Paprium: The Official Thread Mk 2

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Originally Posted by highlandcattle

Tanglewood. i paid in 2016 for a release winter 2017. Now it is spring 2018. Not that I mind but are his funds frozen?

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We announced a delay on our last Kickstarter update, and we're very sorry we've overstepped our original time estimate. The game has hit Alpha stage and it's in a very good place, but there are some changes we'd like to make to improve some areas of the game, which has pushed the PCB lead time back. This is all on me (Matt) and not the rest of the team, I requested some changes that required some assets to be redesigned.

[Back on topic]

We used PayPal for the Megafounder stage of the crowdfunding, and all went very well, but it was Megafounder themselves who provided the payment processor integration and (according to the Megafounder T&C's) crowdfunding operates within PayPal rules. It's not strictly described as "preordering", so perhaps this makes all the difference in PayPal's eyes.

The one thing I can vouch for (from previous experiences) is that if PayPal freeze any funds, they are in no rush get things flowing again.

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Originally Posted by highlandcattle

Tanglewood. i paid in 2016 for a release winter 2017. Now it is spring 2018. Not that I mind but are his funds frozen?

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

It's *unbelievable* how far people can go in this thread to try to justify the unjustifiable.
It has been YEARS and YEARS of false promises, bullshit release dates, no real updates, etc. from the beloved WM.

One has to live in a very distorted world to even think about equating that to Tanglewood's project, which had a playable demo and detailed updates since day one.

In no universe does WM = BEC in terms of how they do business. The fact that anyone is comparing Paprium's delays to Tanglewoods is cognitive dissonance at its finest.

In the time since I've heard about Paprium: Other Homebrew that was released...

Haunted Halloween 1 & 2 (complete development cycles) - Part 1 is decent, Part 2 is excellent.
Super Russian Roulette - Fantastically done and packaged.
Henshin Engine (nearly done) - Playable Demo.
Tanglewood (nearly done) - Playable Demo - Communication.

Those are just releases that I've backed. Coffee Crisis was released TWICE... the second time to improve on the mess that was the first release.

I can't even get members from Watermelon to acknowledge me in THIS thread... (though I appreciate Matteus chiming in) which makes me not want to support any of their stuff either. We'll see how Paprium turns out when it's released, but there is no comparison.

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Originally Posted by highlandcattle

Lot's of games do this and nobody complains about that. It was the same with Pier Solar and I'm goddamn tired about that.




Tanglewood. i paid in 2016 for a release winter 2017. Now it is spring 2018. Not that I mind but are his funds frozen?

Axiom Verge WiiU. I paid in august for a september release. Now it is pushed back to 27/11/17. Are amazon 's funds frozen? I guess not....

The list goes on but I don't care....

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Axiom Verge on WiiU? You have proof that US release will happen, because everything I've seen would seem contrary to AV on the WiiU only getting overseas releases.

I do think WM's games are top notch and that the wait is worth it. But it is absurd that there are no news. What is so difficult in giving little updates on twitter, facebook, in explaining what's happening. I don't understand why there isn't any news. Writing something wouldn't take time and it doesn't need to spoil the game. And why the videos of the game that came out were all of poor quality? And how come even their collaborators, like Luis, don't get news from them? Why are they playing hard to get?

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Originally Posted by paulojr_mam

I do think WM's games are top notch and that the wait is worth it. But it is absurd that there are no news. What is so difficult in giving little updates on twitter, facebook, in explaining what's happening. I don't understand why there isn't any news. Writing something wouldn't take time and it doesn't need to spoil the game. And why the videos of the game that came out were all of poor quality? And how come even their collaborators, like Luis, don't get news from them? Why are they playing hard to get?

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He's uber protective over potential leaks. I find it ironic that he's even mistrusting of one of the lead contributors Luis. Has anyone ever spoken about how the beta testing software for pier solar worked? That was an interesting feat of engineering!

At the end of the day Fonz's weak in management and I can't see that changing. Where's Tulio when you need him eh? :)

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Has anyone ever spoken about how the beta testing software for pier solar worked? That was an interesting feat of engineering!

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Do tell...

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Originally Posted by paulojr_mam

I do think WM's games are top notch and that the wait is worth it. But it is absurd that there are no news. What is so difficult in giving little updates on twitter, facebook, in explaining what's happening. I don't understand why there isn't any news. Writing something wouldn't take time and it doesn't need to spoil the game. And why the videos of the game that came out were all of poor quality? And how come even their collaborators, like Luis, don't get news from them? Why are they playing hard to get?

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These kinds of completely sane, reasonable questions/requests are the kinds of things that both fuel the communities' distaste/distrust for WM and simultaneously infuriate their most devoted supporters. WM/Fonzie are being completely ridiculous about leaks/lack of information, and the people that have stuck with them for so long are uncomfortable with just admitting Fonzie, as talented as he is, is wrong about his approach to marketing a game.

This could be done so much better, and it would benefit WM, the fans, and retro gaming as a whole.

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Originally Posted by XGoldenboyX

True, but there are also manny other people involved, guys like,Tim Jonsson, David «Groovemaster303», Trevin «Jredd» are a essential part as to why Paprium will look and sound so good. in fact everyone in this Credit's list is responsible for Paprium.

ART DIRECTION:
Gwénaël Godde
Luis Martins

CHARACTER DESIGN:
Luis Martins

BGM:
David «Groovemaster303» Burton
Trevin «Jredd» Hughes

SFX:
Lionel «Shaolin soul» Godinho

BACKGROUND PIXEL-ART:
Gwénaël Godde
Tim Jonsson

SPRITE PIXEL-ART:
Dang Kian Sang
Tim Jonsson
Luis Martins
Rutubo

ENGINEERING:
Rutubo
Jorge Nuno Candeias

ADDITIONAL PIXEL-ART:
Piotr Radecki
Andrew Bado
Shane Stevens

68000 ASSEMBLY:
Olivier «OB1» Brosseron
Jorge Nuno Candeias

AUDIO TOOLS:
Tiido Priimägi
Rutubo

VOICE ACTING:
Fred Gast
John «Choup» Ernie
Thierry Buisson
TataPiche
Clara Rojas

ENEMY & ITEM LAYOUT:
Zebastian «Zebbe» Brax

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Does that mean Fonzie didn't actually code the game? I only see his name in art related stuff.

Is that the same Thierry under voice acting as the guy on this forum?

lol

French actor: http://fr.wikidoublage.wikia.com/wiki/Thierry_Buisson

Could be legit :)

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Originally Posted by roce

Do tell...

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I think I'd step the mark of my own nda if I went into detail! But the system required an internet connection and seemed pretty robust against the distribution of any version of the game.

Nice to get some confirmation that the beta test actually took place. Let's hope some real classic beat 'em up fans got in on it and their feedback assimilated to craft a superior product. I'm still hopeful the arcade mode will be arcade 'tight' in terms of structure and balance. It always did worry me that the RPG elements got first billing from the very beginning.

I'll just leave this here since it was some 10 years ago.