I wish I'd had controller when I had Samuri Showdown. I have now and I played so till the rubber pads at the bottom fell off litterally. It's a good Street Fighter, Streets of Rage, just a good fighting stick all together.
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I wish I'd had controller when I had Samuri Showdown. I have now and I played so till the rubber pads at the bottom fell off litterally. It's a good Street Fighter, Streets of Rage, just a good fighting stick all together.
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Originally Posted by philiptwood
I never new that the Genesis even had a 6-button Arcade stick until I watched the review on Classic Game Room. From what it looks like its built really well. I definitely wouldn't mind picking one up. :cool:
It looks absolutely uber cool but sadly it has no microswitches, neither for the stick nor for the buttons. So, unlike what is said in the video this is defintily not "the perfect joystick" and it's nowhere near to even being comparable to a real arcade stick.
If you got the money, buy a PlayStation adapter from Tototek and use a real arcade stick with microswitches.
Otherwise, stick with the regular 6-button controller.
What are microswitches? I have one of these arcade sticks and I like it very much. I have problems with the rubber feet falling off though, I've got to find/make some new ones.
They allow precise control. Instead of making some screeching rumble noise it makes "click" when you move the stick [or push the buttons]. Like in the arcades.
Microswitches make the 'click' when you click a mouse button - you don't need to worry about hammering the buttons at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry coeurl
My cousin actually had it.
really, they're more about durability than anything. I wouldn't say arcade controls are any more "precise" than a well kept silicon membrane controller, but they last longer and aren't as susceptible to damage if you're one of those people that slam controllers around when they play fighting games. That said, in the hands of most people that somehow manage to get the controller full of jam in the first week, microswitches will be a better choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Christuserloeser
I saw them on ebay, no bids at low prices. I didn't bother as I prefer the 6-button arcade pads better.
No, it's not about durability. A joystick without microswitches isn't comparable to a real arcade joystick because it's not accurate enough. If you push right, your character goes down, if you push down, your character moves left. You don't have that with microswitches.Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
good point, a lot of controllers are like that too. Some with the worse connection imaginable. e.g. the Xbox 360 controller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Christuserloeser
I can't wait to get my Hori pad.
if the microswitch based things would not do the click sound.....
Pffft, I don't know what microswitch products you use, but I have more problems with that sort of thing with microswitch joysticks than a good silicon pad. With a microswitch joystick, you're pushing a metal rod up against a lever that activates the switch. With a silicon membrane, you're pushing down a little conductive piece that completes the circuit. Either one is susceptible to undesired directional inputs. I mess up more quarter circles with my Namco microswitch joystick than I do with my Genesis 6-button silicon stick. Most of that is due to the fact that microswitch joysticks spin freely whereas the silicon joysticks are fixed due to how they operate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Christuserloeser
Arcades use microswitches because they are a tried and true industrial standard and can last through merciless beatings of sugar (oops, I mean high fructose satan syrup, right Edge?) hyped kids and angst filled teens for years and years. On the other hand, silicon membranes can degrade very quickly when buttons are mashed too hard, haven't you seen the store display controllers and how they are always broken in pieces, even with that fixed cord tunnel they put them on? Silicon membranes are only used because they are cheaper to make and easier to assemble and they're good enough for the average home user. Either way you are just connecting a circuit, either one in good condition will do it equally well.
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With arcade sticks, you are hitting the lever at an angle, I see much more likelihood of an incorrect input with that than a silicon membrane when you're smacking that straight down.
I've got the three button version of that controller. Perhaps the most surprising thing about these controllers is how far you have to push the stick to engage the switch.
The six-button joystick is the only controller I use for the Genesis. It's really awesome and gives that arcade feel especially when playing the arcade conversions.
maybe you're overdue for a cleaning? mine doesn't displace any further than a real arcade stick, though I do have the 6-button as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chilly Willy
Aside of the additional buttons they're pretty much identical.
I have both the 3 button and 6 button version of this stick. Which version is better? I should write an article about these sticks.
So who here would orgasm over a control pad with microswitches? It's possible, nobody says microswitches have to be a certain size. Anyway some of the machinery at my job uses microswitches and they wear down A LOT (usually sticking in the ON position). I replaced them with variable rate phase control.
Neo Geo beat you to it. It would be neat to try, but I probably wouldn't pay much extra for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
I meant compared to over types of sticks. Even when it was new, it took more than a twitch to make it work.Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
Kind of. The buttons are still regular buttons, and I was thinking more along the lines of a real d-pad and not a weird slidey thingy. Even the Start and Select buttons need to be microswitches. True arcade lovers will NOT accept anything less, ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
BTW, the MODE button on a real Sega 6-button controller is microswitch, so that's a huge amount of awesome that will make much semen seep into some of your pants. And the Saturn L and R buttons are microswitch as well. Huge semen flow!
My 6-button plays pretty good with Street or Rage... The rubber pads at the bottom tends to fall off.Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
So, I ran into someone who had the Japanese Arcade Power Sticks for sale at a decent price. I already do own a pair of European ones since 1993 but I always was curious to see if the rumors about the Japanese originals were true... and guess what? - They are. The original Japanese Arcade Power Sticks are indeed fully microswitched.
No kidding?! The buttons are micro switched as well as the stick? Is there any way to distinguish the older models vs the newer models like a different model # or anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by Christuserloeser
The buttons aren't, but the stick is (probably shouldn't have called it "fully microswitched").
Regarding your question as to how to distinguish a microswitched model vs a non-microswitched model: No idea. - Do you own a Japanese model that isn't microswitched?
I've been using a 6 button stick for years. Just like everyone else the pads have fallen off the bottom.
As far as the stick and buttons go, no they don't use microswitches. It also doesn't matter, as the controller is very responsive.
Well, the original Japanese Arcade Power Sticks do use microswitches and it's like night and day in comparison to the European / American variants.
I have one of those 6 Button Arcade Sticks too, US version unfortunately. It still works great but not as good as a real Arcade CP. No clicky makes me wish there was... :(