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Repounding? Never seen anyone so poor at proof-checking.
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I don't get why you act, like somehow this thread is only about you as a PC gamer. I simply made the point that 500 Gigs isn't a lot, which is not for todays games . RE 7 on the PC needs 50 GIGs of HD for install, Forza 3 Horizon needs 55 Gigs for install. So for just 2 general games, that's already over 100 Gigs needed. That's my point and yes before you say it... YES, its no better on the consoles either.
It wasn’t about me as a PC Gamer. You turned it into you as a console gamer, TBH. And speaking of real PC Gamer, as you put it. A real PC Gamer would be smart enough to know that you don’t need 100 games sitting on your storage drive, when everything is stored in the cloud and can be downloaded in less time than a large update. It just takes a lot longer for the goober with a large HDD, because of the excruciatingly slow write times.
Huh? That was what the thread was about and how PC gaming was more hassle than console gaming.. but never mind.
Again all about you... What about the PC gamers who live in area's where BB speeds are utter rubbish. You may change ones tune if you had just 2.5 meg downloads speeds and needed to reinstall various Steam or Origin games.Quote:
A real PC Gamer would be smart enough to know that you don’t need 100 games sitting on your storage drive, when everything is stored in the cloud and can be downloaded in less time than a large update
No, I said that I much prefer the speed of SSD storage on PC, over the slow speeds of HDD storage. You then came up with people needing massive amounts of storage space for all of their games and that it would be too expensive with SSD. You're slow ass 6TB HDD was just fine in your eyes.
My dad dad lives 5 miles from a really small town in Montana. He has 8Mb broadband, even though he literally lives in the sticks. Using the excuse of broadband speed as a need to have all of your games on one massive slow HDD (that will eventually fail) is grasping at straws. SSD all the way!Quote:
Again all about you... What about the PC gamers who live in area's where BB speeds are utter rubbish. You may change ones tune if you had just 2.5 meg downloads speeds and needed to reinstall various Steam or Origin games.
I just said 500 Gigs isn't a lot these days. You seemed to take that as some sort of attack on you. I would just say that I'm willing to bet that 500 Gigs isn't enough for gamers on the PC or consoles these days. Load times only really bother me in games like Dark Souls series where after you die, loading is needed.
Given I started with Zx Spectrum where games took like 5 mins to load, I can handle the load times of today's systems.
Try living in Rual Wales and where one gets 1.5 MB per second, 2.5 MB if one is lucky.... One might so keen to just download games they fancy to play then and a lot of parts of Rural Wales BB itself is a dream. I like having a collection of games on the HD ready to play on the PC and consoles. Its just so much easier and convenient, also why I love the EverDrive for the N64, Snes and MD; All the games in single SD card, just much easier and simple. Same goes for the PC, just like having most of the games installed on the HD ready to play when I want too .Quote:
My dad dad lives 5 miles from a really small town in Montana. He has 8Mb broadband, even though he literally lives in the sticks
For me its more about convenience that anything to do with Broadband speed.
The biggest hassle that I find on PC gaming is DRM, and in turn, the catalogue available without it. I miss the days when you actually owned the copies you bought and you didn't have to install third party software, call a server and finally play the game.
The consoles are heading in that direction. I can’t even play Resistance 3, because it requires a patch that won’t work on some PS3s and even then, you have to pull some trickery to make it work.
No, you chose to focus on that 500GB HDD that I was using as an example of just how slow an HDD is, in comparison to an SSD. Like I've said before, a 500GB HDD is going to be much faster than a 6TB HDD, because the larger drive has more platters to search through to find your games. The seek times are abysmal, and certainly not worth having for the convenience of having all of your games in your computer.
Of course it isn't enough. I pulled the 500GB HDD (5400 RPM) out of my PS4 and replaced it with an Hitachi (7200 RPM) 1TB drive.Quote:
I would just say that I'm willing to bet that 500 Gigs isn't enough for gamers on the PC or consoles these days. Load times only really bother me in games like Dark Souls series where after you die, loading is needed.
Yeah and I grew up with cassette tapes on the Tandy CoCo and floppies on the C64. You're continuing to trail off to something else.Quote:
Given I started with Zx Spectrum where games took like 5 mins to load, I can handle the load times of today's systems.
You do realize that 1.5MB is equal to what internet providers would advertise as 12Mb, right? When I had 30Mb internet, I often mistook that I was only getting 4mbps, until I actually took the time to notice the download speeds were being shown in Mega-Bytes.Quote:
Try living in Rual Wales and where one gets 1.5 MB per second, 2.5 MB if one is lucky.... One might so keen to just download games they fancy to play then and a lot of parts of Rural Wales BB itself is a dream. I like having a collection of games on the HD ready to play on the PC and consoles. Its just so much easier and convenient, also why I love the EverDrive for the N64, Snes and MD; All the games in single SD card, just much easier and simple. Same goes for the PC, just like having most of the games installed on the HD ready to play when I want too .
For me its more about convenience that anything to do with Broadband speed.
It's great you want the convenience of trying to have all of your PC games on a single storage medium. I much prefer that when I click on a title that I'm playing it in under 30 seconds.
And most PC gamers could get away with a 1TB SSD for less than $140. They could easily fit around 30 major titles on a drive of that size. http://www.microcenter.com/product/5...id-state-drive
You forget to mention that hard disks are also a lot more sensitive to noise nowadays (precisely because of how tiny the bits are, so even a very minimal amount of vibration is enough to throw it off). We're at the point where merely screaming can be enough to cause a hard disk to throw errors and to need to retry. I suppose we're reaching the point where hard disks won't be able to grow much bigger anymore.
Also Flash memory has improved over time and should be more resistant to wear nowadays (the "10,000 write cycles" claim is outdated). As far as I can tell, they're more likely to die from a firmware bug (ugh) than from wearing out.
Mind you, I'd really love if people would stop making huge files for starters >_> Even relatively small images are consistently clocking in at over 1MB what the fuck? At this rate BMP will become fashionable again.
Yeah, HDDs have a much higher failure rate, while an SSD can have a few corrupt areas and still run just fine. SSDs constantly move files around to reduce the wear on one part of the memory and should never be filled beyond 90%, so that they can keep all of your files safe. Meanwhile, the fuller an HDD gets, the slower it is at loading files, and once the main platter fails, everything fails. https://www.networkworld.com/article...ssd-myths.html
I'm predicting that by 2020, a 2TB SSD will cost around $140.