Maybe. Were the voices nice and clear with great quality or crappy and hissy sounding ?Quote:
Originally Posted by old man
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Maybe. Were the voices nice and clear with great quality or crappy and hissy sounding ?Quote:
Originally Posted by old man
Just read 2 pages of thread crapping on the Project Y thread.
Yep! That's the one! I'm probably in the minority when I say that "Strider Returns" plays fine: It's a tad slower than the original but personally, I don't think it breaks the gameplay. The game was released in North America.Quote:
Originally Posted by djvectorman
Strider Returns isn't just a tad slower than the original or the Genesis adaptation, it's a bad UK platformer with Strider shoehorned into it. Strider is all about speed and constant movement. Maybe Strider Returns could pass for a Genesis sequel to NES Strider, but even that would be a stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by SEGA.GENESIS1989
As to this "list", seriously, are we only looking for vocal samples, and for what purpose, to prove one SNES fan wrong? They can never be proven wrong, Nintendo never did anything wrong and muffled audio is on their list of rights.
Mea culpa! But in my defense I did say I was in the minority on this subject! It's because I sometimes enjoy bad games! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by sheath
If Strider Returns was compared to Alien 3 or the Shadow of the Beast games, or most of EA's platformers for that matter, I would completely agree that it isn't bad. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SEGA.GENESIS1989
#1 - "Wise fwum yo gwave" is not the fault of the Genesis. Many people who lack any kind of intelligence assume that the Genesis somehow changes RISE to WISE and so on. These people are idiots. If you mispronounce something into the microphone, the recording will reflect that. He would still say "wise" instead of "rise" on the mighty SNES super voice chip which has better voices than real life. It's true! Not muffled at all. Though I will never understand why they re-recorded the voices from the arcade version.Quote:
Originally Posted by djvectorman
#2 - You must be listening on a broken Genesis if you are hearing white noise after a sample is ending. Please use a working Genesis.
You seem to be looking only for flaws and glossing over what actually does work. Altered Beast doesn't get a pass because you're listening on a broken Genesis and you think the Genesis changes the pronunciation of the words? Brilliant.
Who said it was ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
You got that right.Quote:
Many people who lack any kind of intelligence assume that the Genesis somehow changes RISE to WISE and so on. These people are idiots.
Of course.Quote:
If you mispronounce something into the microphone, the recording will reflect that.
It's a working model 1 va6. I heard it on all my Genesis models over the years anyway even remember hearing it in 1989 when Altered Beast came with my Genesis.Quote:
#2 - You must be listening on a broken Genesis if you are hearing white noise after a sample is ending. Please use a working Genesis.
Not at all. I'm talking about a specific thing, but tired of repeating it.Quote:
You seem to be looking only for flaws and glossing over what actually does work.
What are you talking about ? I never said it changed the pronunciation, I was just mocking that infamous voice. And my Genesis isn't broken. SMH.Quote:
Altered Beast doesn't get a pass because you're listening on a broken Genesis and you think the Genesis changes the pronunciation of the words? Brilliant.
What is SMH? Suck My Heiny? No thanks. You brought up Wise from your gwave and questioned it as clear. It is. I have never heard the white noise you speak of. Either your Genesis is broken or your copy of Altered Beast is.
Shaking My Head, because I never said wise from wur gwave was because of the Genesis, it's an infamous thing so I just type it how it sounds as like a joke. There I said it again, so did I just imply it was because of Genesis again ? Of course not. It's no where as clear as other voices like VF 32x voices, wait I'm repeating myself again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
The noise I speak of is after you beat the boss you hear the "har har har" sample but it waits to cut off until a second after the "har har har", which sounds crappy imo. Did you ever sample something on a workstation or keyboard that could sample and not cut it off correctly ? If so that is how it sounds. Listen to it again and you'll see what I mean, and there are Genesis' game which sound a hell of a lot better with voice samples that I listed. Yeah Altered Beast sounds okay.
Or you don't get what I mean. I doubt my multiple Genesis I had, or copies of Altered Beast were broken. Listen closely. I don't count that part as clear. Guess we have different standards of clear, VF 32 x, yes now that's clear.Quote:
Either your Genesis is broken or your copy of Altered Beast is.
Something being cut prematurely is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than white noise lasting for 2 seconds. But I seem to recall 7 full "ha's". It could be cut, but again that is not a limitation of the Genesis. Actually I'm not sure what we're talking about here. You ask for examples of good Genesis voices, examples are provided, you refute many of them. I will allow a cut sample to be described as "less than good" but the sample itself is clear (with no white noise anywhere). Other samples in the game are also good.
This is white noise (takes a full minute to fade in so skip ahead)
I hear it after the "har hars".Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
Fine, "Har har har har har har har".Quote:
But I seem to recall 7 full "ha's".
Did I say it was because of that ?Quote:
It could be cut, but again that is not a limitation of the Genesis.
Not surprising.Quote:
Actually I'm not sure what we're talking about here.
I refuted many of them ? Quote that. Quote me refuting many on my list. Is that why I added them all to my list ?Quote:
You ask for examples of good Genesis voices, examples are provided, you refute many of them.
That is what I'm saying.Quote:
I will allow a cut sample to be described as "less than good"
It's not as clear as others on list. I don't mean white noise like a uhf, I call noise from microphone recording but nobody talking (slighest of hiss) that when I used to engineer, people not trimming things off correctly drove me nuts. So I had to engineer the previous engineer work because his ear wasn't as good as mine.Quote:
but the sample itself is clear (with no white noise anywhere).
Did I say they were bad ? Did I say it wasn't "good" ? Was just saying it's not as clear as others which sound way better and I could use a top 10 with.Quote:
Other samples in the game are also good.
Like I said, you're glossing over what's good and only talking about what's bad in Altered Beast.
I just did these recordings from my system during gameplay, not the sound test. These have not been edited at all:
The laugh after the boss is defeated.
No white noise ANYWHERE.
The opening Wise Fwum yo gwave
No slight hiss at all. There is some aliasing, but still much more clear than many SNES voices.
Actually what are you arguing about? That VF32X has the best voices? That's it? Who cares?
Like I said to you multiple times, I'm talking about voice samples only, and just pointed out those as not that great (even compared to others in that game, I agree).Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
Yes slight noise (because sample wasn't cut off/trimmed correctly but the har hars weren't great sounding), exactly.Quote:
I just did these recordings from my system during gameplay, not the sound test. These have not been edited at all:
The laugh after the boss is defeated.
No white noise ANYWHERE.
The opening Wise Fwum yo gwave
No slight hiss at all. There is some aliasing, but still much more clear than many SNES voices.
I'm not arguing about anything, I'm correcting your incorrect assumptions (I never said Genesis mispronounces anything, my Genesis isn't broke, my game isn't broke etc). If you read my posts, you would know I wanted to gather up a top 10 list of Genesis voice samples to let my friend hear that Genesis voices can sound great and very clear, because he says SNES overall have better voices, which I kind of agree with but I will listen to the ones people mentioned and pick the best to show him not all Genesis voices are crap. Who cares?, then stop discussing it then. I'm hoping Project Y will have clear voices, this subject was brought up before I posted here.Quote:
Actually what are you arguing about? That VF32X has the best voices? That's it? Who cares?
To be honest there were two new pages of posts just today so I could have missed where you said you wanted examples for a friend. But still no white noise. The only reason I'm arguing with you is because you are giving out incorrect information.