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Google Stadia: Onlive 2.0 (Official Thread)
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The console will be super cheap and stream free games. but they'll be created in such a way that google discovers what kinda person you are to make organized advertising better.
>play skyrim
>oh dragonborn, you have saved the village
>as a gift you can choose between this gold or diamond sword, also which cola do you want? coke or pepsi?
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Microsoft had a strong presence in PC gaming in the 90s from games to joysticks. Sony published games on consoles & made the SNES sound chip plus learned from the CD add on with Nintendo. MS tried to Buy SEGA & Nintendo. They at least had a segway into the consoles. What does Google have? Sorry Android store doesn't cut it. MS came in just as SEGA was leaving the hardware business, many SEGA fans migrated over to Xbox since it had DC ports and sequels. I remember hearing about MS entering console gaming and thought, yeah it makes sense esp after Windows CE was on Dreamcast. Sony entered as Nintendo & SEGA fucked up their systems. The market can barely contain 3 systems. MS, Sony & Nintendo are not leaving the console space anytime soon. So Google doesn't really have a spot to fill. What can they really offer? Sony & MS still made sense back then. :daze:
Also, Google has a bad habit of abandoning things after a year or 2.
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"Rumored" meaning some guy on Youtube said something without a shred of evidence.
The links posted suggest that this will be a streaming device - streaming game play that is running on Google's servers.
Google doesn't have a good track record when it comes to hardware. They seem quick to abandon things. At least, that's my impression.
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Kotaku article from June 2018 - Sources: Google Is Planning A Game Platform That Could Take On Xbox And PlayStation
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Over the past few months, the wildest rumors in video game industry circles haven’t involved the PlayStation 5 or Xbox Two. The most interesting chatter has centered on a tech company that’s been quietly making moves to tackle video games in a big way: Google, the conglomerate that operates our email, our internet browsers, and much more.
We haven’t heard many specifics about Google’s video game plans, but what we have heard is that it’s a three-pronged approach: 1) Some sort of streaming platform, 2) some sort of hardware, and 3) an attempt to bring game developers under the Google umbrella, whether through aggressive recruiting or even major acquisitions. That’s the word from five people who have either been briefed on Google’s plans or heard about them secondhand.
https://kotaku.com/sources-google-is...uld-1827217387
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The Jackal
The Google Orbi.
Is it weird that I thought the exact same thing? LOL
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The Jackal
The Google Orbi.
Don't say that 3 times, the dude might come back.
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NeoVamp
But they'll be created in such a way that google discovers what kinda person you are to make organized advertising better.
And it integrates with Google Home, so when you make off-handed mention of an upcoming game, it pre-orders it for you.
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SegataS
Also, Google has a bad habit of abandoning things after a year or 2.
Aw, and I was hoping to integrate it with my Google+ account. /s
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Omg Orbi is real after all.
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Google/Sega Chromecast 2: 09/09/19.
Believe!
All joking aside I expect other big tech companies to jump into console gaming in some ways (like Apple and Amazon) because they are all eyeing the rising opportunity of a paradigm shift in the console industry based on streaming/internet services.
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Oh shit, now I can see all the clickbait youtubers rushing to jump on this…
Also not going to lie, I could see Sega joining as a publisher. It's not uncommon for big publishers to jump into new platforms just in case they happen to be the next big thing. I mean, game.com is a turd yet its games are big licenses… Also everybody who jumped on Zeebo.
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I'm kind of on a fuck Google kick, so... yeah. Way more monopolistic and invasive than any one company ever needs to be.
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Honestly I'm sorta done with a new console after the Switch. It's going to have to take some seriously good exclusives to even entice me into another system. Honestly I think 3 is enough in this market as it is.
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So it's been announced and, as expected, it's just a streaming service.
Which means when Google abandons it in two years, you won't be able to play any of the games you bought.
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https://youtu.be/nUih5C5rOrA?t=991
Skip to 16:30
Starts out real boring, and then the demos and promises.
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A streaming only, INSTANT Access system with controller.
Streams up to 4K 60fps HDR, will later add support for 8K 120fps
Stadia instances are 10.7 Teraflops of GPU power
Can click Play Now in a STADIA enabled browser and join instantly on sites like YouTube.
Connects using Chrome as a streaming platform across many devices.
Single code base enjoyed across desktop, laptop, TV, tablet, and phone.
Works on existing devices - Chromecast, Chrome browsers, and Chrome browsers.
Works with existing controllers, not just Google controller
Cross-platform multiplayer and save files
Couch co-op and Split-screen using separate instances available
Low latency platform for "everyone."
Developers can use multiple GPUs as well, so this platform's potential is highly scaleable.
I'm highly skeptical of it all, since there's no console. It's streaming-only.
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Gryson
"Rumored" meaning some guy on Youtube said something without a shred of evidence.
The links posted suggest that this will be a streaming device - streaming game play that is running on Google's servers.
Google doesn't have a good track record when it comes to hardware. They seem quick to abandon things. At least, that's my impression.
Wow running videogames directly off their servers would be awful, just imagine all the game-breaking glitches and disconnections that could happen constantly, any time there's a lag in your internet connection or whatever.
I still can't use Facebook and YouTube without annoying glitches happening lol so the idea of running full videogames off a server sounds terrible
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They had some lag issues and Doom screen glitches and shit on stage. It wasn't quite the Xbox One reveal bad but it wasn't good either. This thing is not going to make Sony or MS hurry up and reveal their next system. I don't doubt they may use an idea or two from this but by then those systems will be more powerful than this.
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I'm pretty much like fuck google. I'm not a huge fan of streaming in the first place but I do stream for free on Nvidia's GeForce Now platform and if you do buy a game on that platform you do get a steam key or GOG I think. I have purchased games from google only to have them not work with a new OS update, be removed permanently over email privacy concerns. This is especially problematic with premium games purchased on the ShieldTV.
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Lolnothanks from me. I boycott anything cloud gaming based out of principle.
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LINK YOUR GMAIL TO YOUR FACEBOOK, LINK YOUR FACEBOOK TO YOUR SHOPS, LINK YOUR SHOPS TO YOUR PROFILE, LINK YOUR PROFILE TO YOUR PORN ACCOUNT, LINK YOUR PORN ACCOUNT TO YOUR GOOGLE GAME CONSOLE!
We need to know everything about you.
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The tech sounds insane. If it works this could be huge and transform gaming for the next gen
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You can pretty much best believe that Google is in this to win in the long haul. Google is not interested in physical game media or hardware. In fact google looks down on it as antiquated. This is the future and Google wants to own it. Google wants to own the majority of the game streaming business, just like they own the majority of smart phones sales ( In 2017, Android accounted for more than 80 percent of all smartphone sales to end users worldwide),web browsers, etc. The next batch of next generation Sony and Microsoft consoles (definitely Microsoft) will pretty much be the last for both of them. Microsoft's Xbox Play Anywhere and Google will be the titans with streaming . Both have literally billions to burn through to achieve worldwide domination. Look at all the exclusive studios M$ just purchased. Microsoft already has an Xbox One with no optical drive due to drop this year. Sony has the PlayStation Now streaming service, and Nintendo is the wild card, for now.
For now Google will focus on the western 3rd party FP shooters, the Maddens, the FIFAs, as Assassins Creeds, and all the casuals games that physical collectors don't bother with. Next will be Japanese games with Sega to be one of the first. Exclusive Google games are in the semi-near future.
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The problem is that, huh, so far everything I've heard hints that it's not gonna live up to the hype (as usual for streaming). They insist on their GPU farms and 4K implying that you'll get the best graphics ever but in practice that doesn't happen because it needs to lower the quality due to the connection being up to it, and from what I've heard somebody tried with wi-fi and the lag got significantly worse (kind of an issue when most people will likely use wi-fi!), and there's the data cap issue (not just home ISPs, it'll be a big issue with mobile carriers too — somebody pointed out that parents won't be amused when they see their phone bills because their kids decided to play non-stop). There's also the issue of negotiating with the publishers and agreeing on royalty percentages is not gonna be easy (just look at what's going on with movie streaming).
Add to all that how everybody expects Google to drop the ball in 2-3 years as they usually do and… well, so far things are not looking good.
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Add to that the cost: I've seen estimates that Google is spending $600 per GPU in their GPU farms (double the cost of a home console), and they basically need to be able to support every user at once in a given region because most people are likely to log in to play at the same time (evening). Because latency will be a very real issue here, they can't just connect users to servers across the country that are seeing less use at that time.
And more cost: They have to pay significant numbers of staff to keep the data centers running efficiently and do support ("My game's lagging!"), and also have to power all of those GPU farms.
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Thread title changed since we finally have a name for this system/thing/whatever.
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Gryson
Add to that the cost: I've seen estimates that Google is spending $600 per GPU in their GPU farms (double the cost of a home console), and they basically need to be able to support every user at once in a given region because most people are likely to log in to play at the same time (evening). Because latency will be a very real issue here, they can't just connect users to servers across the country that are seeing less use at that time.
And more cost: They have to pay significant numbers of staff to keep the data centers running efficiently and do support ("My game's lagging!"), and also have to power all of those GPU farms.
Its Google, they have more money in the bank that most countries. If they can get anywhere near what they promise (and its a BIG if) this could be massive, to both the core and casual gamer. No more wires, no more loading times, no more changing discs but the ability to play any game close to top end settings on almost any TV in one's house or any TV, anywhere with a half decent internet connection and all as easy as using YouTube.
This 'could' be night and day massive. The only good thing is this really means SONY and Microsoft must up their game and the next gen consoles, well and truly have to be something extra special and really go to down on the tech spec's and giving their teams huge funds to make the best games around. Here's hoping MS really starts the fight at E3
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I'm sure they've thought it through, but the very high cost associated does increase the risk that they bail on it if it isn't as profitable as they want. Granted, since it's Google we're talking about, I'm sure they have a plan to monetize user data and serve up plenty of ads.
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Gryson
I'm sure they've thought it through, but the very high cost associated does increase the risk that they bail on it if it isn't as profitable as they want. Granted, since it's Google we're talking about, I'm sure they have a plan to monetize user data and serve up plenty of ads.
Sure, but if this works and suddenly all any gamer needs are the Internet and Youtube this could be massive and Google would make a fortune from developer fee's alone. The tech spec is something off the chart that puts some High end gaming PC's to shame.
Sure usually... I would laugh and say its never going to work or happen. This is google mind, with both the money and infrastructure, to make it work.
One needs to see what its like out in the wild mine. But If I was MS and SONY I'll be doubling up on the tech spec right now
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https://fiber.google.com/ourcities/
Does anyone actually have it? It was suppose to come to my city in 2013 and it has been an extremely slow and sporadic rollout. None of my previous addresses have it.
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I've had Verizon Fios (Now Frontier) at my house for more than 5 years now.
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Da_Shocker
https://fiber.google.com/ourcities/
Does anyone actually have it? It was supposed to come to my city in 2013 and it has been an extremely slow and sporadic rollout. None of my previous addresses have it.
I have Google Fiber. I never had a problem but where my mom lives the entire area has blackouts 2-3 times a month and they seemingly finally fixed it after months of frustration. Where I live I have had no issues really. Flat $50 no tax a month for 100 up and 100 down and the signal had been strong enough on Wifi my PC gets all 100. Roku 4 gets about 70 and Switch stays about 60.
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I just saw the first ad for Stadia that has come up for me naturally IIRC.
I get it that they're trying something new but yeah I still think this is an impossible idea.
Just think of how often there's a problem with internet connection.
Or maybe some folks just always have an awesome internet connection.
Lately our iPhones have been cutting out because of switching towers to 5G apparently...
Anyway I just can't imagine it working because it will always definitely have more problems than a console... right??
