XBLA to receive Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles

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04-28-2009, 05:49 PM
Elusive

XBLA to receive Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles

...complete with Lock-On emulation.

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Dutch website SegaOnline has gotten its hands on some supposed leaked screenshots of Sonic & Knuckles for Xbox Live Arcade. Much like their previous leaks they've turned out to be quite real.

The screen shot simply shows the interface of the Sega Vintage Collection design, but clearly shows the ability to "Lock-On" with Sonic 1, 2 or 3 from within the game. This ability was completely omitted from the retail Ultimate Genesis Collection with a large outcry from fans who wanted the feature, to play Sonic 3 & Knuckles like it was meant to be.

Whether or not this screenshot is real like the others is currently unknown, but considering the track record of things getting leaked for Xbox Live Arcade it would not be surprising at all.

This is from the guys who leaked the OutRun Online Arcade screens, along with the new Sega Vintage Collection versions of Sonic 3, Comix Zone, Gunstar Heroes, Shinobi, and Altered Beast.

It's not quite the same as adding it into the Mega Drive Ultimate Compilation via DLC or a patch, but it's very very good news regardless!
04-28-2009, 05:56 PM
Devil N

Meh, nothing beats the real thing. Even if the real thing is the retarded slow PAL version.
04-28-2009, 06:44 PM
0x15e

I'll buy it if the price is right.
04-28-2009, 08:09 PM
Puffy2k316

Ha no wonder they didn't include the lock on shit in the Genesis collection they just put out.
04-28-2009, 08:25 PM
gamegenie

Sega is killing me with these Genesis re-releases on the 360. I already have these games on my Genesis.

I want to play Sega arcade games, like SEGASONIC

http://sonicfan.altervista.org/storia/segasonic.png
04-28-2009, 10:20 PM
Melf

SegaSonic without the trackball isn't worth it, and the game's too short to be worth more than a $5 purchase anyway.

I was going to report on this in a new installment of MEGA Bites last month, but I wanted to wait and see what was going to happen. I doubt I'll buy these, as I'm sick to death of Sega churning out these games over and over without end. I will buy Gunstar Heroes and Shinobi if/when they do come out though.
04-29-2009, 12:18 AM
gamegenie

^^

Trackball is hype. I only got a taste of of SegaSonic from MAME. Using the X360 analog stick to control Sonic is far better than using a keyboard.

500 MS points sound about right for this game. I'd pay it.
04-29-2009, 04:14 AM
17daysolderthannes

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Originally Posted by Melf

SegaSonic without the trackball isn't worth it, and the game's too short to be worth more than a $5 purchase anyway.

I was going to report on this in a new installment of MEGA Bites last month, but I wanted to wait and see what was going to happen. I doubt I'll buy these, as I'm sick to death of Sega churning out these games over and over without end. I will buy Gunstar Heroes and Shinobi if/when they do come out though.

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Originally Posted by gamegenie

^^

Trackball is hype. I only got a taste of of SegaSonic from MAME. Using the X360 analog stick to control Sonic is far better than using a keyboard.

500 MS points sound about right for this game. I'd pay it.

the trackball is certainly NOT hype, its the core mechanic of the game. Without the trackball, you're just holding a direction. The whole point is that you have to spin the trackball fast enough to keep Sonic out of danger. With a joystick, its like having an auto-fire button, its basically cheating.
04-29-2009, 11:14 AM
Da_Shocker

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Originally Posted by gamegenie

Sega is killing me with these Genesis re-releases on the 360. I already have these games on my Genesis.

I want to play Sega arcade games, like SEGASONIC

http://sonicfan.altervista.org/storia/segasonic.png

And Saturn and damn near every other new system. I mean would it be that had to remake these games with better graphics or so?
04-29-2009, 12:37 PM
gamegenie

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Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes

the trackball is certainly NOT hype, its the core mechanic of the game. Without the trackball, you're just holding a direction. The whole point is that you have to spin the trackball fast enough to keep Sonic out of danger. With a joystick, its like having an auto-fire button, its basically cheating.

Well my experience on MAME using a keyboard wasn't a walk in a park. You still die, that trackball is just niche control.
04-29-2009, 06:36 PM
Elusive

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Originally Posted by Da_Shocker

I mean would it be that had to remake these games with better graphics or so?

I think that coding up an emulator, while tricky in and of itself, is still much less work than stripping a game to pieces and putting it back together so it fits into an XBLA / PSN shell.
04-30-2009, 10:26 PM
Da_Shocker

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Originally Posted by Elusive

I think that coding up an emulator, while tricky in and of itself, is still much less work than stripping a game to pieces and putting it back together so it fits into an XBLA / PSN shell.

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/image..._2_hd_tech.jpg

Sonic 2 HD is what im really getting at.
05-01-2009, 02:46 AM
otaku

whats the point with the ultimate genny collection out for 30 bucks?
05-01-2009, 03:11 AM
Benjamin

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Originally Posted by otaku

whats the point with the ultimate genny collection out for 30 bucks?

The XBLA Sega ROMs support Live on-line play and sport their own achievements. No idea why Backbone couldn't have the UGC feature Live play for the two-player titles, but then the company can't be bothered to offer some better filters for the games as well. Sega really needs to search for a new company to outsource the rehashing and milking of its ROMs because Backbone's efforts have been subpar thus far.
05-01-2009, 03:37 AM
Puffy2k316

You can't play Sonic 3 and Knuckles on the Genesis collection either
05-01-2009, 03:45 AM
johnnyb

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Originally Posted by Da_Shocker

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/image..._2_hd_tech.jpg

Sonic 2 HD is what im really getting at.

So crisp and clear!:D
05-01-2009, 06:27 AM
Speedle

awesome! more achievment points for me! :D
05-02-2009, 05:32 PM
Elusive

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Originally Posted by Benjamin

No idea why Backbone couldn't have the UGC feature Live play for the two-player titles

Because the multiplayer system used by XBLA is very very different from that used by the Mega Drive!

Non-cheeky answer: with the Mega Drive compilation you get the exact same Mega Drive multiplayer experience: the person next to you holding the other controller. The only other options are either to reprogram the game, or wrap the netplay code inside the emulator, as in the XBLA version of Sonic 2.

Sonic 2 just wasn't built with netplay in mind, so anything to approximate it or get it working only ends up kludgy :(

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the rehashing and milking of its ROMs

lol

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Sonic 2 HD is what im really getting at.

You misunderstand me. The effort that would be needed to recreate Sonic 2, from scratch, in 'HD' far excels any return they'd get selling the thing; let's never ever forget, we are a niche audience - obsessive and notorious fandoms even more so! Capcom could soak up the SF2HD costs because it was basically guaranteeing SFIV sales, and the Bionic Commando remake is swinging its way (*ducks brick*) onto the scene soon.

I'm glad Sega have that much in their basket at the moment than digging Sonic 2's corpse out of the ground once again just to appease their fucking fanbase, to tell you the truth. More MadWorld! More unique RPGs! More Football Manager updates! Less ... getting off topic in threads! :)