32X vs. 3DO vs. Jaguar

Are you insinuating that 3DO is the epitome of gaming... that if there isn't a 3DO game that you like, then one cannot possibly like any games? I think maybe you need a bit more sleep.

Anyway as far as the 3DO games I did like:
-Road Rash (still the best version, though not by enough to justify me keeping the system)
-Need for Speed (pretty fun though lacking any real depth)
-Return Fire (good for its day, seems like a minigame nowadays)
-Street Fighter 2 was fairly well done, but it is irrelevant now since there are better versions which use FAR better controllers. I wasn't as much of a fighting game fan back then, anyway
-Total Eclipse was fun at first, but really lacked any gameplay value at all. Not very well designed.

None of those games are exclusives. The 3DO exclusives were pretty bad for the most part. Way of the Warrior's polygon graphics were done very well, but the digitized characters were all lame and the gameplay was embarrassingly bad. Shockwave was OK for maybe a day. Guardian War was pathetically marketed as an RPG when it was just a mediocre strategy game with good, but muffled music. Crash and Burn was a joke, even for its time.

My favorite thing about the 3DO ended up being its ability to play PhotoCDs. It just didn't cut it for my gaming tastes. I'm sure we'll get some 3DO fan(s) with limited mental capacity who will come in and just can't possibly accept that I don't care for their system.

i just asked if there was anything you liked given your long standing record of cynicism. It was not meant as an insult, rather a complement hidden in a friendly jab.

Though I do have a limited mental capacity, I do certainly understand your distaste for the system.

Way of the warrior, is that the one with the dude who shoots fireballs from under his kilt? Wait, maybe im confusing it with another crappy fighting game on the jaguar

No, you're thinking of the Jaguar game... which is even worse!

Thus making it the superior of the two due to the novelty factor

ugh...

Is it just me or is everything just seem cheapo about the Jaguar? Like a .99cents store game system?

No door over the cartridge slot (which is something Atari loves as all their 8 bit systems are this way), the motherboard is exposed at the back so it can get full of dust, and the jaguar box is glued together instead of having proper flaps.

POS system...

The video interface is nothing more than the PCB sticking out of the back. WTF!

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Originally Posted by Tanegashima

Is it just me or is everything just seem cheapo about the Jaguar? Like a .99cents store game system?

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Oh, it's definitely NOT just you!

In retrospect I feel sorry for owners of these three systems, as they (and their software support and overall prescence) were snuffed out with the launches of the Saturn & PS1. All hopes of either three of these consoles having a long shelf life were gone by the end of 1995.

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Originally Posted by Aarzak

In retrospect I feel sorry for owners of these three systems, as they (and their software support and overall prescence) were snuffed out with the launches of the Saturn & PS1. All hopes of either three of these consoles having a long shelf life were gone by the end of 1995.

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You'd think Sega would have been intelligent enough to never have released the 32X in the first place, considering their timeline had the Saturn less than a year from release when the 32X came out. I mean, what the hell were they thinking?

In all honesty, the Sega CD makes perfect sense and that thing completely justified itself with some pretty amazing games.

When you have a full-fledged 32-bit system a year away from full release, why would you want to over-extend your advertising and manufacturing resources by attempting to support yet another expensive add-on?

Sega should have ceased support of all it's 16 bit add-on's and the Genesis as soon as the Saturn hit the shelves. Games like Vectorman, Ristar and Comix Zone probably would have done very well on the Saturn...

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Originally Posted by Tanegashima

You'd think Sega would have been intelligent enough to never have released the 32X in the first place, considering their timeline had the Saturn less than a year from release when the 32X came out. I mean, what the hell were they thinking?

In all honesty, the Sega CD makes perfect sense and that thing completely justified itself with some pretty amazing games.

When you have a full-fledged 32-bit system a year away from full release, why would you want to over-extend your advertising and manufacturing resources by attempting to support yet another expensive add-on?

Sega should have ceased support of all it's 16 bit add-on's and the Genesis as soon as the Saturn hit the shelves. Games like Vectorman, Ristar and Comix Zone probably would have done very well on the Saturn...

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I agree up untill the last paragraph. It wouldn't have been good for Sega to just drop the megadrive altogether, for one thing it was actually making them money, and also it doesn't look good in the eyes of the consumer. Now enhanced versions of Comix Zone, Ristar etc for Saturn with improved graphics, music, extra content (like EWJ2), released alongside the Megadrive versions would have been a great idea.

My experiences with the Jaguar have been good. I own the console and 2 games, those being Attack of the Mutant Penguins and Tempest 2K, and they're the only ones I have ever played for the console, so I can't say much about the others yet. I don't think of it as a cheap system to be honest, despite the mentioned flaws. I have never played a 3DO so I can't comment. The 32X however is one I really regret having foolishly sold my original SNES (and other excellent games with it) to buy, and brings back bad memories. I would rather just emulate it.

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Originally Posted by Joe Redifer

I never understood what the fascination with Star Control 2 was. I bought it upon release, played it for a day or two and then returned it for a full refund due to excessive boredom. The only thing I enjoyed was one or two of the music tracks (which I ripped in full quality). I guess spaceships flying around trying to shoot each other while constantly zooming in and out doesn't squirt my sperm.

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TBH most of the time you come across as never even playing the games you're talking about, I mean Star Control 2 is an RPG, the ships flying around section is just to resolve battles, you sound like you played "melee mode" for two days on your own and then got fed up or something.

RPG's are usually about the story and the leveling up, when you think of Final Fantasy games do you just think of going through menu screens choosing "attack" or "block" I know I don't, I find it the least interesting thing about those games, and believe me i'm much happier going through the action orientated spaceship battles than turn based menu's anyway.

Also seeing as you hate the melee so much but gave up early you may like to know that by 1/3 of the way through the game most people have leveled up their main ship so much that 90% of the enemy ship types take 2-3 homing shots to destroy, meaning that those space sections take about 5 seconds to resolve.

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Originally Posted by jesus.arnold

RPG's are usually about the story and the leveling up, when you think of Final Fantasy games do you just think of going through menu screens choosing "attack" or "block" I know I don't, I find it the least interesting thing about those games, and believe me i'm much happier going through the action orientated spaceship battles than turn based menu's anyway.

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I used to think that too, but lately I've found the more simple games like Fatal Labyrinth and Super Hydlide to be strangely hypnotic. A friend of mine feels that RPGs with less of a plotline can sometimes leave more to the imagination, and I guess it's somewhat true.

I think it's a bit of a stretch labeling Star Control 2 as an RPG. I pretty much labeled it as "strategy action" or something like that. Then again, Jesus Arnold, it has been well over a decade since I played it, so should my memory of that turd be 100% pristine? All I need to remember was that I didn't like it, otherwise I would have not returned it.