Maybe you should consider going to counseling instead. Keep going over and over until you figure out what happened to you to make this seem like a reasonable thing to suggest to others.Quote:
Originally Posted by SegaAMD
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Maybe you should consider going to counseling instead. Keep going over and over until you figure out what happened to you to make this seem like a reasonable thing to suggest to others.Quote:
Originally Posted by SegaAMD
seems pretty cool, too bad for the price :(
If it could be modded like MD Mini, it would be sweet.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/3/21...gnifying-glass
So for $50 MSRP you get FOUR games preloaded!?!?@#?!@#?!@??!@?#!@# And of course, there's FOUR versions to collect.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/l6KX...817/img_01.jpg
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/xM8q...09/img_red.png
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/jnVp...img_yellow.png
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/oijd...6/img_blue.png
Yes, Sega is going to sell a magnifier.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/aPNP...015829/bwm.jpg
No, I think the magnifier is only included if you buy the limited set of all four.
There's actually 5 versions (LOL):
Click to enlarge.Quote:
Originally Posted by https://60th.sega.com/ggmicro/shop.html
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Well, just figured it's actually a mockup according to Google Translate... Doesn't turn ON lol.
So still 4 versions haha.Quote:
2) Game Gear Micro Smoke Model (Mockup) * Completed product. The appearance and texture are almost the same as the product, but the power does not turn on. You cannot play the game.
I doubt the screen will be all that great on a $46 item. I have a keychain arcade of PAC-MAN and Space Invaders. Those are $20 items and the screens are pretty low Rez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Tiger
I don't know about that. The GB Micro was about 100 mm across with a 2" screen, this one is only 80 mm. I haven't seen the screen size listed but I opened one of the images in Photoshop, the entire unit is 327 pixels across, with the screen measuring 100 px wide by 75 px tall. So that would be a screen size of about 1.2" on the diagonal, or about 60% smaller than the GB Micro LCD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Tiger
For a quick game of Columns I might enjoy it as a novelty I just don't understand putting RPGs on it that no one will play.
Pre-orders have already sold out on most sites.
Concerning the quality of the screen: Decent LCD screens at that size are pretty common and dirt cheap these days. I think you can get a 1.5" LCD for about $2 from Aliexpress with resolution double the original GG (or so). Will be much cheaper in bulk.
Edit: And there are also lots of so-called "TinyPi" handhelds out there that will give you a sense of what this GG Micro will be like. The screen on this one is quite nice, as you can see at 1:00.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHv7w5ioWu0
That’s like child labor cheap.
There is an official looking photo online with a GBA Micro in a hand that looks comparable to the Game Gear Micro hand pic.Quote:
Originally Posted by axel
Keep in mind that GBA resolution is 240 x 160 but Game Gear is only 160 x 144.
So if the GG Micro came out back when the GBA Micro did, you'd likely have more or less the same display size.
But screen size is irrelevent since budget screens today are so good that it will likely have a much better image than the GBA Micro did.
Don't forget that the original Game Gear actually exist and had terrible blurring during scrolling and static images were still super blurry compared to what we're used to today.
Everyone's tastes are different, but I think that a turn based game like Shining Force is much better suited to small portables than a real time puzzle game. I've done a lot of laps through Phantasy Star on my touch screen phones, playing mostly while waiting in lines.
As opposed to suicide net cheap?Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Don't forget also that a lot of people have shitty vision, especially the target demographic who have grown older (since I doubt they're aiming to sell it to kids). And honestly it's a pain even when you have good vision. And let's not forget that the buttons are so cramped that it looks like long term use can hurt your hands, so you want to keep any gaming sessions short.
RPGs are like the polar opposite of what you'd want to play in that context. Sure, I can get people who want to play them on portable hardware, but that usually still involves something a bit larger than this :P
Gotta give it to them, they know how much they can get away with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gryson
If they made it the same size as a gameboy micro with a decent screen, pre loaded with 30 games, i would have bought it even at 100$, this is ridiculous. Could have been awesome
Yeah you have a point it's probably about the same pixel density as a GB Micro. But it's still tiny. A turn-based RPG might be easier I just can't imagine looking at that screen for hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Tiger
The closest I've owned to this was a Zelda watch, that was cool because even when I wasn't playing it would display Link and Aquamentus, like a little screensaver (in addition of course to displaying the time). I don't think I played through the game more than a couple times but you could finish all the levels in about 15 minutes.
I'd actually rather have the GG Micro function as like a little picture frame, show me screenshots and gameplay from classic Sega games when I'm not playing, I would get some amusement out of having that on my desk.
It's not built to play. It's built to be bought, toyed around with for an hour or two, and then put on the shelf with the other collectibles
Yep. Even for the MD Mini, I think that is probably what happened for 95% of the people that bought it - plug it in, play around for a bit, and put it on the shelf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Genesis Knight
The GG Micro is just cutting straight to the point.
Size comparison
https://i.imgur.com/y6LuuVF.jpg
Off Twitter from SEGA Bits
Apple certainly didn't pass those savings on to customers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Tiger
If it charges through microusb, then someone will find a way to mod it. Only way it would make this thing worth buying is through a mod.
That being said, Game Gear games have terrible resolution, better off playing the Master System alternatives for the most part, since TecToy ported every worthwhile GG game to the Master System.
This is so true, I almost never play the GG versions anymore. The higher color count is nice but not at the expense of halving the resolution. I'd wager that even Sega would have just made a portable SMS 30 years ago if costs had been lower, NEC showed it could be done with the Turbo Express.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
Tec Toy didn't come close but fans have in recent years. The resolution doesn't make a difference though. The assets in all but a handful of games were made the same as they are for SMS. Tec Toy didn't redraw everything, they only extended the viewing area. The pixelart remains the same, just like all those Genesis games with frames and borders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
There's no reason to play classic portable games on their original screens other than nostalgia. If you play Game Gear games on a 27" TV it's like a fullscreen 20" TV.
The extended area makes the games easier to play. Try any platformer where you can barely see the enemies or jumps ahead of you. The best games on GG (or GB/GBC) tend to be those where the artwork and levels were redesigned for the smaller screen versus using the same assets as the console version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Tiger
By the way -- I'm now getting ads for this thing on Facebook, so it's clearly being marketed for Americans. The comments were predictable, "WTF is this, a Game Gear for ants", "only four games?", "no SD slot?" etc. Nobody seems to understand what Sega was going for.
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According to this Famitsu interview that was just posted Sega was originally considering 1 game per color variation for the Game Gear Micro.
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Afterward, they decided to expand the number of games per variation. But they felt like it was unreasonable, so they decided to expand it to 3 games per Game Gear Micro. Then they decided to expand it further, and add another color variation, making it 4 and 4.
https://twitter.com/PushDustIn/statu...36882379632641
Should have been one unit with all 16 games and removable face plates, ala GB Micro. Not sure if anyone suggested this earlier in the thread.
you'd make less money with it and would be less collectibleQuote:
Originally Posted by redsox2013
All five SKUs are currently #1-5 in sales for mini consoles on Amazon Japan, so it seems Sega knows the market better than the comment section outrage mob... again.Quote:
Originally Posted by axel
Sega's Yosuke Okunari also said on Twitter that initial sales were so good that Sega will consider doing more stuff like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centrale
Meanwhile, the "comment section outrage mob" will continue to be outraged that Sega does not cater to their every whim. It's 2020, just buy an RG 350 if you want to play a well-designed handheld with every retro game ever on it.
The angry mob will keep finding excuses to get angry until they die of old age.
Though I do admit that Sega was quite daring by pricing them at $46 each, considering what each of these are on their own.
I'm happy they're making money on this but I can hardly call it a console. Actually it's good if a lot of people buy it, maybe that will prompt Sega to build other hardware.
To be frank...not too many Game Gear exclusives that are worth playing in 2020. Off the top of my head:Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Tiger
Ronald McDonald in Magical World
GG Aleste
GG Aleste II
Mighty Morphin Power Rangers
Tails Adventure
What about:Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
Shining Force Gaiden
Shining Force Gaiden II
Shining Force Gaiden III
Madou Monogatari I
Madou Monogatari II
Madou Monogatari III
Megami Tensei Last Bible
Megami Tensei Last Bible Special
Crystal Warriors
Royal Stone
Eternal Legend
Moldorian
Sylvan Tale
Lunar Magic School
Magic Knight Rayearth
Magic Knight Rayearth 2
Godzilla Monsters Attack
Head Buster
Aleste GG
Aleste GG II
Fantasy Zone Gear
Galaga '91
Halley Wars
Drop Zone
Griffon
Magical Taruruto kun
Tail's Sky Patrol
I already mentioned GG Aleste I and II.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Tiger
Better versions exist on other platforms of these games:
Shining Force I
Shining Force II
Galaga '91
Fantasy Zone
Lunar Magical School
Dropzone - (See: Defender, Stargate/Defender II)
Games that arent great:
Tails Sky Patrol
Every other game you mentioned is a Japanese RPG save for Halley Wars and Godzilla, some of which havent even received fan translations yet. Personally I think there is under fifteen exclusive games total on the Game Gear that are really worth playing in 2020.
So if we expanded the list out a little bit. These are probably the only must plays on the Game Gear
GG Aleste
GG Aleste II
Halley Wars
Royal Stone
Godzilla
Mighty Morphin Power Rangers
Tails Adventure
Shining Force Gaiden: Final Conflict
Then GG Exclusives that are good:
Legend of Illusion
Land of Illusion
Ronald McDonald in Magical World
Eternal Legend
Crystal Warriors
Moldorian
Not a single mention of the two GG Shinobi games? Seriously?
Isn't "worth playing" really, really subjective?
I'm sure more than a few of us here enjoy certain games that many would find not worth playing.
The library is large. I don't have time to post them all. I started with some of the genres I enjoy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sik
Baloo: I believe that I only listed RPGs and war sims that have English translations. I guess that 2020 means different things to different people. I'm not interested in current consoles but love <16-bit games and it's never been easier and more convenient to play them, especially portable games.
Here are some English translations:
https://www.romhacking.net/?page=tra...transsearch=Go
And here are some Game Gear to SMS conversions:
https://www.smspower.org/Hacks/GameGearToMasterSystem
I don't view radically different versions of a game to be "better" or cancel them out and I don't consider new entries or sequels in a series to be "the same game".
I also love chiptunes (especially SMS sound) and the signature visuals of unique gaming hardware. Shining Force CD will never replace the games it mimics and you're losing out on skipping them if you enjoy the classic series.
I guess you don't play many Genesis games any more and rarely on Genesis hardware, since most games are better/newer elsewhere and there are technically superior alternatives?
For you, I guess! :D You could ask each person what their must-play list is for any console, and you'd have some titles that commonly repeat across everyone's list, and some unique titles on each person's list, too. Also, there are a lot of people who enjoy playing the different versions of a single game because it's just fascinating to observe the different capabilities in hardware and the various approaches different coders took in adapting the titles. For example, I like playing every version of Out Run. Obviously technical capabilities have expanded by leaps and bounds over the years but (at the risk of stating the obvious on a retro-focused forum) the old stuff still stands on its own terms and is worth playing... not only to observe a technological evolution, but also because it's still fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
I think my tastes are just different from everyone here on the boards, nothing wrong with that either. I'm glad more people are finding fun with the Game Gear. I just went back this week and tried a bunch of the lauded games, like Donald Duck in Deep Duck Trouble, Shinobi I and II, Streets of Rage I and II, Sonic Drift 2, Sonic Triple Trouble, The Lucky Dime Caper, Gunstar Heroes, and honestly just didn't find that they held up well for the most part. I thought Ristar played considerably well and looked nice, but when compared to the Genesis version which is also easy to emulate, I just didn't see the appeal for a lot of these games in 2020. Not that they were terrible back in the day or anything, I played a lot of Game Gear when I was a kid. But I just don't think too many of these games have aged considerably well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sik
I still play a lot of Genesis games, because I think that the colors are vibrant, screen is far larger, and the music is much better. Not that these games are objectively horrible, but sometimes when you're accustomed over the years of playing games in a different fashion, that you'd rather take the better version. but I will say taking Streets of Rage II for example that I think the sound chip is just quite superior on the Genesis that I would prefer playing it that way. Gameplay is a little bit tighter to. Not that Streets of Rage II for Game Gear isn't an impressive port for a time when that was the only portable way to play Streets of Rage. Same thing goes for the Sonic games I wrote about in another thread.
Technology aside, if I have a limited amount of time, I'm taking the more tightly developed version, regardless of platform. For example:
- Streets of Rage Remake over the original 3 Streets of Rage games, particularly Streets of Rage 1 on Genesis which i think has very poor hit detection.
- Sonic 1 on Genesis over Sonic 1 on Master System or Game Gear.
- Outrun on the Sega Saturn over Outrun on the Sega Genesis.
- Space Harrier on the Saturn or 32X or Arcade over Space Harrier 2.
- Gunstar Heroes on Genesis over Gunstar Heroes on Game Gear.
- Ecco the Dolphin for Windows over Ecco the Dolphin on Genesis.
That's not to say a lot of these games are horrible, but I'm going to take the technologically superior and tighter playing version if I can.
The 8-bit Street of Rage games are awful and I don't know why anybody would think they're good, it's not just the collision detection that's off, the physics in general are (・・) Maybe it looks nice on screenshots (maybe) but that's it.
I have to agree that a lot of the game gear games are crappier versions of the genesis games, gunstar heroes is amazing for an 8 bit port but i would never play it when i can play the genesis version. If nintendo bitd had made the same games for both gameboy and snes, i would never play the gameboy.