when we did have to tinker with them more often. Now...using my computer at home or playing a game on it isn't quite as interesting. That is why I was so excited when I found DosBOX and finally got me an MT-32 and my sound canvas modules. Took me a bit back to that era making it all work and playing some old school Sierra adventures...

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Originally Posted by Tripredacus

I have had zero problems with a "modern" PC playing just Steam games.

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Yeah, complaining about pc gaming being difficult these days says more about the user than the pc platform.
though for some games like Fallout 3 I just enjoy sitting on my couch and not having to do more than turn on the console and just play for hours.
only to discover that Bethesda fucked up and the game runs like shit once your savegame reaches a certain filesize, something that would never happen on a PC.
and if it did the fans would fix it themselves.

Console = Comfort
PC = Flexibility