Is Sonic 3D Blast better than half or most of Sonic's other 3D games?

Asked this question to friends of mine for kicks and we actually all came to the agreement that it's much more enjoyable than it gets credit for.

I would say "Yes" personally, I prefer the Saturn version, but the Genesis version was fine too. It's a bit on the slower side, but I liked the exploration for some reason.

Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 are still my favorites, followed by Sonic Generations and Sonic Heroes. Sonic Forces was "okay" for the most part, but the levels were a bit too short for 3D Sonic (though they functioned fine enough to be enjoyable for me).

Didn't care for any of the Wii or Wii U Sonic titles, didn't like Sonic Unleashed though it did have a couple of fun Sonic levels, and Sonic '06 is just plain bad. Shadow the Hedgehog I didn't like either (but I probably shouldn't count that one). I plan to give Sonic Colors another try now that we have a remaster this year (picked up Super Monkey Ball's release too), as I could tell I was up for giving the game another fair shake.

This is all just my opinion keep in mind.

How would you guys say Sonic 3D Blast has measured out in comparison to the rest of Sonic's 3D catalogue? Is it underrated? Or am I giving it too much credit?

Sonic 3D Blast is an odd game, but if forced to I would play it over any of the other 3D Sonic games frankly. 3D Blast at least has good music and no voice acting. But watching those flickies bounce around? Eugh...

Saturn one has amazing special stages. The isometric platforming is just too clunky though. They should have made the game on a 2D plane with the pre-rendered 3D graphics like Donkey Kong Country and Sonic Blast on Game Gear (even though that is a truly trash game.) We all know after Toy Story and Mickey Mania that Traveller's Tales could make some damn good 2D Platformers

3D Blast is not 3D and one of the worst Sonic games.

So no.

I liked most of the 3D Sonic games, including Shadow and Unleashed. FYI the Colors remaster is terrible.

It's isometric, not 3D. Also one of the worst Sonic games ever made and the worst one of the 90s. The only good thing about the game is the Genesis OST.

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I like Sonic 3D Blast, but in no way it's better than any other 3D Sonic, well Colors and Lost World apart (those are terrible).

The real issue of Sonic 3D Blast is that it came after 1,2,3&K.

Colors is the best 3D Sonic game bar none.

Colors is not even a real 3D Sonic.
it's easily the worst in the series for graphic, level design, gameplay, story...only the music is half decent.

Colors is good, unlike half the 3D Sonic games out there which are largely bad.

I had the Saturn version, and let's just say I don't have it anymore.

Good point, I guess it's not really 3D, but at least we get to assess it's general quality level against the 3D library, considering it would just get toppled against the 2D library.

Also, just to clarify, I don't think Sonic 3D Blast is an amazing game or anything, just that it's an "okay" Sonic game in my book. All I was personally trying to say is that I don't think it's as bad as its reputation makes it out to be, as I didn't have a bad time with the game when I played it. However, pick almost any other 2D Sonic and you'll probably have a much better time in comparison. Or even some of the 3D games for that matter.

But yeah, I would've rather had Sonic Xtreme than this game on the Saturn any day, don't get me wrong.

Pretty heartbroken to learn that my purchase of the Sonic Colors Remaster might not be a good one, I haven't gotten around to playing it yet, but now I think I"ll hop right on it and make sure what the fuss is about. As far as it being a "3D entry" I guess that's hard to say. I thought Nights was mostly played on a 2D plane minus being in human form, so I'm always confused with the classification of that game too.

Yeah SEGA outsourced it to a team. It's not a good remaster. They patched some things but still have issues. Wait a while longer to play it. The game has some good level design and platforming. The bosses are fun. Great music well aside from the autotune theme song. I can't take people seriously who complain about a story in Sonic. But yeah it's a typical Sonic story. Robotnick up to no good. Save the day yadda yadda. I rarely like Sonic anything anymore. I've developed a bias against that series in recent years but Colors I still find to be a good game.

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Originally Posted by Milkymagic

Pretty heartbroken to learn that my purchase of the Sonic Colors Remaster might not be a good one, I haven't gotten around to playing it yet, but now I think I"ll hop right on it and make sure what the fuss is about. As far as it being a "3D entry" I guess that's hard to say. I thought Nights was mostly played on a 2D plane minus being in human form, so I'm always confused with the classification of that game too.

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Sonic Colors is really nice, it was amazing on the Cube and the Remaster is pretty awesome; but of course, the internet tells people it's not that good and so many just regurgitate what the internet and YouTube tells them to think and say.
I didn't mind Sonic 3D on either the MD or Saturn and it was worth getting as a technical showcase on both systems, but the game was clearly just stocking filler and a game made to patch a hole in the market to have a Sonic game out there, I think it's how Sonic controls in that game, that lets it down a lot, it just doesn't feel right and like Sonic is on ice at all times

I sort of wish TT were given the task of making Sonic Xtreme on the Saturn, rather than the muppets at STI. They would have no doubt done a far better job and got the game out, but really it should have been Sonic Team Japan making a sequel to the IP for the 32bit gen anway.

Kinda interesting that there is sharp divide over Sonic Colors. I'm in the "it sucks" camp, and I also didn't like Heroes at all. Wasn't a fan of Shadow either, and I think everyone agrees that '06 is crap. I did really enjoy Adventure, Unleashed, and the Secret Rings though (the latter two I went into with almost no expectations, so maybe the surprise of "hey, this isn't that bad" made them seem better than they were?). 3D blast, on Saturn anyway, wasn't really that bad. I'd say it's somewhere in the middle if you want to count it as 3D.

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Originally Posted by BubsyFan1

Kinda interesting that there is sharp divide over Sonic Colors. I'm in the "it sucks" camp, and I also didn't like Heroes at all. Wasn't a fan of Shadow either, and I think everyone agrees that '06 is crap. I did really enjoy Adventure, Unleashed, and the Secret Rings though (the latter two I went into with almost no expectations, so maybe the surprise of "hey, this isn't that bad" made them seem better than they were?). 3D blast, on Saturn anyway, wasn't really that bad. I'd say it's somewhere in the middle if you want to count it as 3D.

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I played all of them as they came out. I didn't love Colors either. It was too streamlined, like Heroes and the old 2D games. I did enjoy it, just not as much as the other entries.

I liked Unleashed, and I would've liked '06 if it was finished. I loved the soap opera plot of '06 indeed, but the gameplay really did have a lot of holes that weren't fixed before release.

If I really had to think about it, I would say the three Sonic Adventure games (Unleashed is 3) and the Shadow side story together are the best 3D Sonic game.

I've played too many Sonic games.

Surprising how divided opinion is on most of the games. 3D Blast looks good on paper, but to play it it's just not fun. It's slow, clunky, and difficult to control.

The only issue I had with Sonic 3D Blast on the Genesis/Megadrive is the lack of a save feature.

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Originally Posted by WarmSignal

clunky, and difficult to control.

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LOL those criticisms can be levelled at the more modern 3D Sonic games too😆

I've not played all of them, but I know that is a legitimate criticism of Sonic Heroes. But it's only made worse by the inherent difficulty of controlling anything from an isometric perspective. A game centered around speed and precision platforming, in that kind of perspective?

It might have been a good game, if they had Sonic moving around in his spin dash form, like Sonic Pinball.

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Originally Posted by stu

The only issue I had with Sonic 3D Blast on the Genesis/Megadrive is the lack of a save feature.

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Totally agree, the real deal breaker was the lack of save feature.
And even this was fixed in the Sonic 3D director's cut, with a password system.

Sonic 3D Blast on Saturn is a 6/10 game for me. It isn't particularly fun, but is decently designed and more unique among the Sonic games with its experimental isometric gameplay, which thankfully was never attempted subsequently. The bonus rounds are 9/10 however!

Then again, I think that most of the 3D Sonics also aren't too fun and have other gameplay wrinkles that really don't engage me. I'd rate Sonic Adventure1 and 2, Generations, and Colors as 7.5/10 or 8/10 Sonic games. The other 3D Sonics, lower ratings.

I'd rate Sonic 1,2,3,K, and Mania as 9/10 to 10/10 games.

I give Sonic Adventure a big fat 5. It kind of sucked!

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Originally Posted by Team Andromeda

Sonic Colors is really nice, it was amazing on the Cube.

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LOL wut! Colors was a Wii game, not GameCube. Heroes and Colors were at least bearable, unlike the cluster fucks like Unleashed or 06 ... 🤮🤮 to either of those.

yes it is better for sure, but not because 3D Blast is good but well basicaly all Sonic 3D games are weak, I would say Sonic Adventures 2 would be the best if we had the option to play only with Sonic but even imperfect it is the best then comes the first Sonic Adventure then Sonic Heroes and finally Sonic Generations the others are forgettable and deplorable, I know that many Sega fans (supposed fans) like them just because such games exist. The true fan says they're bad but at the same time asks Sega to keep trying.

I honestly prefer Crash trilogy (ps1) or even Sonic Jam 3d map than most Sonic 3D games

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Originally Posted by stu

LOL wut! Colors was a Wii game, not GameCube. Heroes and Colors were at least bearable, unlike the cluster fucks like Unleashed or 06 ... 🤮🤮 to either of those.

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A clear Typo. Unleashed wasn't 'that' bad either, its daytime sections were really good and some of the graphics were stunning for the time; in parts playing the game in real time reminded me of Sonic running on SEGAs ultra highend PC powering its 2005 Sonic tech demo. Its biggest issue was some of the levels were a bit unfinished and needed a little more work
Really good to be able to play it at 60 FPS too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJd4q8OnnF0

I like Sonic 3D Blast personally. If I had to choose between which versions, I liked the Saturn more since I thought the soundtrack was very very well done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVVb8hOyQnQ&list=PLvNp0Boas723q7xhW1PEGc8X mp1yvldat&index=4

I'm sorry this shit was jamming as fuck back in the day!

I voted "Yes", of course.

The vast majority of 3D Sonic games are, at best, hot garbage.

Sonic 3D Blast has mediocre gameplay dedicated to nursing stupid flickies and it also has many flaws inherited from the isometric perspective.
But it has one key feature that the 3D Sonic games lack: you actually control Sonic all the time.

No cinematic on-rails crap, no vomit-inducing abrupt camera shifts, no scripted bs action, no dial-in combos, etc.
And a big fat bonus: no idiotic voice acting to pander to weirdos.

The Saturn version uses some horrendous presentation elements (very common to Saturn games, by the way), like the stage intro cards.
I've always preferred the MD game due to the chiptunes (albeit the distorted PCM playback hurts the drums) and the Director's Cut version is more pleasant to play than any other IMO.

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Originally Posted by BonusKun

I'm sorry this shit was jamming as fuck back in the day!

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My favorite track from 2.5D Blast.

It has earned a semi-permanent spot in my playlists, from the tape days (at the end of one of my best mixes, "Rainy Mix") to iPods to phones. Love Rusty Ruin.

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Originally Posted by Blades

I played all of them as they came out. I didn't love Colors either. It was too streamlined, like Heroes and the old 2D games. I did enjoy it, just not as much as the other entries.

I liked Unleashed, and I would've liked '06 if it was finished. I loved the soap opera plot of '06 indeed, but the gameplay really did have a lot of holes that weren't fixed before release.

If I really had to think about it, I would say the three Sonic Adventure games (Unleashed is 3) and the Shadow side story together are the best 3D Sonic game.

I've played too many Sonic games.

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There's no such thing as playing too many Sonic games!

I could see Colors being more enjoyable if you went through the game/your favorite levels multiple times, but nothing from my original experiences with each level made me want to replay them.

I agree with you about Unleashed and '06 (well... except for the soap opera plot). '06 also had some gamebreaking bugs. I figured a lot of people didn't like Unleashed, so I'm glad at least one other person does.

Sonic Adventure 2 is the worst 3D Sonic game.

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Originally Posted by Lync

Sonic Adventure 2 is the worst 3D Sonic game.

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It's mine too, well Sonic 06 is dire, but that's more because it unfinished

SA2 has a kick-ass opening level. It falls apart after that. Tho the Chao garden was great. That was the only thing that kept me playing.

Have you people actually played 3D Blast? To the end? Past Spring Stadium zone?

Nostalgia is one hell of a drug.

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Have you people actually played 3D Blast? To the end? Past Spring Stadium zone?

Nostalgia is one hell of a drug.

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No-one is saying Sonic 3D Blast is a "great" game, just that it is better than most of the modern 3D Sonic games. I've played through the entire game bitd and regularly play some of the levels. It's not anything like as good as the first 3 games but it's ok.

I played the 1st couple of levels of Unleashed last night and the day levels are an uncontrollable mess, except for the side on sections which are tolerable. The night level play like a dumbed down God of War ripoff aimed at kids - slow and boring. Let's not talk about the retarded "press the correct button to win" sections - they suck.

Edit - There are some of the 3D Sonic games the I think are ok, I often play levels of SA, Heroes and Colors, finished SA all through, although that has a lot of issues in the later levels.

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Originally Posted by Blades

Have you people actually played 3D Blast? To the end? Past Spring Stadium zone?
Nostalgia is one hell of a drug.

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Played the Director's Cut version today, on real hardware + CRT TV as intended and designed for.
Got one emerald per Zone as it's the maximum possible in this version.
Quite enjoyable Sonic game.

It doesn't matter if 3D Blast is better or worse than the others because most 3d sonic games are, at best, mediocre.

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Originally Posted by Blades

Have you people actually played 3D Blast? To the end? Past Spring Stadium zone?

Nostalgia is one hell of a drug.

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I never found the original Sonic games anywhere near as good as people made them out to be, I enjoyed SEGA's Japan Disney series of games more. I found Sonic to be better on 3D: running into the screen as fast as you can, was better for me than running left to right as fast as you can. I also enjoyed Sonic Adv big set pieces more like the Killer Whale or hanging off the Helicopter in SA. I never got why Sonic controlled so perfectly in Sonic Adv, but not so tight in the other 3D games

I've enjoyed most of the 3D ones mind and really like the Boost style of game. I just wished SEGA ever remade a sequel to Generations or remade Sonic Adv in the Hedgehog engine. Generations was so good and it's just amazing now on the Series X

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Originally Posted by Blades

Have you people actually played 3D Blast? To the end? Past Spring Stadium zone?

Nostalgia is one hell of a drug.

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I finished it, granted only on an emulator. I mostly only cared about seeing what its like.
The music was good (Megadrive version) and I liked how the last level was a giant Eggman statue. The final boss was extremely annoying for the first minute, then a pushover once you know the patterns.

I had not played it ever since, but sometimes I still load up the music, some tracks were actually memorable (and some have even been re-used for Sonic Adventure!).

No. It's about on par. Which is "way underappreciated". Because let's count Sonic games:
Sonic Adventure 1-2 - good.
Sonic Heroes - good, with a few hiccups here and there
Shadow the Hedgehog - doesn't count, but even if it did, it's middling. The levels themselves are good, the visuals are passable, the OST is... actually one of my favorite in the series, but it's marred by a really bad story and some poor missions.
Sonic '06 - bad, had potential, but wasn't cooked to completion, so... yeah, just plain bad.
Sonic Unleashed HD - good. All of it. Both halves. I don't care and screw you.
Sonic Colors - good
Sonic Generations - good
Sonic Lost World - pretty bad, yeah, it's the one I hate the most
Sonic Forces - mediocre. It's playable, it's got some good music, the Avatar was a good idea, but the level designs really bring it down due to how simplistic they are.

Oh, and Sonic Boom, I guess. Obviously bad.

I didn't play Storybook games and Unwiished, but from what I can tell the Secret Rings is poor, Black Knight is love it or hate it and Unwiished is somewhat weaker than its HD cousin but still not that bad of a time.

So this leaves us with... four bad games, three middling ones and six good ones? Not the best track record, but it's not all that bad either.

And as for 3D Blast itself - yeah, it's good. I had a good time. A solid 8. Beat it in one sitting with all the Chaos Emeralds a couple of years back (it was before the Director's Cut hack).

Eh… it’s better than about a third of the 3D games, and is equal to the majority of the rest.