DF Retro: Contra 3 - The Alien Wars! Sublime 16-Bit Shooting!

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Originally Posted by Vludi

"I'm saying the truth, I swear I'm not being delusional denying real game features and revisions, putting false statements in the mouth of others or creating imaginary communities to validate myself!"
t'was a pleasure. Just gonna reply to the Ghouls 'n Ghost thing: diagonal issue was never relevant on the arcade, enemy count is the same and you can't change direction when crouching, keep lyin'.
Oh, and people who are really into shmup usually don't give a shit about consoles and mostly play arcades/mame, just for you to know.

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Shameful attitude, I'm impressed so far that you're going to try to create a character for me and try to force your opinion.
Your illusion is to try to think that you are the king of the universe and only your opinion counts. And yes there is a great community about shmups,
if you get out of your bubble and search for and you will find, among them several lists with the best games of the genre
where are included several games of Mega Drive and PCEngine.

About G ' n G thing.. i make a mistake because i was thinking that's MD version that's bring this new feature, but it comes on Snes version..
what made the game even more easier.. cool no?

And all the bullshit and lies have come out of your own mouth,
just look at your creations of false terms that you impose on me and are not in any of my comments.
It is sad to see such a childish attitude repeated over and over again.

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Originally Posted by profholt82

Gentlemen, please. III and Hardcorps are both good games in their own right, but they both suck compared to the original Contra on NES.

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I tried that already, it doesn’t get a reaction out of them. :?

My son and i have already won 4 HC finals, obviously for being a 7 year old boy, our version of choice was Japanese, he loves the game. When playing Contra 3, i thought he would have the same love for, but when we arrives in the mode 7 level he hates, it's really curious, for us was the apex of technology, for him it is nothing more than an exotic and boring effect.

What does he think of Vector graphics?

Contra Hard Corps is a pretty static experience, once you know what to do in a given section you stop getting killed pretty quickly. You obviously can't make many execution mistakes in the US version, but the fact that it's so memo heavy makes it a lot tamer in the end.

It's actually the thing I like least about it, the lack of random elements. The first four or five stages stages just feels a bit like going through the motions after a while TBH. After years of preferring HC I think I'm starting to prefer Gunstar Heroes' kinetic action again, despite the dice maze. Hard feels like a good difficulty for Gunstar actually, anything more feels like there might be some undodgeable stuff in there - normal seems too sparse for the spirit of the game.

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Originally Posted by Pyron

Shameful attitude, I'm impressed so far that you're going to try to create a character for me and try to force your opinion.
Your illusion is to try to think that you are the king of the universe and only your opinion counts. And yes there is a great community about shmups,
if you get out of your bubble and search for and you will find, among them several lists with the best games of the genre
where are included several games of Mega Drive and PCEngine.

About G ' n G thing.. i make a mistake because i was thinking that's MD version that's bring this new feature, but it comes on Snes version..
what made the game even more easier.. cool no?

And all the bullshit and lies have come out of your own mouth,
just look at your creations of false terms that you impose on me and are not in any of my comments.
It is sad to see such a childish attitude repeated over and over again.

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Originally Posted by Vludi

"I'm saying the truth, I swear I'm not being delusional denying real game features and revisions, putting false statements in the mouth of others or creating imaginary communities to validate myself!"
t'was a pleasure. Just gonna reply to the Ghouls 'n Ghost thing: diagonal issue was never relevant on the arcade, enemy count is the same and you can't change direction when crouching, keep lyin'.
Oh, and people who are really into shmup usually don't give a shit about consoles and mostly play arcades/mame, just for you to know.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YYmS7NL3Po

To my shame I haven't got to play Contra III for more than a few minutes in the past, I really need to rectify that. I already know from watching some runs on YT to reacquaint myself that the atmosphere and soundtrack are badass, and capture the insanity of the setting perfectly. The intro depicting Bill and Lance 'Let's attack aggressively'! as well as the cutscenes between levels are awesome. The MD game, as masterful as it is in a technical/spritework/sound FX aspect, just isn't as epic. I'm not as enamoured with the idea of the overhead stages, which do seem to get a bad rap by folks on the internet.

Factor 5 were obviously impressed with Contra III, since there are several familiar elements that show up in Mega/Super Turrican. And of course the direction they took with Super Turrican 2.

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Originally Posted by OverDrone

I'm not as enamoured with the idea of the overhead stages, which do seem to get a bad rap by folks on the internet.

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They are pretty much a lite version of Namco's classic Assault, not as gripping but still solid, I certainly disagree with them just being a "graphical gimmick" because they aren't. CV4's rotating room, now that's a gimmick.

I've been trying to play through Operation C on the original game boy. Man now that's a really great game that feels very true to the original. They did a great job on the music, sounds great and has that sort of OG gameboy sounding twang to it. I like the overhead levels way more than Contra 3's.

I also picked up Contra 4 recently (playing it on my new 3ds XL). I like the game, however I must admit that I got my ass handed to me the first few times I tried it. I'm starting to memorize it now though, but man I was really not expecting it to be so challenging right out the gate.

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Originally Posted by Dirt Ball Gamer

I also picked up Contra 4 recently (playing it on my new 3ds XL). I like the game, however I must admit that I got my ass handed to me the first few times I tried it. I'm starting to memorize it now though, but man I was really not expecting it to be so challenging right out the gate.

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I've tried it some years ago and i love it, amazing pixel art and they brings back the 3d tunnels like the original, but i can't keep playing it because i feel some pain in the hands after some time in these portable consoles.. is not confortable enough also i get confused sometimes with 2 screens. I have hope that konami makes some colletction in the future with all these games in another console.

Nothing beats Contra III in the games series for me. When it comes to Mega Drive run and guns games I liked Rolling Thunder and Eswat far more and have to say that my fav MD run and gun game is MERCS which is an overlooked and underrated MD gem of a game and for me even better than the Arcade game (bar the multiplayer)

MERCS is definitely up there, Original mode is a heavy duty arrange version of the game on par with Slap Fight MD's Special mode, accompanied by an entirely new soundtrack.

Speaking of run 'n guns I love the Midnight Resistance port as well. The boss where you shoot down a whole squadron of fighter jets against a blazing sunset is IMO one of the best set pieces in a 16-bit action game. It doesn't hurt that it has that glorious Hitoshi Sakimoto arranged soundtrack either.

ESWAT isn’t a run n’ gun game. It’s an action platformer.

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Originally Posted by OverDrone

MERCS is definitely up there, Original mode is a heavy duty arrange version of the game on par with Slap Fight MD's Special mode, accompanied by an entirely new soundtrack.

Speaking of run 'n guns I love the Midnight Resistance port as well. The boss where you shoot down a whole squadron of fighter jets against a blazing sunset is IMO one of the best set pieces in a 16-bit action game. It doesn't hurt that it has that glorious Hitoshi Sakimoto arranged soundtrack either.

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Midnight Resistance have infinite replay value for me, because the soundtrack is amazing, the best of the games cited here for me.. its absoluting amazing!

I don’t like the rotating gun in Midnight Resistance. It was a really poor design decision. I need to get a copy of MERCS.