The Snes was a great console imo back in the days.
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The Snes was a great console imo back in the days.
Yeah, but an extremely overatted one.
I always thought of the SNES as overrated, I do think Nintendo's finest hour is the Nintendo 64, I still play on it after all these years, the SNES is the one hidden in the loft...
I don't know how you can say the N64 is better than the SNES. You must have pretty particular tastes in video games. Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, 007, Paper Mario, anything else? Not really.
The SNES has:
1) Better RPGs- Earthbound, Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy II&III, Breath of Fire I&II, Illusion of Gaia
2)A version of Tetris Attack without Pokemon in it
3)Mario 1,2,3, Super Mario World, Yoshi's Island
4)No competition in fighting games- Streetfighter 2 turo vs. Killer Instinct 64 hmmm....
5)Super Metroid
6)Countless numbers of 2-D sequels
I have to say that te snes wasnt better then n64 Killer instinct gold ways above street figher 2 turbo.Mario party and kart,mario 64 finest hours multiplayer turok 2 Goldeneye Mario party F zero beetle racing san fransico rush,ready to rumble 3d graphics misshief makers and a space harier kindo shooter forgot the name,what more paper mario hmm Fifa 98 all great games besides RPG,s,i still love the DK country games and some others on snes its defnitly a very awesome system.GBA ways more overhyped then snes GBA is butt ugly.
The N64 has aged pretty horribly. At least with Saturn and PSX games you have the excuse that both were released during the difficult transition to 3D - there's no excuse for grainy, low-poly Cataract-O-Vision and awful, awful controllers. And a total of about three games. And an add-on that everyone pretends never existed so they can laugh at the Mega-CD some more.
It's aged worse than the SMS, for Pete's sake.
Remember that the N64 graphics engine was almost picked for the Saturn... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Elusive
I wouldn't say the N64 has "aged horribly". I'm no fan of it, but most, if not all complaints levied against it were just as valid while the system was on the market as they are now. Blurry graphics, shit controllers, lack of quality software -- I sure as hell noticed these things all the way back in 1996. I still can't believe anyone bought it at launch -- wow, two whole games available! Even Saturn's oft-malinged (and rightly so) "pre-launch launch" had 33% more games.
A crippling selection indeed, but Super Mario 64 was a far stronger launch title than anything the Saturn had to offer upon release.Quote:
Originally Posted by j_factor
Keyword in that sentence is "a". Singular.
As in, "hey wow, this system has a great game!" Yeah well, so did Jaguar.
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Ummm, Legend Of Zelda (OoT of course) was better...
Quality vs. quantity.
Saturn launch titles (please correct me if I'm forgetting any):
Clockwork Knight
Daytona USA
Ghen War
Panzer Dragoon
Virtua Fighter
N64 launch titles:
Pilotwings 64
Super Mario 64
Neither of these is a perfect launch line-up.
The Saturn was blessed with greater gaming variety at the expense of rushed product and lack of a breadwinning, must-own title. Given the sad state of the Virtua Fighter port, Panzer Dragoon would have made a far cooler pack-in; it comes closer than any of the other Saturn launch titles to being a system seller, in my opinion. With regard to the N64, two games is unquestionably a weak selection, but when one of those games is a revolutionary, expansive and insanely enjoyable 3D platformer with years of gaming heritage behind it, a two game launch line-up isn't as big of a deal anymore. ..as long as more games are on the way. It was the immediately slow trickle of software that was more of a stumbling block for the N64 than the launch itself, in my opinion.
Depends which 'launch' you're talking about. The release in May (which was not a launch, but everyone calls it that) didn't have Ghen War available. The official launch had 20 games. Twenty spleen-busting games according to an ad. Yeah, spleen-busting.Quote:
Saturn launch titles (please correct me if I'm forgetting any):
Clockwork Knight
Daytona USA
Ghen War
Panzer Dragoon
Virtua Fighter
I have been unable to 100% confirm the exact launch list, but I believe this to be mostly accurate:
Virtua Fighter
Daytona USA
Panzer Dragoon
Clockwork Knight
Ghen War
Myst
World Series Baseball
Black Fire
Bug!
Solar Eclipse
Virtua Racing
Virtua Cop
Mansion of Hidden Souls
Cyber Speedway
Wing Arms
Mystaria
Congo
Pebble Beach Golf
Worldwide Soccer
NHL All-Star Hockey
Virtua Fighter Remix (perhaps not yet available at retail, but free copies came at that point)
I just hopped in here, but this post made me want to reply... The reason i really dig the last generation of dedicated 2D gaming systems was that they don't age. You could play a Master System game and enjoy it just as much as if you had picked up a Genesis pad. It's easy to ooh and ah over what developers could do with the hardware at the time, in the case of Panorama Cotton, Silpheed, etc. and those things still awe me today. 2D, I don't believe can age, because nobody uses it anymore. The current developers aren't toying with resolution and creating giant 200X200 pixel sprites and scaling them down.. Know what I mean? But when you see the Playstation 2 as compared with the Playstation, and the Gamecube as compared with the N64... There is no comparison. Many N64 titles look more primitive than SNES and/or Genesis titles.Quote:
Originally Posted by j_factor
Know what I mean?
Yes, I know what you mean... but I disagree. Kind of.
2D did age. Compare Xevious to Radiant Silvergun and tell me there's no difference in age. Even 16-bit 2D games have aged, just look at the 2D stuff on Playstation and Saturn.
As for "Many N64 titles look more primitive than SNES and/or Genesis titles." That I can agree with. But that's also something I would've agreed with in 1997.
In conclusion, people who remark that N64 has "aged" badly, probably got suckered into owning/liking the system back then, but now realize it sucked. :P