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This purchase isn’t about Xbox dude. They don’t care about Sony and their cute little console. This is about the future and fighting for Cloud gaming between Google, Meta (Facebook) and Apple. The days of Sony and MS manufacturing new consoles are coming to a close. There may not be a PS6, or Xbox next, because they want us all to be on digital gaming services.Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Andromeda
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Originally Posted by gamevet
Dude, I wish I could have repped you twice but I did it once at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
You're dead right about the real target here.
The Xbox is nothing more than a smokescreen for MS at this point. It's all about the cloud service race.
The gaming service is one area of cloud computing where MS has a clear advantage over Amazon and they're trying to explore it as much as possible. The pandemic was a blessing for all companies you cited but especially for Amazon.
OTOH, traditional companies such as IBM and Oracle have pretty much lost the race and they're in clear decline.
I'd suggest reading articles like these:
https://www.barrons.com/articles/ora...th-51615478653
https://www.ft.com/content/ded67317-...1-fc72646dee12
https://siliconangle.com/2021/11/13/...-accelerating/
https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/...oft-vs-amazon/
This is all about making the 'Xbox' being the gaming capital of the world. I love SEGA to be a part of that myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
When you're spending nearly $90 billion dollars, it's no smokescreen, but intent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barone
It has nothing to do with Xbox. It's about becoming a digital service where everything from your games saves to the games you play, will be streamed from the cloud. There's no money in selling physical hardware. The Xbox console, itself, will never make back that $68 billion and in the past 20 years Xbox hasn't even scratched the surface of that number. Cloud gaming is the future and MS is making a hard push to be at the top, while Google, Sony, Nvidia and the rest of the gang are still trying to figure out how to get in on the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Andromeda
You might want to brush up on Cloud Computing. Nvidia is using it to do deep learning and other services.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing
Dear GOD man read the newsQuote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
https://twitter.com/_XboxNews/status...36576864673792
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2022/01/...rosoft-gaming/
GO team XBOX !!!
It's also laughable to see a PC gamer moan about the Cloud when so many PC gamers are now only online only. So spare us on the digital front, when so many PC games are only available digitally & you more than most enjoy digital gaming.
Dude, you're being an idiot. MS didn't get into console gaming, just to make games. It's been a long focused ride to make a box to provide digital services for everything. And it most certainly isn't about PCs either. Those are so small, compared to the real plan.
https://www.spglobal.com/marketintel...-deal-68471601
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Originally Posted by spglobal
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At the forefront of Microsoft's gaming strategy is its Game Pass subscription service, which gives members access to a revolving slate of games from a wide variety of developers, including Electronic Arts Inc. The games can be downloaded onto Xbox consoles and Windows PCs or streamed via the cloud on those devices. Game Pass also supports Android smartphones and tablets.
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However, the primary selling point of the service is that it offers first-party games developed by Microsoft's internal studios on the day of their commercial launch. Upon close of the acquisition, Microsoft will include Activision's games in Game Pass, which now has more than 25 million subscribers, Spencer said in a statement.
The addition of Activision's games to Game Pass will continue Microsoft's goal to establish an all-encompassing, cross-device games ecosystem, said Jijiashvili.
While Microsoft will remain committed to its Xbox console business as its main focus for at least the first half of this decade, we will likely see higher prioritization of cloud and subscriptions towards the second half," Jijiashvili said.
While Game Pass' availability on mobile is a good start, it is not where most of Microsoft's games were made to be played, said Neil Barbour, an analyst for Kagan, a media research group within S&P Global Market Intelligence.
"The long-term goal here is to make Game Pass a streaming service available on connected TVs," Barbour said. "When it's available on all major platforms such as Roku and Android TV, then Microsoft can say gaming is for everyone."
It's not about Xbox. Stop being a blind fanboy!
I say from here on out. If TA calls anyone a fanboy he should be banned because holy fucking shit does no one acts more like a moron fanboy than him.
It's called facts mate, don't take my words for it take it from the boss of XboxQuote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
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As we extend the joy and community of gaming to everyone, we are incredibly excited to welcome the fantastic teams and iconic franchises of Activision Blizzard to Team Xbox
You use Gamepass just as much as I do and many new PC titles don't even have physical releases these days.
Then don't take our word for it, take it from David Rosen, the co-founder of Sega.Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Andromeda
https://by3301files.storage.live.com...&cropmode=none
No, you stupid idiotic knuckle draggin' fanboy. MS did not purchase Activision for XBOX. Their goal is much bigger than a shitty Xbox, or shitty PC. They want to dominate EVERYTHING. They want to be your television content provider (look at the launch of Xbox One), your internet content provider and your gaming service provider. Xbox is chump change for $2 trillion company. Go look at what companies like Google (Google Stadia and Youtube} Sony (PS now and PS+) and Amazon (Amazon prime services) are doing. They want a much bigger piece of the pie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Andromeda
Are you on drugs?Quote:
You use Gamepass just as much as I do and many new PC titles don't even have physical releases these days.
MS goal since the OG Xbox was to be the center of the living room all in one entertainment device. That was their message then and always has been. MS was trying with the Windows Media PC. Zune. Mid-2000s OEM PCs started being bundled with Windows XP media edition.
Can't wait for Windows 10 Windows Media Center Edition Home Edition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leynos
Maybe we would just abandon electronics and go outside. Maybe it's not so bad after all.
You won't have to worry about that. Skynet will take us all out, once they flip the switch.
SEGA warned us. "...it's thinking..."
Yes they did!
But to be fair isn't that what a lot of big tech companies have tried to accomplish? Remove the proprietary hardware and create a service you can stream? I get the feeling that Microsoft doesn't really care what platform you play on, they might offer to put GamePass on PlayStation sometime in the near future. They just want to get paid when people play games, many of which will be on their service because they own it. I kinda don't think that means those games won't be elsewhere, but they're still going to get royalties. They want to be the Disney of gaming. They'll only offer the Xbox console for as long as people continue to buy it, but eventually Xbox will just be something you stream from your TV. Same strategy as everyone else though; you may or may not need a GamePass sub on other devices to access the Microsoft library.
Yeah and Sony is testing the waters by putting their games out on PC. Meanwhile Nintendo will be Nintendo and just stay the course.
LOL I have't posted here much recently, but it makes me laugh to see that TA is still being an ignorant, boneheaded dumbass.:D
But back on topic, my opinion is that assuming this transaction goes through without any issues with antitrust/monopoly issues, then the next couple of years are going to be very interesting in the game industry. I suspect that both Amazon and possibly Google will be closely watching what happens with it and, if it is allowed then they will also start to make acquisitions of the same scale. I believe that Amazon will want to compete with their Luna platform and might start making a move on the likes of EA.
I believe even Sony themselves may end up a target, especially when you have giants with trillion dollar market caps moving in on their turf.
As for consoles they will be dead within the next 10 years, both Playstation and Xbox will transition to subscription service apps that download to a streaming stick, tablet or phone. Modern consoles suck anyway, overpriced, dumbed down PCs with gimped features - good riddence IMO. I don't give a shit about modern games either, mostly sequels and 4K remakes - bleeehh :yuck:
What sort of childish rant is that LOL. You may not like it or agree with it, but log into Gamepass on the PC, the Mobile, whatever and see the 'Xbox' logo used not the windows, Xbox is now integrated into Windows 11 . Go to MS official site and see the MS gaming development teams come under the Xbox brand. It's all about Xbox and pushing Gamepass be that on PC, Console or Mobile. When MS buys a new gaming studio it's welcome the 'Xbox' family, when MS does a show to show off its new studios its Xbox & Bethesda showcase EctQuote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
The old wind-ups and the days of Xbox having no IP's, no developers, selling its Xbox division, Satya Nadella has no interest in the gaming division Ect, Ect are long gone; The PS fans on social media and forums had their moment and fun in the sun, but they in-part helped to create a monster, with Xbox now having over 30 In-House game studios and they're still not finished yet..
Great time to be an Xbox fan and Gamepass gamer.
Let's all knock it off with the namecalling and the insults in this thread.
Yakuza is a great series, and Persona/SMT is a video game series for weeaboos with no mass appeal at all, sales be damned. From the company that gave us:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
After Burner Climax
Sega Rally
Daytona USA
2D Sonic games
Streets of Rage
Castle of Illusion (and the remake) Quackshot, World of Illusion
Billy Hatcher
NiGHTS into Dreams
Comix Zone
Golden Axe
Vectorman
Jet Set Radio
Outrun and Outrun 2
Space Harrier
Panzer Dragoon
House of the Dead
Crazy Taxi
Streets of Rage
Die Hard Arcade
Ecco the Dolphin
Shinobi
Virtua Fighter
Virtua Cop
Shining Force
Derby Owner's Club
Star Wars Trilogy Arcade
Phantasy Star
Super Monkey Ball
I should be impressed with SEGA's recent output? Almost Every single one of these game series hasn't gotten a new game in ages. Pump out all of the Yakuza, crummy Sonic games, and sequels of Football Manager that you want. Doesnt mean I will be impressed by SEGA's recent output or Atlas titles outside of Yakuza. One series shouldn't make this company. Let me get hyped for Sonic Origins, the 90th rerelease of games I've already played.
SEGA should have just developed on the NES and Snes, but apparently, SEGA did what Nintendo doesn't, bar only limit your games to your console. It's not like Nintendo even allows their games on the PC, which at least SEGA had the sense to do and now it seems even SONY is remembering what it was like to allow your games to come on the PC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
Let's just hope Xbox finally buys SEGA and all SEGA's money worries are over
That's being selective and a little unfair, We've had sequels to of those IP and they bombed regardless of the quality, case in point JSRF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
Overlooking the likes of Yakuza 6 was one of the best in the series. Valkyria Chronicles 4 was amazing, Alien Isolation is one of the best horror games ever made. Sakura Wars (PS4) was a lovely game that looked stunning, Judgement a totally brilliant spin-off , Fist of the North Star: Lost Paradise a total blast from start to finish and Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis a lovely update. Maybe you should try and buy those games? and find out, that some of SEGA recent output isn't too bad at all.
Hopefully, now that Nahoshi-san is gone & with SEGA looking to spend big on games, have a new studio, they'll be even more creatively at SEGA
Someone rep this post cuz it hits the damn nail on the head. Sega is better where they are which isn't much of anything outside of farming their IPs to people who give more of a shit about them then they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
Also holy shit TA. The next time you call Lenyos a Nintendo fanboy, I'm going to remember this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Andromeda
How many games last gen did you buy that was made by SEGA In House last gen?. Also, it's not always like outsourcing works like we saw with Sonic boomQuote:
Originally Posted by BonusKun
Please don't hit back with insulting or degrading comments. Did you actually 'buy' and play the likes of Valkyria Chronicles 4, Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis, Sakura Wars, Judgment, Yakuza 6, Fist of the North Star?
The only game I bought was Fist of the Northstar because the other games were boring as hell to me.
"weebos" Easy dismiss millions of sales because you don't like it. So you generalize. What a stupid mass ignorant generalization. You move goalposts and dismiss great successes by SEGA to fit your own shitty narrative. EVERY 3rd party developer has reduced the number of IPs they develop. Games take more effort, resources, and money now. It's Riskier for any developer to pump out a billion IPs and guess what all those IPs we love from SEGA's past DIDN'T MAKE THEM SHIT. Why they don't make consoles. Oh, poor 45-50-year-old SEGA fan wants his Altered Beast. Who gives a shit? SEGA is not trying to appeal to you. There weren't enough of you in the 90s to keep them going. They are not suddenly going to make all those games again because Company X bought them. They would be even safer than before. Smaller indie teams would not be making Panzer Dragoon Remakes or Sonic Manias.
Oh and not to mention a number of those IPs mentioned have had a new entry or remake. House of the Dead is getting one but we gotta dismiss that too somehow. Doesn't fit the narrative of WAAAH MY SEGA.
Persona sells millions not to "weebos" but to people who like good games. Same with SMT. They are far from the "weebo" narrative. You just assume without playing any of them. "they look anime, therefore, weeb shit" I'm sorry but these games are not a Kagura or Neptunia. That is weeb shit.
Yakuza is not for "weebos" as holy shit that series is anything but.
You act like a child, you get treated as a child. Did you post this while wearing your Sonic Undroos, boys ages 8-12?Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Andromeda
I’m not even going to waste my time responding to the rest of your nonsense here.
My own thing on this take is some of these games are just a lil too cringy for me. I'm not calling them weeaboo games but they've never caught my interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leynos
When do you think that quote by Rosen was made? The mind boggles at this response, Sega fans should not have this lack of awareness.Quote:
SEGA should have just developed on the NES and Snes, but apparently, SEGA did what Nintendo doesn't, bar only limit your games to your console.
I forgot about Sakura Wars! Great game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Andromeda
Yes you should, because I've enjoyed Sega's in-house output more than any other developer these past few years, and so have my friends. I don't care about covered-in-mothballs Golden Axe. I'm so done with reboots that are designed for people like you that say these exact things. Even Yakuza is getting long in the tooth, which is why I welcomed Judgment. Quality is what matters, not arbitrary names from 30 years ago.Quote:
Yakuza is a great series, and Persona/SMT is a video game series for weeaboos with no mass appeal at all, sales be damned. From the company that gave us:
~Title Diarrhea~
I should be impressed with SEGA's recent output? Almost Every single one of these game series hasn't gotten a new game in ages.
I swear, it feels like people just want to time travel back 20 years without understanding anything about what made those times special. I guess it's a sign of the times.
You think you're better than the Persona people?
I play plenty of games with "anime" art. Person and SMT are weeaboo games that 95% of Americans would find bizarre and would never buy hardware to play. I never said Yakuza was for weebs, but Persona and SMT are. It is my opinion. I don't give a shit whether or not Persona fans are a sensitive bunch. There is a wide berth of Americans who think video games are for children as a whole. They have all the right to hold that opinion when people spend 40 hours in front of a screen enjoying straight weirdo trash instead of reading a book.
And I listed literally over 20 franchises that SEGA has either only put out a remake or hasnt touched that they could make games for and don't. Even as a publisher they've been ice cold. They let Nintendo poach Bayonetta.
If you think Football Manager, crummy 3D Sonic games, Yakuza and SMT are selling a console in 2022 you are a fanboy. Yeah these "greats successes" are why SEGA's stock is $14 a share and Nintendo's stock over $500 a share. Now you tell me the "successes" that I am ignoring. I dont disagree that SEGA has a few minor hit franchises under its belt right now, but that is not some massive success. I don't work for SEGA, and I don't need to defend the company. The average gamer can see they are totally asleep at the wheel as a whole.
Anyone can see that all of the games I listed in the previous post have broad appeal across a wide variety of genres. You cannot say the same about the SEGA of 2022. I didn't even mention when Sega had games like World Series Baseball and 2K sports. They were a full development company with a lot of different franchises. Now they are a husk.
Leynos, the only one crying is you because you can't handle the criticism.
I’ve been trying to get into Persona on the PSP. The bubblegum pop music is ear bleeding annoying and several of the characters are cringy looking. I don’t even know if I want to try PS5 on the PS3, after seeing that. It feels like an RPG made for little girls.
Yes he does. "most Americans find it bizarre" as if that has any real meaning. Because what Americans think means more. Americans think something is strange therefore it can't be good. Even tho those games sold the best in the US but again gotta change the narrative! He's so full of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
Persona 5 is rated M and not for nudity or anything. For language and subject matter. P5 is known to have one of the better soundtracks of its generation with a heavily Jazz-influenced OST. P5R is the game to go with. Personally not played Persona 3 so I can't comment much on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
SMT is not about saving the world. The world is ruined. SMTIII and V esp deal in finding your place in a post world. SMT is very desolate and dark. Do you want to become a god? Kill God? Let everything stagnate and die? Your choice. No good or bad ending. Just what you want to align with.
I have to say, as an American, saying "Americans think..." is almost never a good argument for anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leynos
I guess we can let Baloo enjoy playing Call of Duty for the zillionth time. After all, look at the stock price! If it makes you feel more like a man to blow a polygonal Nazi's head off, knock yourself out.
I mean he's not totally wrong blades. All those Sega IPs really can't hold a candle to people who play a ton of Wow, Candy Cursh, or CoD. I'm not saying they're bad games but they're nowhere near as known as those other IPs.
OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
Funny how you call for fewer insults and name-calling and then in almost the same sentence calling people "weeaboos". How ironic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
I'm not sure why calling out TA for being an obtuse console fanboy (which he is) is wrong, but it is perfectly ok to insult people who enjoy games, Japanese culture, and Anime in general. Interesting.
Now now Stu, You know he wasn't calling anyone in particular a weeaboo. I think in general the term is more to describe the type of games that they are. Unless you can maybe come up with a single word to describe these type of games, I think weeaboo is pretty much on point. lol
I don't agree that that diminishes their value. The mass-appealing IPs sell great, but they are replaceable by the next mass-appealing IP. Their inherent value is minimal. Meanwhile, fans clamored for Yakuza 5 in English for years, until Sony relented and financed it themselves. It wasn't a colossal hit, but Yakuza is still around. Demand like that will always be small because of human nature, but it is steady. Notice that they're now rereleasing the Yakuza games, even the PS2 originals a few years ago. When will the original Halo on Xbox be rereleased? Nagoshi still had to go through hell and back to get Yakuza 1 published with Sega, but he was able to.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonusKun
Throwing away Sega's traditional focus on creativity for short-term profits would be a colossal mistake in the long run. We have seen what this type of thinking leads to with GM, Ford, and Chrysler. Where are they now? Where is Konami?