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for starters he makes the SNES sound like it dominated the Genesis (not so) and then makes some of the dumbest statements and comparisons I've ever heard. He actually thinks subtracting the eject button (passive piece of plastic anyone?) somehow substantially lowers costs. What an idiot, why do these people keep making videos? I'M ONLY ONE MAN! I CAN ONLY CORRECT SO MANY IGNORANT FANBOYS! GAH!
Just ignore them, flaming is just eating the bait.
its not baiting, its just plain unmotivated stupidity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
flaming is for noobs. We're already on an internet full of people screaming and ranting for stupid reasons. Please don't make it any worse!
Wow. Best dragonboy post ever.
Truer words were never spoken. Just let the idiot flame himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
I didn't watch it. With billions of people on the planet, it doesn't seem much use to concern yourself with these minor things.
Are you sure we're watching the same video? You made a he's so retarded topic about this video?Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
You make it seem like his focus is to say how the SNES "dominated" Genesis. He said that for anyone who might have grown up in the 90's, that it "might" have been "their" preferred console of choice. And then goes on to state that when released, it had better graphics and sound. Both are facts. How is that retarded? I think your "IGNORANT FANBOY"-ism is showing.
And how can you not comprehend that removing physical parts saves money? I've seen some retarded posts and video from ignorant fanboys, this isn't one of them. I think you have some sort of insecurities you need to get resolved.
He didn't say taking out the ejection button saved money. He said taking out unused features like the RF output, eject button, power LED and (showed the unused ext port on the bottom) saved money. Yeah I'm sure it was cheaper to build a smaller version of the SNES without that stuff on it so in a way he was correct. He also said it had better graphics and sound than the competing system (Sega Genesis) at the time. Also for the most part. Correct.
You are a Sega fan, he is clearly a Nintendo fan. But I don't think that makes him an R-Tard.
I didn't see so much of a retardation either in this video.... and I think he only mentions the Genesis once.
Agree with the somewhat dumb comparisons though - but I'd also say that's not a bad piece of article for people who are out of the gaming world.
saying that a system has better graphics and sound is NEVER a fact. Even saying an XBOX 360 has better graphics and sound than a 2 color Gameboy is still an opinion. Now, you could say that the Genesis processor is twice as fast as the SNES processor, which is true, unlike his statement that "SnEs iS TeH BetTuRz" compared to the Genesis, which is total bullshit. He said, and I quote "it brought graphics and sound that were superior to its number one rival: The Sega Genesis." EXCUSE ME? First of all, like I said before, those are opinions, he didn't say "I found them to be better" he said, point blank that they were, and he calls himself a "video game historian," what a crock of shit. The only reason he doesn't mention the Genesis again in the video is because he already dismissed it as a steaming pile of dogshit next to the "almighty" SNES.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomaitheous
And now to explain to you how retarded the second part of your statement is. I am a Mechanical Engineering major (not a fucking mechanic, an engineer, you know, like the people that would design a car or a space shuttle), I have taken a course that almost exclusively dealt with manufacturing techniques and how to minimize cost for a product, and I can tell you, an eject lever is probably the LEAST money saving feature of the SNES 2. The system was cheaper primarily because IT WAS A SIMPLIFIED CHIPSET, WHICH HE NEVER MENTIONED. Yeah, making it A/V only reduced some cost, removing the parts that go with the expansion port (not just the port itself), as did a few other changes, but an eject lever does not deserve to be included like it saved them $20 a console. The original eject lever was stupid anyway, it wasn't necessary, yet to this day when people buy clone systems they go "OMG! is it OK to just pull it out?" YES! its a goddamn cart slot you idiots!
He also said the SNES 2 was for "newcomers" to be "affordable." How? The playstation was $50 more and games for that could be bought for probably $20 (were greatest hits around yet in 97?). SNES cartridges always cost at least $40 unless they were clearing out old stock. I can't remember how much player's choice carts were, but it definitely wasn't $20. So, once you buy 3 or 4 games, they're the same price, and if you buy more, the PSX is way cheaper and technically superior in EVERY way. Again, another Nintendo fanboy trying to justify every stupid decision Nintendo makes. The Genesis 3 was $20 by comparison and the games were (I believe) something like $10-$20 each. I'm not sure if that was when the Genesis 3 first came out, but I remember seeing an add in the Toys R Us paper with prices about like what I listed.
I'm not annoyed because he prefers Nintendo to Sega or that he was trying to justify the logic of the SNES 2 (which is worse than defending the 32X IMO, the SNES 2 was a complete waste when $50 more would get you a PSX and like 3 new games came out since 95), I'm mad that he calls himself a historian but doesn't know WTF he's talking about and is just breeding more ignorant Nintendo fanboys with incorrect information. Let me put it this way, until I got my PS2, I had nothing but Nintendo systems (spare for Game Gear), and me finally taking the initiative to look into the Genesis has been one of the best decisions I've ever made, but other people aren't going to do the same if they have their head stuck up Nintendo's ass, that's why these videos annoy me (that and he doesn't know shit about the very console he's talking about). I played Super Nintendo last night, I love the SNES, its probably in my top 5 systems (if you let the 32X and Sega CD count with the Genesis), but I'm tired of people treating the Genesis like the bastard stepchild of the 16-bit generation when in reality it was the poor man's Neo Geo (and thats far from being a bad thing).
The eject button is actually pretty damn convenient on the SNES. Its fairly hard to pull out the games evenly without it on the SNES. Its not so hard on the Genesis the games aren't as wide and don't seem to hold in as firmly. You can at least take games out without using both hands to hold down the system. I certainly use it every time I take out an SNES game.
You can say that the Genesis has a faster CPU is a fact but you can also say that the SNES has a higher on-screen color count, total color pallet and more hardware driven effects is a fact. Saying its graphics are better is generally a true statement no?
I agree however that the SNES2 certainly wasn't a good "value" as the PSX price did drop to $149.99 in the same year (thats when I bought one!) I think it was even before the SNES 2 came out actually so that's pretty bad! Then again it came with a game and you didn't need to buy a memory card. Still that's WAY too high a price. I would have imagined they sold for like $59.99 or something like that. I had no idea they cost so much! The N64 was even out for a year at that point!
You know you stuff, hell yeah man. I've been playing the NES since I was four, the SNES since I was nine and the Genesis since I was thirteen, and I have way more Genesis games compared to the SNES. I am by no means a Nintendo or Sega fanboy, it is what it is. I prefer the Genesis to the SNES, but my favorite system is still the NES. I have eighty-something games for the original Nintendo, so I am loyal to that one, but coming here has rekindled my love for the Genny. You couldn't be more right, people treat the Genesis like it doesn't even exist. Imagine my surprise when I saw this site. There is more activity here than I've ever seen for the NES or SNES combined; which is why I keep talking to you extremely interesting and informative people, I gotta tell you guys, I just love it here. You ROCK me, sexy Jesus.Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
I once made a thread stating how boring SNES fan-boy websites were. I'll be looking for that thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRollingStoner
EDIT: here's the thread http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4914
All this over the SNES 2? Yawn.
If a man has to own an ugly ass system with purple accents then it damn well should be the original.