360

I really, really don't like the 360.

The two different systems thing is atrocious. Get a premium and you have to pay $400 for a system and you're paying for extra crap. Get a core and if you actually want to save your games, a $40 memory card and you're only spending $60 less to get a lot less stuff. The part that really bothers me is the lack of a hard drive with the core system. I think Microsoft got it right the first time on that point. Now the hard drive is pretty much wasted in terms of games using it, but I bet a lot of the Xbox Live stuff requires it.

Speaking of Xbox Live, what's with the Live pack with headset costing like $70? That's ridiculous.

Back to the hard drive. Ugh. The single thing that pisses me off most. If you want one, you're pretty much forced to get one of Microsoft's overblown "premium" systems, because if you buy it separately it costs just as much for the core system and hard drive alone.

And wtf, $60 games? These ain't cartridges. Why is everything so goddamned expensive?

I cringe whenever I think of their "backwards-compatibility". Requires the premium system, works with less than 30% of games. They said it would be back-compatible with all of the "most popular" Xbox games but apparently million sellers such as DOA3, Project Gotham Racing, and Morrowind aren't considered "most popular" when compared to blockbusters like Cabela's Deer Hunt 2005 and Shamu's Deep Sea Adventures.

Just about everything regarding this system makes me think "what the fuck?".

Microsoft certainly made quite a few unique choices with the 360..

The fubar'd backwards compatibility and optional hard drive... oh well, the easiest way to voice disapproval is simply not to buy Microsoft's latest money-gobblin' disc cruncher, but there will undoubtedly be some stellar games down the road that will overshadow any technological shortcomings the 360 suffers from. Many of the launch titles are getting solid to excellent reviews.

I'm waiting until after Xmas to get one. By then, the shortages should be over and the whole BC thing should be be solved. Between Half Life 2 and Dragon Quest 8, I have more than enough to keep me busy this holiday season.

I'm not surprised that the Live kit costs that much. If I recall correctly, the original one cost the same and included the headset and MotoGP demo.

The HDD scenario irks me the most. I want a premium system, but splitting the units means less people with an HDD and less reason for developers to use it. The original Xbox came with one installed and no one used it except for custom soundtracks.

Yeah, I'm not planning on buying one.

Fuck, I want to sell my current Xbox... The only time it is used is when my cousins come over, maybe I'll tell them I want to sell it, and I'll sell them some of my games, around christmas time when they have money.

This thing is selling on nothing but hype. Say there aren't enough? People go nuts. It would be languishing on store shelves if not for the market manipulation tactics being employed. Lamest launch since the PS2.

The Eric Cartman Theory for a sound business model.

On the same note, I give odds someone could pick one of these things up easy for the Japanese launch -- far cheaper than buying on eBay. I don't know how few they'd have to send to sell out, and even then nobody would give a shit over there.

Of course, these are the same people that play dating simulators...but still.

I'm getting one because I don't want to invest in consoles that look like George Foreman grills or "REVOLUTIONARY" ones that use stupid gimmicks to boost sales and force to me to pay for twenty year old games that I can get for free (again).

So I guess getting a machine that -- so far, mind you -- performs like Xbox 1.25 graphically is preferable? If the PS3 is a monster graphically, who can care about its shell looking like a kitchen appliance? Well, obviously, you can -- but rhetorically the point stands.

As far as the Revolution, that insult is just as lame as the one aimed at the PS3. Nobody's making you buy those old games, and that's not the machine's main feature in any case. Of course, I fail to see how an entirely new input standard is just a "stupid gimmick" relative to what the video game industry is as a whole -- granted, it's new (which is the point), but on the surface I don't see how the Rev is any more of a gimmick machine than whatever console past or present you care to name.

I'd seriously like to know what the 360's strengths are as opposed to the weaknesses of two systems that are at best concepts for all of us at the moment. I'm just not seeing what the 360 has going for it other than "OMFG" newness.

I lie about EVERYTHING I say about the 360 to my friends. It's not very original and probably the only reason y people bought it it becuz of Halo 3, probably the only good game on the 360 is Call of duty 2, but im a sucker for killing Nazis in video games.

Overall I wont buy one, seeing that I ll probably put my family in debt.

I'll get a 360 eventually, XBL Arcade seems like it should take off really well. As long as it's not like the original xbox live experience (aka-me slaughtering 13 year olds with too much money only to have them spew random racist comments over the headset and leaving)

It'd kick major ass if sega and other developers put new IPs up on it, and a new oldschool 16bit rpg series to download for 10 bucks a shot would kick major ass (and probably destroy the concept on what defines the word "arcade")

But as of now the price is too high.

As for revolution...well the way i see nintendo is the same way i see sega...a bitter old married couple, never one without the other....but sega just had a stroke and now is in a coma on life support....where as nintendo is living by itself now, talking strangely, peeking out its window at the world going by, slowly going demented with age. :D
I'm too lazy to be swinging my remote control around in the air to get the thing to work right now...im obviously too lazy to replace the weak batterys, why would i want to swing one around while playing a game?

I say it'd be best for them, if they were absorbed by MS, either that, or they buy sega and push for a new system together....both are never gonna happen.

I put my xbox in storage, plus I'm looking at getting a $22k (around that) car in a few years, so you think I'm going to waste a grand on a 360?

Don't think so... I have too many fun and cheap classics to play. :)

Eh, new generations in video gaming just mean that the previous generation games pile up in bargain bins and that's really all I'm looking foreward to right now.

Same here. I was at Wal-Mart today, and 360 games are retailing for $70. Screw that.

Here they are $60, not $70.

Man, what's the big deal aboot this thing anyway!

Pretty much all of the games are incredibly mediocre (i dont care Perfect Dark is crushing boredom!),the design looks exactly the same as it did before, and extra crap to buy..i don't think so!

i can't stand these overrated next-gen consles (cough PSP cough), I mean another console is gonna come around and bowl over the competition and then everyone will move on to that console!

We have to pay a 5% duty fee on electronic purchases here in PR, hence the price hike.

As it is, I doubt I'll be buying many new 360 games when I have the system.