Interesting video concerning the extremely confusing Sega-Sammy Holdings business structure.
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Interesting video concerning the extremely confusing Sega-Sammy Holdings business structure.
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Neat, but the rambling and meandering narration is a bit off-putting.
More YouTube Crap...
I literally disagree with everything
in fact I believe that the modern SEGA is superior to the old SEGA the so-called great producers of the old Sega are the same ones that led the company to near bankruptcy, I believe that Sega Sammy is producing a console based on its own philosophy of: creation is life
I like to know that icons like Rieko Kodama are still in Sega and contributed to the preservation of the source code of Virtua Racing, Also Toshihiro Nagoshi the producer of SEGA's most successful since Sonic, Sonic and Mario the game is dull but brings profit to SEGA and that is what matters, with this profit the prospect of future investments and larger projects is created.
Damn. Sega's dead. Who are you going to write letters to now? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by SegaAMD
With the context of who we're talking about here, is Santa Claus too far fetched to consider?Quote:
Originally Posted by turboxray
Seems like a decent video, but does any company still exist after 30 years? Takeovers, restructuring and rebranding happen all the time.
Is this mrsega?Quote:
Originally Posted by SegaAMD
It's a "true" fan dedicated to writing letters with master plans on how to make Sega a viable and dominant player in a console market, willing to take all credit for their success if anything happens, unwilling to explain details. He literally threatened to sue Sega as a backup plan if they don't meet the list of demands he wanted to campaign at them via "game journalists."Quote:
Originally Posted by Moirai
Absurd beyond any measure found outside of a hospital psych ward. He could very well be a patient with limited computer and telephone access. Those types of people tend to spend all day prank calling toll free numbers to order apple sauce for their play doh cup cakes, and try to have phone sex with the first female voice they hear.
Oh Christ, another reminder of the time I spent in the hell that is AT&T.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
Dude, Sega is not dead this is an unreasonable opinion coming from fake fans a very fragile idea easily overturned, have you forgotten recent Segata Sanshiro advertisement ? September 25th, TGS and SEGA will be there. time is lord of destiny.Quote:
Originally Posted by turboxray
~ORBI~Quote:
Originally Posted by Moirai
I had totally forgotten about the Orbi delusion. I am literally going out of my way to drink a shot of rum right now over this comment. Well done. God damn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
The credit completely belongs to MrSega and his Nostradamus-like powers of prophecy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
Once a company gets under the umbrella of a larger company, usually the founder and it’s main members are slowly syphoned out. Just look at what happened to Trumiel and Bushnell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Moham
LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Raijin Z
Originally posted by SegaAMD
Fake fans?! Sega still exists, and are doing pretty well all things considered, but they are NOT the company of the 80's/90's. I know you love them and want desperately for them to release a new console but not only is it not happening, it would be financial suicide for them if they did! If you truly love Sega, as I do, you would not want them to release a new console because it would finish them off for good.Quote:
Dude, Sega is not dead this is an unreasonable opinion coming from fake fans a very fragile idea easily overturned, have you forgotten recent Segata Sanshiro advertisement ? September 25th, TGS and SEGA will be there. time is lord of destiny.
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Originally Posted by Mega Drive Bowlsey
you are translating what the fake fans say and represent.
they supposedly love SEGA but at the same time it is never able to do anything, true fans know that Sega has financial resources, knows that SEGA can take borrow from banks, fake fans say that SEGA made mistakes in past, true fans know that SEGA was a victim, big trap.
the fake fans cannot be confused with that person who like SEGA but for some reason does not fully understand all SEGA´s history of SEGA, these we explain and they say: that's cool, fakes insist and insist on the passive narrative, where everything from Sega is seen from a negative viewpoint focusing erroneously on the worst side of the narrative. it is sad but in this time that I am here on Sega-16 I saw that many users follows the passive viewpoint of the historical narrative (which was coined by competitors via their marketing) as opposed to the true fans ''active'' viewpoint,
Most of Sega's greatest talents have long since aged out of the industry, and without a computer revolution to spur young people into taking their places, how are the glory days supposed to return? Ignoring that, the market base for video games is no longer people who crave detailed and moderately difficult games to chew on for weeks on end between school and sleep. It's largely dullards who buy loot boxes, cosmetics, and other nonsense for console and mobile games. Look at the crowdfunding for games like Xeno Crisis and Tanglewood. The games are indeed amazing, and the campaigns were successful, but they didn't pull in enough profit to keep their teams constantly producing new games.
I'd continue, but you cannot reason a person out of a position at which they did not arrive through reason.
The power of positive thinking, ladies and gentlemen.Quote:
Originally Posted by SegaAMD
It not only lets you label people who appreciate a dead console brand from two decades ago as real, fake, or true believers; It also magically gives Sega Sammy a massive line of credit while ignoring their failures, or that they are now hemorrhaging money due to a global pandemic.
I'm sorry.............. what?Quote:
Originally Posted by SegaAMD
Sega's "Miyamoto" Toshihiro Nagoshi of AM2 fame, and of course Takashi Iizuka, are still there and making great games, especially Nagoshi. More than what Miyamoto has been doing since 1998 IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raijin Z
Sega for some reason does have a way of keeping their talent around for ages. One of their in-house musicians from the Afterburner days, Hiro, is still there. The recently released Sakura Wars was directed by Skies of Arcadia writer Tetsuya Ootsubo, with some great people from the Manga industry working on the game too. If anything, Sega has more old blood actively working on games than Nintendo.
That's what Sega is to me, 20 years ago and now.
2000 years from now, historians will learn about an extinct blue hedgehog breed named Sega.
It will be cross referenced with enough junk data about miracle worlds, dreams, shinobis, the biblical book of genesis, planet saturn, that the whole scholarly debate around it will be shuffled into an irrelevant intellectual dumpster. Some dickhead will then seize fame and credit for figuring it all out, that Sega never existed and was just an example of the Mandela effect.
On that day, the ghost of SegaAMD will haunt the entire human race and threaten to sue them.
Your guess is as good as mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonusKun
As long as a company called Sega is putting out good games, and allowing for Sonic Mania's and the like, I don't have a complaint. (doubly so if I give up on modern gaming 100% :p)
https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HU2Q...MLD2/giphy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by SegaAMD
pour a cold one out for our dear mr sega. RIPQuote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
Now that they've done away with their arcade business, I'd say that's the last nail in the coffin. Their back library is still getting released in good ways tho thankfully.
I think the Atlus arm of the company has surpassed the SEGA arm big time, and it's because all their good developers left when they murdered the DC.
SEGA hasn't. It simply sold off its Arcade centres, but not its Arcade divisions. Also, sorry Atlus hasn't surpassed the SEGA arm. Sonic still sells the most and after that, it's SEGA Europe's Creative Assembly that then does the business, maybe followed by SEGA Europe Sports InteractiveQuote:
Originally Posted by eeplox
But I get this is a wind-up and a pisstake post
It's honestly not a wind-up. I'm talking about creativity, not economics. The kind of games SEGA fans want to play are few and far between. We're not getting excited over Football Manager and Aliens games, but that's become their focus. Most of their Japanese developers left the company (were forced out, really) after the Dreamcast, with the few that remained getting pushed out over the next decade. They outsource most of their development now. The kind of games that SEGA fans are looking to play are coming more and more from Atlus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Andromeda
Now that they've sold off their arcades, they're not going to invest in making arcade games. It was only viable for a company of their size to stay in the arcade development business because they owned the arcades.
SEGA sold off their Arcade centers and not their Arcade lines and it's not new .SEGA been cost cutting in the Arcades since 2001 , when it looks to sell off its Arcade manufacturing facility and outsourced all its Arcade unit manufacture and the like .Quote:
Originally Posted by eeplox
SEGA will still make Arcade games and well we can say we want the old SEGA games and say that about a lot of companies, but SEGA is having to make games that sells
And how many if the SEGA games have you played of late ? Player Sakura Wars ?, Played Fist of the North Star? The new Yakuza ? , Valkyrie IV ?
SEGA made some rather nice games this gen and I don't think Aliens is SEGA focus at all , it hasn't made a Alien game in like 7 years ....