Basically I believe that cartridge consoles will last long if handled with care; but CD-systems are naturally more sensitive, with the lens being a milimeter off resulting in errors..... Overheating is a problem with modern consoles too.
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Basically I believe that cartridge consoles will last long if handled with care; but CD-systems are naturally more sensitive, with the lens being a milimeter off resulting in errors..... Overheating is a problem with modern consoles too.
No I have two SNES systems they both work fine and ones an original (has the separate Mitsumi sound processing box in the rear corner)
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There aren't much caps in them and many of them seem to be those solid polymer type.
I've got one same model (the separate SPU one) :)
Cart based systems do get minor wear on the contacts, meaning they will go from being a firm connection to losing contact when you bump the system, to having to wiggle the cart to get connect till lastly the contact become totally unreliable.Quote:
Originally Posted by 108 Stars
But that will happen a very long time after any CD-console has already died.
I've never had any problems with a Saturn on the CD end, but one of my Saturns doesn't recognize cartridges anymore, and I've heard of other people having that problem.
Both my Genesis and SMS no longer have a firm tight connection with cartridges and while both still makes a good connection every time I insert a cart, both loses the connection whenever I accidentally bump the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by 108 Stars
of course that CAN happen and will happen someday...
but still cartridge systems are generally much less sensitive than anything that runs CDs or DVDs....my MD has survived a lot of traveling and still works; not like on day 1, as the deepest part of the cart slot seems dead (I must not push the cart in completely), but overall....Iīd say that this comes from the parts contained in such old consoles being much simpler and sturdier.
CD-players on the other hand....I have 3 defective audio CD players, 1 defective DVD-player,3 defective PlayStations and one defective Dreamcast; my PS2 did a fine job since 2001 so far, but I donīt expect that to last much longer.
Itīs the same with many of todayīs electronics; the higher developed it is, the more damageable it is. With CD systems a bit of dust on the lens or slightly wrong adjustment can cause malfunctioning. You can throw Mega Drives or SNES against the wall on the other hand and nothing happens; or fix such issues as the pins in the cart slot not having contact with rather primitive means, while adjusting a lens is a delicate and tedious job.
I think all of you are confusing necessary maintenance once every 20 years with complete system death. I have a CD player that used to be my sisters from like 95 and she used it daily for hours at a time and it still works just fine. Hell, my dad has a REALLY old magazine load CD player from the 80's and it still works brilliantly.
I mean, come on guys, there are original Pac Man arcades still in working order all over the place. Yeah, you may have to buy a new cartridge slot or clean the laser every once in a while, but true, unfixable death is years and years off. Like I already said, my original NES still has kung fu grip like when it was new, you have to just treat it gently, not smash your games in and rip them out at odd angles. Aren't Genesis cart slots removable? you could probably take it out and clean it with a toothbrush and some rubbing alcohol or anti-corrosion electronic cleaner and have it work like new. There's about a 90% chance the "looseness" is from dirt slightly lubricating the slot rather than the metal getting looser. Permanently bending pins is difficult (more like impossible) to do with proper operation and the minimal wear from insertion would take literally thousands if not millions of cycles to completely render it inoperable.
And how many first model SPCH-1XXX to 3XXX series PSX's don't work now? The first few model variations of the PSX CD-ROM lens rides on plastic rails that wore out in some cases in less than one year! No amount of maintenance or cleaning can fix them. What about model 1 Sega CDs too for that matter! It just Depends on how well the drive assembly was built to begin with. I mean even DCs are failing left, right and center. CD players only have to read a linear audio CD at 1X so its a little less complicated as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
That is correct. There are things that cannot be solved just by handling the systems with care; I do so too, believe me, but whenever there are cheap parts used or manufacturing errors defects that can not be solved just by cleaning are inaviteable.
This may also come from the price range in which you buy products; with consoles you have no choice, but for example I can imagine that my 70 Euro CD-Player just has cheaper parts in it.
And sadly console systems have a tendency of being manufactured as cheap as possible in order to be able to compete on the market.