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Originally Posted by Beastech
Well so far its a deal breaker since i can't install the software to flash roms to the cart.
I was able to try it (it came with Phantasy Star 1 sms preflashed)
but thats about it, i can't flash anything on there without the correct drivers.
very bad way of doing business, no correct drivers on the IC2005 site or the NEO site.
You tried contacting them? Why sell a flash cart with no driver to install? Surely they have some alternative because it looks like a solid product.
Here's a link to their forum.
http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php
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Originally Posted by philiptwood
Yeah i posted a message on the IC2005 support forum,
but they made it so you can only see your own posts, i can't even see other people's questions.
Privacy my ass, they just don't want you to read that other people also have problems with stuff they sell.
and there's no point in registering at the NEO forum,
Since I'm currently monitoring a post someone made there who has the same problem as me.
I'm sure it will work out, its just annoying.
so is this like 512mb like I would have on a cd or 512mb like a genesis game?
It's 512 Mbit, not 512 MByte.
so its 64 Megabyte's for those of you who didn't grow up with the bits.
Of course, that's just the module that comes with it. You can buy other larger modules from the same folks to plug into the thing.
Just wanted to share that i finally got mine working after Dr.neo posted a new program which had the drivers for the flashcart included.
just played a couple rounds of Mortal Kombat II Unlimited, pretty cool stuff.
sadly i gotta stop since the cart seems to dislike certain games and then the program gives a loud pc beep.
(right from the pc speaker so you can't just turn off the sound)
Which kinda sucks when you're trying it out in the middle of the frigging night.
Too early too tell, i'm also not happy that i read on their forums that beta testing for the cart started AFTER they had put the thing on sale.
you'd think Beta testing would begin before they sell it.
but hey I'm not Asian, maybe its normal business practice there. :?
I am one of the beta testers and I received my cartridge today. I already did a variety of tests and will post some detailed report during the next days. Atm, I can confirm that it works flawless with my HDG model 1 Genesis, Nomad and Multi-Mega (European CDX).
The hardware itself is really impressive. All of the (minor) flaws I ran into so far were caused by the software side of things and thus would be easily fixable.
I recommend to give Neoflash a few days/weeks to get the software side of things straightened out.
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Originally Posted by Christuserloeser
Yeah it seems pretty compatible with regular roms.
some problems i have had, which you might want to tell Mr.Neo about.
1 - everytime the program finishes flashing (or fails) it makes my computer give a beep,
and not just a normal beep, a LOUD pc speaker beep.
could you ask him to just use the windows sound? i'd much prefer a little BLOOP then the obnoxious pc speaker.
2 - Bare Knuckle III translated rom won't flash.
3 - Beyond Zero Tolerance (Beta) won't flash
4 - Super Mario 2 1998 (Unl) [!] won't flash
5 - That KOF98 pirate rom will flash but won't run.
6 - the flashing program installs itself at C:\NEO2 Ultra Menu\
could he make the next version stand alone without having to install? (so i can put it where i want)
or make it install itself in program files or something.
7 - I don't know if its possible, but i would enjoy it very much if the file names on the cart could be longer,
also instead of 1 rom name at a time perhaps show a list? with different colors for 32X/SMS/Gen roms?
also the kof98 rom problems might just be because of internal protection,
but Top Fighter 2000 and Tekken 3 and Virtua Fighter Vs Taken 2 run perfect.
Ecco II beta also runs perfect.
I'm still waiting for mine - I got a message saying my order was processed, but no cart yet. :(
How the megacd/segacd bios feature is working?
Kinda like the ProCDX (black screen and boot)
Or like Megacart (it replace the whole bios by a new one)
I'm curious to know which mechanism they copied.
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Originally Posted by Fonzie
You know.. they didn't mention how to get that working,
with the cart inside you get the game menu everytime, i tried holding a,b,c,start.
nothing.
does anyone know how to enable the Sega CD stuff?
its only $99 a piece if you bulk buy 10 or more...not bad IMO. Only downside is I don't know if there are 10 willing members in any one country to get a 10 cart bulk buy together, lol.
I will. Thank you for your feedback.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoVamp
- I had no problems whatsoever to run translations and trained ROMs so far. Will try RedComet's Bare Knuckle 3 translation asap.
I don't think the Neo Myth cart has a MCD/SCD BIOS feature at all (yet?).Quote:
Originally Posted by Fonzie
Does it matter if we're located in one country ? - I'd buy them and could send them out to the US & Canada for $125, Europe for €80.Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
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Originally Posted by Christuserloeser
I quote from the product web page.
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D. SEGA CD
CD BIOS (PLAY ANY REGION GAME CD )
CD BACK RAM
This seems really cool, are there any bulk buys going on right now? I might have to get in on one.
$150 is about $110 more than I'd pay. Then again, this company appears to overcharge for everything the sell, including their outdated, inferior GBA and DS items.
Well, I'd be lying if I were to say that I'd not prefer if it would cost $30, but at the same time I feel that this thing is worth the money they are asking for.
Just played some Bare Knuckle III (translated version) on my NEO cart,
I guess that proves what i've been thinking all along, its not the roms that fail to flash,
But it seems to be the flash process itself, hopefully that can be fixed with better drivers/programs.
Its kinda annoying though, since you'd create this entire list of games and then halfway during the flash it would say BEEP "READBACK FAILED"
and you have to unplug the cart and try again.
I have been thinking of buying one of their carts that allow flashing while the unit is on though,
that would be pretty sweet, i could just sit on my bed with my laptop and upload roms.
$149.99, ha I'll pass on that too.
Maybe if I had caught wind of this before amassing a 112 game Genesis and 32X collection and if Genesis games weren't the most inexpensive unwanted bastards of the retro gaming market, but as it is, even the most expensive of Genesis games would be cheaper than this flashcart. The only way you can really justify this cartridge is if you have a Nomad that you really do use all the time, you really need/want a Sega CD RAM cart (and I do...), you want to desperately play prototypes on real hardware, or you're doing the ultra-expensive collector math and have determined that this cart is cheaper than a copy of MUSHA, Alien Soldier, Mega Man Wily Wars, and Pulseman put together.
I'm glad someone finally got one that works just off of USB, but its still too much to be worth it when I have all of this with graphics filters, save states, customizable controls (and a wide array of controllers to choose from thanks to a PS2 adapter), etc. with 99% accuracy on my XBOX, PC, and Mac.
If they were all in the US, for example, you could do it for about $105 a piece.Quote:
Originally Posted by Christuserloeser
To add to the reasons why anyone would want to buy this (aside of having more than 100 Genesis games on a single cartridge): I'd say Master System support is the best feature on this cartridge - especially with its built-in FM2413 support. This makes the games sound almost like Mega Drive / Genesis games, and it beats owning a Power Base Converter or regular US/EU Master System.
I saw it worked with one of the (GBA?) carts that supports SD? What cart is that?
I think it's the Neo2-TF: http://www.ic2005.com/shop/product.p...2&cat=0&page=1
or Neo2-SD: http://www.ic2005.com/shop/product.p...8&cat=0&page=1
I got a free sample, so I might be a bit biased :P
I posted this on neoflash forums but figured more people would read it here:
Here's a poor quality photo I took. I don't have an RGB cable, so you get to see blurry composite. I can run the menu in an emulator but then the picture would be even less interesting.
http://gtamp.com/md/neomdmyth201.jpg
They spelt Genesis wrong but a simple hex edit of the menu can fix that. 22 characters for filenames is a bit limiting but at least it's not 8.3. A list of files would be better than only showing one at a time. If the new filename is shorter than the previous filename, it still shows part of the old filename. You can't add a new file without reburning all the old ones.
I only have the 512mbit cart. I've heard that even if you have the Neo2 with SD, it currently can't copy or load from the SD slot and it only loads what's already in the Neo2's RAM.
Pretty much agree with you about everything,
this thing needs the following :
1 - Better menu with longer names and a list that we can scroll down instead of the 1 game each time thing we have now,
also it would be nice to have pages for roms, so we could press left or right and choose between Genesis/SMS/32x roms.
(or even the ability to create pages ourselves, we could have beta pages and japan roms etc)
2 - Am i the only one who has this burning problem? last night for example i put together a dir with every SMS game (euro/usa) and wanted to burn it to cart,
but at 75% i got another one of those damn errors. (they seem to happen randomly)
Now if this problem could be fixed this thing would be fucking awesome complete!
3 - the ability to just ADD roms instead of having to reflash the entire thing everytime,
especially with the burn failures it would be nice if you could just add games.
I never ran into one single error during burning hundreds of ROMS.
Thats odd, i keep getting them every couple roms or so,Quote:
Originally Posted by Christuserloeser
here i just tried to burn some roms and here's the errors i get.
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3987/image4noq.png
Also every time i reboot my computer the drivers are gone and i have to reinstall,
maybe thats part of the problem.
I don't dare flash a lot of roms together anymore because there's just too much chance
that one of them fails to flash and I'll have to retry and retry.
I think I'll just register at the NEO forums and share my problems there,
maybe i'm not the only one?
Here's what I did: Installed the initial XP version of the Neo 2 Ultra Menu software package. Copied the updated DPInst.xml to C:\NEO2 Ultra Menu\DRIVER\XPorLater\. Clicked on DPInst.exe to install the driver.
In C:\NEO2 Ultra Menu\ I clicked on register.bat to register the DLLs.
That's it. Never had a problem since.
But yeah, maybe it's best to register at NEO's forums to see if others have the same problems. Things don't seem self-explanatory and the software side of things still appears a bit lacking (I guess it's because we're still in beta phase)
I've had a couple of readback errors during burn but not as many as NeoVamp seems to be having. The Windows app has a few options for formatting (fast, standard, low level), maybe there are some bad blocks on your cart that aren't being marked. I'm using a USB cable that I already had connected to my PC. It's longer than the cable that shipped with the cart but shouldn't really make a difference.
Same here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sektor
I just got mine in the mail! First impressions: they don't take much care with the packaging for shipping - the plastic display case is wrapped with a single piece of cardboard, then placed in an unpadded shipping envelope. While the cart was undamaged, I don't consider this "decent" for shipping. It's even worse than cheap sellers on eBay. For the price, I'd expect a box and good packing material - either popcorn or bubble wrap.
There was no CD included, despite one shown in the picture. I guess that's because the software is still in beta and only available online. If you bought this from a third-party and weren't aware of their online software, you might be stuck.
The USB cable might be short, but it's better than no cable at all. :)
The cart itself is just slightly larger than a normal cart; it's almost identical in size to the Sonic & Knuckles lock-on cart. They bear a strong resemblance. It seems to be rather well made - it's not flimsy or "lite" - it feels solid. You won't be scared you're going to break this.
I'll make another post after I've had a chance to try it out.
As to their pricing of this device, this company sells their DS flash cards for $50. You can get the far superior Acekard 2.1 for about $10 online at various stores. But, as with the Retro USB PowerPak, no competition means they can charge whatever they want.
I'm actually surprised we haven't seen a flood of flash carts for older systems. You'd think all the companies making clone systems would want to tap into the market for games since they're making and selling systems with no current market support.
its probably because its such a specialized device and there is such a limited market. When you spend alot of time on retro forums you tend to think there is a huge market for this stuff, but the reality is retro games are super cheap and emulation is free so there just aren't many people that want that tenth of a percent better accuracy by playing them on real hardware through a flashcart. People either want the simplicity and authenticity of playing the real game on the real hardware or the convenience and price (free) of emulating it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diosoth
The clone systems are aimed at non-technical nostalgic people with enough disposable income to spend 20-40 bucks on a "cool toy."Quote:
Originally Posted by Diosoth
Flash carts for that same crowd would require a reasonable to use shell with a graphical front end, or decent firmware to handle them on a file system able to work with the hardware.
"Effort."
Then there's the ability to get roms, it's closeness with readily available emulation software which would no doubt kill physical product interest.
You're putting too much faith in the idea that these clone systems are anything more than a small-time setup, inked between a few different fab shops in asia. (and still one of their OEMs happened to get an 'official license' whored out to them...ugh)
Hey, like 17days mentioned in another thread: Yobo's recent FC3 Plus clone is far superior to the officially licensed AtGames crap or even Sega's model 2 or model 3 variants (aside of the missing RGB).Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
It wouldn't be harder to make than the GBA flash carts. I own an EZ-Flash IV. it's not of the "drag and drop" level of ease as DS cards, but it' snot hard to use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
I doubt the companies would care about 100% compatibility anyway. Not even the GBA carts have that, what with no real time clock(Pokemon) or light sensor(Boktai).
Besides, if emulation was really a factor, these clones wouldn't sell as well as they do.