CDX or X'Eye?

X'Eye over the CDX because:

-Cool design
-Cool Bios screen and background music. Because of the X'Eye, North America got all 3 bios songs.
-Plays unchipped Mega Drive games out of the box, with no mods needed.
-Allows you to use your standard AV cable, instead of the proprietary one. Having two av outs has its uses too.
-Has a very sharp picture to it. You'd swear it was S-Video.
-Cool design
-Works for karoke I believe
-Built very well. Don't see broken X eyes very often.

The CDX does have a few advantages including it's size, better 32x/master system compatibility, and better pack in games.

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Soundwave says, "X'Eye, superior. CDX, inferior."

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Originally Posted by Team Andromeda

so you little exuse

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"So your little excuse"

Wondermega.

Basically the Japanese version of the X'Eye, only it has a better design, lights up (I think there's like a ring of LEDs around the disc tray lid) and the ability to open the disc tray with your controller (because who wants to be bothered with lifting it manually?)

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Originally Posted by JRedmond3

Wondermega.

Basically the Japanese version of the X'Eye, only it has a better design, lights up (I think there's like a ring of LEDs around the disc tray lid) and the ability to open the disc tray with your controller (because who wants to be bothered with lifting it manually?)

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does it work with megacart?

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Originally Posted by JRedmond3

Wondermega.

Basically the Japanese version of the X'Eye, only it has a better design, lights up (I think there's like a ring of LEDs around the disc tray lid) and the ability to open the disc tray with your controller (because who wants to be bothered with lifting it manually?)

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Yeah, the WonderMega is basically god's gift to gaming in my opinion. I love the design of the console and it doesn't hurt that I'm a huge Sega CD fanboy as well.

CDX because it is compact and incredibly stylish. One of the best looking consoles of any era.

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Originally Posted by bultje112

does it work with megacart?

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Nope it doesn't .

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Originally Posted by bultje112

does it work with megacart?

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I suggest you read this thread.

http://www.tototek.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1423

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Originally Posted by cheaterdragon1

X'Eye over the CDX because:
-Plays unchipped Mega Drive games out of the box, with no mods needed.
-Allows you to use your standard AV cable, instead of the proprietary one. Having two av outs has its uses too.
-Has a very sharp picture to it. You'd swear it was S-Video.

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Cheaterdragon1 brought up some excellent points.

I have both an X'Eye and a CDX. I voted for the X'Eye because it really is the better system. As mentioned above, the X'Eye has a wide cart slot that requires no modification to play import games. You can hook it up with standard AV cables. It is also compatible with all Sega CD games. The CDX will lock up when you try to play Jurassic Park or The Terminator. If I could only have one system, that would be the deal breaker for me as I love both of those games.

The X'Eye also has a more accurate video output than the CDX. Throw Ys III into the system and watch the intro. When the pillars scroll by, the white areas of them have a bleeding rainbow effect on the CDX. On the X'Eye all of the colors scroll as they should and the whites of the pillars are sharp and crisp with no rainbow effect. In all honestly, its a small difference, because the rainbowing is fairly subtle, but it does show that the X'Eye has better video output.

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Originally Posted by Silence The Fallen

The CDX will lock up when you try to play Jurassic Park or The Terminator

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No, it doesn't. This has been discussed and tested several times by those of us with CDXs and those games. They run just fine on the CDX. Why do people keep repeating this myth when it's been debunked for years?

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Originally Posted by Chilly Willy

No, it doesn't. This has been discussed and tested several times by those of us with CDXs and those games. They run just fine on the CDX. Why do people keep repeating this myth when it's been debunked for years?

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It's no myth to me. It's quite true. I have both a CDX and an X'Eye. I have original store bought copies of both Jurassic Park and The Terminator. On the CDX Jurassic Park locks up on the first screen with the helicopter crash. It plays fine until you try to leave the screen and then it locks up. The Terminator plays perfectly fine and has no issues but randomly locks up during the first stage.

Neither of these games have issues on my X'Eye but they lock up every time on my CDX.

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Originally Posted by Silence The Fallen

It's no myth to me. It's quite true. I have both a CDX and an X'Eye. I have original store bought copies of both Jurassic Park and The Terminator. On the CDX Jurassic Park locks up on the first screen with the helicopter crash. It plays fine until you try to leave the screen and then it locks up. The Terminator plays perfectly fine and has no issues but randomly locks up during the first stage.

Neither of these games have issues on my X'Eye but they lock up every time on my CDX.

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Probably trouble with the laser assembly then. I've got both and never seen a problem. There's a thread here somewhere where a bunch of us CDX owners tried those two and some others, and virtually everyone has no trouble. Naturally some people will have troubles with any game regardless of what model they have... it's just the way things go with consoles, especially CD based ones. That doesn't mean that the model cannot EVER play that game, but that's how it's been stated about the CDX.

I was going to post some opinions on which I like better, but watching people fight over differences in opinions and then someone else saying "ban him" is not really something I agree with.

Everybody has their own opinions, and believes in something else, there is no need to clobber someone on the head until they agree with you.

The only time you need to feel that strongly about something in my opinion is when it infringes on someones human rights or equality or that sort. otherwise isn't this a passion and hobby about fun things, aka games? FUN , might I reiterate.

:P

I vote cdx. simply because it reminds me of the japanese stuff my granny bought when I was a kid.

I might go the pioneer laserdisc setup with the ability to play sega and watch laserdiscs, but thats another more exotic tech :P

jvc has more compatibilty though, with lacking region lock and all.

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Originally Posted by Chilly Willy

Probably trouble with the laser assembly then. I've got both and never seen a problem. There's a thread here somewhere where a bunch of us CDX owners tried those two and some others, and virtually everyone has no trouble. Naturally some people will have troubles with any game regardless of what model they have... it's just the way things go with consoles, especially CD based ones. That doesn't mean that the model cannot EVER play that game, but that's how it's been stated about the CDX.

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I suppose it could be the laser assembly. I'm not very tech savvy.

All I know is that I have heard countless times that those two specific games have issues with the CDX and both of mine DO have issues with my CDX. I have 58 Sega CD games. They all play perfectly fine on my X'Eye and all of them play perfectly fine on my CDX except for Jurassic Park and The Terminator. I would imagine if something like the laser assembly was having issues I would encounter problems with at least a few other titles.

Honestly it has been a few years since I last tried them. To refresh my memory i just set down for an hour and played them both on my X'Eye and CDX. They played fine on my X'Eye. On the CDX Jurassic Park locks up every time I try to leave the first screen. I click on the cave, the music changes to the "traveling music", but the FMV of you going through the cave never loads. It just freezes. Every time.

When I played The Terminator I actually made it to the second stage before it locked up while my character was in mid jump. Usually it locks up somewhere in the first stage. Whereas Jurassic Park seems to lock up when loading FMV, The Terminator seems completely random. I can't figure out what triggers it.

Like you said, maybe it is the laser assembly, but I find it difficult to believe its just coincidence that the TWO specific games "rumored" to have issues with the CDX are the ONLY games that have issues on my CDX.

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Originally Posted by Silence The Fallen

I suppose it could be the laser assembly. I'm not very tech savvy.

All I know is that I have heard countless times that those two specific games have issues with the CDX and both of mine DO have issues with my CDX. I have 58 Sega CD games. They all play perfectly fine on my X'Eye and all of them play perfectly fine on my CDX except for Jurassic Park and The Terminator. I would imagine if something like the laser assembly was having issues I would encounter problems with at least a few other titles.

Honestly it has been a few years since I last tried them. To refresh my memory i just set down for an hour and played them both on my X'Eye and CDX. They played fine on my X'Eye. On the CDX Jurassic Park locks up every time I try to leave the first screen. I click on the cave, the music changes to the "traveling music", but the FMV of you going through the cave never loads. It just freezes. Every time.

When I played The Terminator I actually made it to the second stage before it locked up while my character was in mid jump. Usually it locks up somewhere in the first stage. Whereas Jurassic Park seems to lock up when loading FMV, The Terminator seems completely random. I can't figure out what triggers it.

Like you said, maybe it is the laser assembly, but I find it difficult to believe its just coincidence that the TWO specific games "rumored" to have issues with the CDX are the ONLY games that have issues on my CDX.

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People who tell you these games don't work don't have a CDX... they're repeating what they've heard from someone else... who also doesn't have a CDX. Like I said, a number of us who DO have CDXs got together and tried EVERY SINGLE GAME commonly bandied about as "not compatible with the CDX," and every one of them works fine for most of us.

Now what I've seen on my CDX is it's VERY picky about the brand of CDR you use. It is also more susceptible to scratches than my model 2 CD. So if your game has a slight scratch, it may cause the CDX to fail. What I've done in that case is copy the CD to a CDR of a type I know my CDX will read, and that clears the problem up. That would be my suggestion to you - find a brand of CDR that your CDX likes and then copy those discs that fail and try the CDR. Odds are it will work fine. Picky optics are the main complaint (almost the only complaint) I have on the CDX.

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Originally Posted by Chilly Willy

People who tell you these games don't work don't have a CDX... they're repeating what they've heard from someone else... who also doesn't have a CDX. Like I said, a number of us who DO have CDXs got together and tried EVERY SINGLE GAME commonly bandied about as "not compatible with the CDX," and every one of them works fine for most of us.

Now what I've seen on my CDX is it's VERY picky about the brand of CDR you use. It is also more susceptible to scratches than my model 2 CD. So if your game has a slight scratch, it may cause the CDX to fail. What I've done in that case is copy the CD to a CDR of a type I know my CDX will read, and that clears the problem up. That would be my suggestion to you - find a brand of CDR that your CDX likes and then copy those discs that fail and try the CDR. Odds are it will work fine. Picky optics are the main complaint (almost the only complaint) I have on the CDX.

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You love your machine!!! :)

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Originally Posted by MEGADRIVER1

You love your machine!!! :)

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Mostly. :D I do use it more than any of my other SEGA stuff.

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Originally Posted by Chilly Willy

Mostly. :D I do use it more than any of my other SEGA stuff.

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Mostly. Ahaha that love hate relationship. Its like my father and his numerous bikes. which are italian. which means bits fall off, because thats what gives ducati character and personality. especially if they are new and the mirror falls off etc. And he still loves them, going to ducati bikeshows on his birthday. loves them. mostly. :P lol. Love is unconditional!! :P lol

For me it's the CDX, its sleek, compact and still looks good next to all my current game consoles.
I'd like to get a X'Eye some time but after I find a Turbo Duo!

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Originally Posted by Chilly Willy

People who tell you these games don't work don't have a CDX... they're repeating what they've heard from someone else... who also doesn't have a CDX. Like I said, a number of us who DO have CDXs got together and tried EVERY SINGLE GAME commonly bandied about as "not compatible with the CDX," and every one of them works fine for most of us.

Now what I've seen on my CDX is it's VERY picky about the brand of CDR you use. It is also more susceptible to scratches than my model 2 CD. So if your game has a slight scratch, it may cause the CDX to fail. What I've done in that case is copy the CD to a CDR of a type I know my CDX will read, and that clears the problem up. That would be my suggestion to you - find a brand of CDR that your CDX likes and then copy those discs that fail and try the CDR. Odds are it will work fine. Picky optics are the main complaint (almost the only complaint) I have on the CDX.

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It could also be an issue of a particular batch of CDX hardware has issues with those two games.

I prefer my X'Eye because it was super easy for me to get in and do a region mod for the cart. Since I wanted it to look as stock as possible, I control the region with a tiny slide switch under the tray cover. In the picture, it is the black thing just below the right hand side hinge on the tray cover. I also added a bi-color power LED so that I can keep track of which region it is in. Unfortunately, I can't remember which color is for which region so I usually just put a cart in and see if it works. If not, flip the switch and try again.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...nSwitch005.jpg

X'eye because it looks cooler :cool:

The X'eye definitely looks much better.. I wonder if there is a audio/video difference between the two.

I think i asked this before, but is there anyway to mod X'eye with V.2.00 bios?

If not, it loses automatically. Not hearing/seeing the legendary V.2.00 screen upon start-up takes some of the magic out of the Sega CD experience.

The mega everdrive lets you load a sega cd bios into a system, you could look into that option.

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Originally Posted by Saturn Fan

I think i asked this before, but is there anyway to mod X'eye with V.2.00 bios?

If not, it loses automatically. Not hearing/seeing the legendary V.2.00 screen upon start-up takes some of the magic out of the Sega CD experience.

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Originally Posted by Drakon

The mega everdrive lets you load a sega cd bios into a system, you could look into that option.

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Wait, what? You can play Sega CD Roms with Mega Everdrive?

sega cd BIOS.

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Originally Posted by Saturn Fan

Wait, what? You can play Sega CD Roms with Mega Everdrive?

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Originally Posted by TurboRotary

The X'eye definitely looks much better.. I wonder if there is a audio/video difference between the two.

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It's not significant. A few years back I ran some audio video tests on both since I was going to keep one and sell the other, and I liked the audio/video quality of the X'Eye over the CDX by just a touch, but it was like splitting hairs. Both were excellent.

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Originally Posted by Saturn Fan

Wait, what? You can play Sega CD Roms with Mega Everdrive?

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To clarify, you can use the Everdrive to boot an alternate Sega CD bios from another region so that you can actually play Sega/Mega CD games from other regions. You'll need discs of the actual games still (copies or real) to play the games though. You can't play Sega CD games from just the Everdrive as far as I know.

Correct my man.

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Originally Posted by xelement5x

To clarify, you can use the Everdrive to boot an alternate Sega CD bios from another region so that you can actually play Sega/Mega CD games from other regions. You'll need discs of the actual games still (copies or real) to play the games though. You can't play Sega CD games from just the Everdrive as far as I know.

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Originally Posted by xelement5x

To clarify, you can use the Everdrive to boot an alternate Sega CD bios from another region so that you can actually play Sega/Mega CD games from other regions. You'll need discs of the actual games still (copies or real) to play the games though. You can't play Sega CD games from just the Everdrive as far as I know.

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Darn. Eh the bios is great at least. I can't imagine booting up a Sega CD without the V.2.00 Bios.


~TG, 'cause the others suuuuuuuck....

Wait....does this mean a japanese or euro Sega CD can be attached and work with a U.S Genesis?

Yeah, the only thing that determines the region of the system is just the bios chip.

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Originally Posted by Saturn Fan

Wait....does this mean a japanese or euro Sega CD can be attached and work with a U.S Genesis?

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The fuck you talking about? The Sega CD is not compatible with Genesis units from different regions. It'll work with one only if there is already a region mod in the Genesis; just switch it over to match the region of the Sega CD and you're good. But frankly it's probably going to cost you about as much to get the mods and the extra Sega CD units as to get a single unit and a decent flash cart with BIOS on them. The Genny only boots up the Sega CD when there isn't a cart inside, so with a flash cart you can bootstrap alternate BIOS for the unit and get past that region incompatibility between components.

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Originally Posted by muteKi

The fuck you talking about? The Sega CD is not compatible with Genesis units from different regions. It'll work with one only if there is already a region mod in the Genesis; just switch it over to match the region of the Sega CD and you're good. But frankly it's probably going to cost you about as much to get the mods and the extra Sega CD units as to get a single unit and a decent flash cart with BIOS on them. The Genny only boots up the Sega CD when there isn't a cart inside, so with a flash cart you can bootstrap alternate BIOS for the unit and get past that region incompatibility between components.

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I figured even though there was a cart in the slot, booting up Bios for the CD causes it to activate and lets a Sega CD game be played.

Otherwise, whats the point in being able to boot bios from the everdrive?

Sega CD simply sees a valid BIOS file then runs it. Sega CD units do not know whether their BIOS has been loaded from inside, or using the cart slot.

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Originally Posted by lumclaw

Sega CD simply sees a valid BIOS file then runs it. Sega CD units do not know whether their BIOS has been loaded from inside, or using the cart slot.

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Soooo.....then it doesn't matter what region the Genesis is? So long as the proper Bios are booted up?

Which is what I was trying to say. The only "region lockout" on a sega cd that I know of is just the region in the bios. Bypass the bios and load another one and your segacd from whatever region should run fine on your system.

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Originally Posted by Saturn Fan

Soooo.....then it doesn't matter what region the Genesis is? So long as the proper Bios are booted up?

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Using a patched BIOS is bypass the region check will get any title to LOAD, but once it is running, the game itself might check the region on the MD side, or it might be written to assume the hardware was NTSC or PAL and not support the other. So getting a CD game to run may require more than simply bypassing the region check in the CD BIOS. That's where you may need a region mod on the MD to get the game to work.