Genesis and SNES, which had better version of a game?

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Originally Posted by gamevet

I didn't feel like downloading an emulator. Do you not have a video of that demo?

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You can watch the demo run off of real hardware at 10:07 in this video. You can also watch it in lower quality on youtube-

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The scaling continents during the Final Fantasy Airship levels look very much like that. You even have clouds (in FFVI) floating above the scaled ground below.

Not the best example, but at the 4 minute mark you can see one of the mode 7 overhead views for Final Fantasy VI (Japan), or Final Fantasy III (NA).

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It's because the effects look somewhat similar that Square used the "Axelay" effect for the airship scenes in the Wonderswan Color port of FFIV. The Wonderswan Color doesn't have any kind of scaling or rotation hardware.

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But the music sounds much more like the arcade music (almost perfect)

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Did you actually directly compare the arcade music to the Genesis port? The Genesis version is actually way off, even if you're disregarding the actual music (as most people seem to do) and are only counting the type of sound(s) used. Even if the Genesis had had the exact same sound as the arcade, the composition isn't the same. The title screen music is a big example.

You can view a pretty thorough rundown of the differences in this comparison (way too many to list, even just for Blanka's stage :p).

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Originally Posted by gamevet

The music and sound effects are why I prefer the SNES version. Either way, both systems win, because they got a solid port of a great arcade game.

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Exactly. I understand how people have a favorite version, but they're all great and are especially impressive as home ports for the time.

The Genesis port's samples may not be high quality on a technical level, but they're still real actual straight clips like the PCE version, unlike the butchered reworked SNES voice/sound effects.

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Apart from the interpretations of the coin-op's music and voices unique to each console, all the 16-Bit SF2 ports shared the same graphics, animation count and resolution (though not color count, and to a lesser extent detail and backgrounds, the latter especially in the SSF2 ports)

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Although they are all running in similar resolutions (the SNES version is a pixel shorter), the Genesis version has something like 8 pixels of extra viewing area along the top. It's noticeable and gives it roughly the same proportionate viewing space as the arcade.

Oh wow, that SF2 comparison site.......and I thought I was being nit-picky about the differences between ports! :D

Maybe i'm in the minority but why play these decent 16-Bit conversions when the Saturn has the absolute best port?



And it's not super expensive either.

Well theres no denying that. :)

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Originally Posted by Dirt Ball Gamer

Smash TV stinks on both the genesis and the snes. Both are disappointing.

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Agreed, but it's still true that the Genesis version is worse. Not that it's saying much. The Amiga version was the only good port at the time.

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Originally Posted by PimpUigi

I was unaware of Lost Vikings having more levels in the Genesis version.

I shall look into that...
SNES has the animations that the Genesis is missing. (and typically...has the better music, sounds, and colors)

Genesis is better though if it has more levels...how many more?

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Five. I also thought the Genesis version had better music, but I guess that's a matter of taste.

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Originally Posted by Da_Shocker

Maybe i'm in the minority but why play these decent 16-Bit conversions when the Saturn has the absolute best port?



And it's not super expensive either.

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Yeah, I have it! ;)

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Originally Posted by j_factor

Five. I also thought the Genesis version had better music, but I guess that's a matter of taste.

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I didn't think the SNES' music was that much better.
Five levels...wow. Genesis wins there.
Some scaling and rotation animations don't beat out actual levels. Maybe one short level...but not five.

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Originally Posted by Black_Tiger

Did you actually directly compare the arcade music to the Genesis port?

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Yes, I did directly compare the music...the composition is off, and it is slightly worse quality sounding.
The SNES' music composition if off by just as much, in every song I tested, but in addition to that, the music sounded nothing like the arcades at all, butchered IMHO. It seemed like every note was a different tune or key.

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Originally Posted by Da_Shocker

Maybe i'm in the minority but why play these decent 16-Bit conversions when the Saturn has the absolute best port?

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Because we appreciate the 16-bit consoles themselves. The games are unique versions (not slightly off reverse engineered ports) and most important of all, they have 16-bit console aesthetics. Why do you think that people are always posting dream ports for homebrew projects?

The Saturn port may be the best home port, but it's far from perfect.

360 port?
Mame32K Kaillera?

Well no port can be great if not on a console with suitable controller, which is a plus for the Saturn version. (if it was PSX for example, the Genny would still have that advantage, outside of arcade sticks -though the Genesis would probably still have a lead there)

So which game had better multiplayer?

Mega Bomberman
Super Bomberman 1 or 2

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I guess we'll just say Mega Bomberman then.

If anyone's interested, I'm having a battle of wits with a SNES fanboy on youtube. Go the the "classic game room buys a snes" video, if you want to check it out and help me shut this guy up. His name is Nintendomanwill and mine is therangersrule68.

So if Youtube had been around circa 1992, that is what things would be like?

The least you could do is dress in clothes from that totally radical era.

Wow, it's like no one played both Mega Bomberman, and Super Bomberman 1&2