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I thought it was really sad. The look on his face said it all. You could tell he was hurt. I don't personally know the guy but, I do hope everything works out for him.
the video was hillarious, the guy is a pussy
Who?
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It seemed like an out-cry to the family he lost. I don't laugh at it or mock it, though. But I hope he manages to distribute his priorities in the future. There's nothing wrong with gaming, and it doesn't have to become a vicious addiction to be understood as a hobby. You can have a collection and still retain your family. Maybe he'll get them back one day. I personally don't think it's going to be his "Final Video," For one: He did not delete his youtube account.
Who?
This coming from a socially inept loner, not really a surprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesdude
You beat me to it. I don't really understand how a guy losing his family is funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomaitheous
Who is this guy?
Dude you dont know me so shut the hell up.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomaitheous
Sorry to the people who liked him, but the guy is an absolute idiot. If this is even real, the dude lost his wife and kid over videogames. Idiot. If you let you wife leave you over gaming, you are a moron. Then, instead of focusing his attention on getting his wife back, he posts his whole business on youtube.....Wow.
I think he was referring to the youtube guy, not you.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesdude
He talked about losing "the two things that meant more to [him] than anything". Well, they apparently didn't mean more to him than making videos and buying shit to play with, until they split. Time for lukemorse1 to grow up, man up, and fix what's fucked up... assuming there's a way to do so.
Gaming's fun and all, but when you have a wife and a kid, they damn well better come before any hobby. If they don't, then you earn what you get when the ones who loved you split because you're too wrapped up in your own obsessive hobbies to notice you're putting them on the back burner.
Perhaps this makes me a cold-hearted prick, but I have no real sympathy for this guy. He brought it on himself by paying too much attention to what he had, and not enough to who he had.
I'm not entirely sure that's true . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by runback22
I'm not gonna say I don't feel sorry for the guy, it's a terrible situation he's in. In all respects, he probably could have avoided it, there are signs leading to situations like this.
I don't know the man, but it looks like he had it coming, pouring out so much into a hobby his wife more than likely didn't care for, it's simply ignorant of him to ignore the consequences of his actions. In any regard a decent human being would care more about his family than any hobby no matter what it is. Now that he sees what he's done, he can finally get his priorities straight, and maybe he'll even ditch everything he's worked for outside of his family. There's always the chance everything can be fixed, but it takes time.
And to you folks saying this is funny, I really don't understand the humor. I don't mean to turn this into a shitstorm, but to agree with Karakasa-Obake, I don't see how seeing a man lose everything important to him is funny. It's a cruel thing to say, and no matter who you are it puts you in a bad light.
:steps off soapbox:
tldr; Sad video, pity the guy, hope everything works out for him.
I agree with runback and The Coop. This could have easily been avoided, I mean really. If you are that dumb to NOT chase after your wife after she leaves you for a HOBBY, and you post it on Youtube INSTEAD of going after your wife, something is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by runback22
And tomaitheous, don't start drama. Everyone has their opinions, you're not one person to bash them or make rash generalizations about people over the internet. Very immature.
No, I was referring to jamesdude.Quote:
Originally Posted by runback22
And what little I have seen of your posts, I do know a little about you (you have a cockroach problem, currently not in a relationship and would rather be single and a gamer into your 80s, etc). And from the comment you posted from here, I learned that deep down inside you're bitter that you are alone and it makes you feel good about yourself when others how have what you "can't" obtain (in this cause a social skill set and a relationship) - fail. Don't worry, no charge for my psycho-analysis. It's on me ;)Quote:
Dude you dont know me so shut the hell up.
I can post whatever opinions I want. Clearly others have. Even if this bothers you. A lot of people are passing judgment based on an incredibility small amount of details and lots of speculation. I also doubt many/any here have gone through a marriage and a divorce. Have you? You have no idea what underlying problems existed in the marriage itself. Like I posted in the other thread, his hobby "problem" was most likely was result of a indirect action to attempt to cope with whatever problems he was having (whether he was the source or not). Every marriage is different and has it's own problems. I don't begin to understand his, but I don't pretend to know enough to pass judgment like others here. I specifically like the "no empathy" posts. Those are the ones that tend to find similarity between their own and the subjects problems, but disowning their by criticizing the subject. And I'm the one that's immature?Quote:
And tomaitheus, don't start drama. Everyone has their opinions, you're not one person to bash them or make generalizations about people over the internet. Very immature.
Crimeny! This isn't going to end well. I foresee a shitstorm.
Brace yourself!Quote:
Originally Posted by Falxix
Oh boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falxix
QuickSciFi, Karakasa-Obake, Falxix- Don't worry. There won't be a shit storm.
You criticize others for passing judgment on him and filling in blanks, yet you're judging others and filling in story blanks as well. Do two supposed wrongs make a right? I know three rights make a left, but...Quote:
Originally Posted by tomaitheous
Now, the guy flat out admitted he was too busy with with games and videos to notice how his wife and son were being affected by his daily hobby work. I'd be willing to wager that his being too focused on that hobby, and not being focused enough on the really important parts of his life, is one of the (if not THE) main cause of what took place. He was putting his hobby above what really needed his attention. And if there were other issues in their marriage, hiding his face in a game cabinet, or putting it in front of a camera, was not the way to deal those problems. So either way, he was too busy having fun/escaping, and he's still squarely in the blame bull's eye for what took place... even if the same amount of blame can also fall on her.
This isn't a video of a guy saying, "Yeah man, she just couldn't deal with what I like doing." This is a video of a guy clearly knowing he just fucked up... big time. This event snapped him out of whatever haze he was in, and now he has to try and figure out how to fix it... at the very least, on his end of things. If there are other issues at play, then he'll have to deal with them as well.
His hobby seems to have come before any potential problems. Even if this hobby of his was caused by other issues (be they from his wife, his kid, life in general, whatever), it all still boils down to the same thing. He could have at least tried to keep things from reaching this point. He could have put the camera down, let the strangers on the Web be, and dealt with what was building up in his marriage and/or life. But he didn't, and it's only now that he realizes what he should have been doing. He pushed things aside or escaped from them, and brought it on himself by not doing what you're supposed to do with problems... whether they're your personal ones, or those brought about by loved ones. Face them, discuss them, and if possible, fix them.
Keep in mind tomaitheous, none of my comments here are meant to be snarky towards you. You believe this event came about one way, others see it differently. We're all guessing here, based on personal experiences in our lives, or in the lives of those we know. Whether you agree with them or not, isn't cause for put downs and insults... and this goes for all of us.
Agree, disagree, whatever. But how about some civility before this expected shit storm actually does blow in, and ignore lists and ban hammers start getting used?
I feel sorry for the guy, but its not like he could not have seen it coming.
Most women tend to be very vocal when something is bugging them,
and apparently he chose to ignore this.
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I have a wife and kid and I know first hand how your gaming time suffers.....I miss the days of being single where I could come home from work and play games all night if I wanted to. I try to find gaming time as much as I can since thats the way I unwind after a hard days work. With a wife and kid, that time is so very hard to find......
It does frustrate me a lot that I cannot have more time to enjoy my hobby and, at time, I do have to make a conscious decision to put the controller down and spend time with the wife and kids. Thats part of being a husband and a father. You sometimes have to give up what you love doing to spend time with the ones you love.
As much as I love gaming, and as big of a part its played in my 35 years of life, I would never lose my family over it. Here I am, near midnight on a friday night, drinking some game fuel to stay awake because the wife and kids are in bed, and the next 3 hours are gaming bliss......See ya...
Yeah, adult life can and will pull time away from the hobbies you enjoy. That's part of what makes the time to do them so valuable when it crops up.
By the way, there's something I failed to mention in my previous tl;dr post. As much as it may seem to the contrary, I'm not a heartless bastard. I do hope this wake up call will get him to put things in the order they need to be in, and that he and his wife will work this out and get back together. I don't wish loneliness or heartbreak on anyone, nor do I like to see a kid grow up with their parents living in different places. But this could have been prevented had he paid more attention, which is why I feel the way I do in my first post on this.
Who the hell are we talking about?
And you don't see the correlation in the point I was trying to make? I think you might have totally missed my point then (it's more elegant if I don't have to simply explain it) :oQuote:
You criticize others for passing judgment on him and filling in blanks, yet you're judging others and filling in story blanks as well. Do two supposed wrongs make a right? I know three rights make a left, but...
Unless you're referring to jamesdude. He deserves whatever insult he gets for that comment. What an a-hole.
Curious, why so quick to blame him? Especially with very little information about the situation. People are quick to judge (and the internet makes it even easier to disassociate and judge), but you seem a little bit more passionate about it. You have some own underlying issue/experience in relation to this? Projected blame on him based on someone else in your past? (Not an insult or snarky response)Quote:
Now, the guy flat out admitted he was too busy with with games and videos to notice how his wife and son were being affected by his daily hobby work. I'd be willing to wager that his being too focused on that hobby, and not being focused enough on the really important parts of his life, is one of the (if not THE) main cause of what took place. He was putting his hobby above what really needed his attention. And if there were other issues in their marriage, hiding his face in a game cabinet, or putting it in front of a camera, was not the way to deal those problems. So either way, he was too busy having fun/escaping, and he's still squarely in the blame bull's eye for what took place... even if the same amount of blame can also fall on her.
1) you have no idea how small or larger the "blame" falls on her. 2) You have no idea what the underlying problem was in the marriage. None. Without that, your shooting in the dark. Making wild random guess. Sure, the man obviously feels guilty. The ending of marriage is powerful event in someone's life. It's very common for both partners to feel a sense of guilt and responsibility on some level. That aside, you don't know what the state of the marriage was. You don't if it was inevitably doom to failure. It takes more than love and people do change over time. What if it was an unfunctional marraige and the inevitable was just being put off... and by both partners. What if she finally realized this but he fully hasn't. He feels the blame because he could keep the marriage together in the end. There are sooo many variables that we don't know about. What we can assume is the man was avoiding some larger underlying problem. We know he blames himself, regardless if it's true or not. My feeling is that if he still blames his "addiction" to his hobby as the problem, then he still doesn't understand/come to terms with what the real problem is/was. Hope he learns it eventually.
How do you know that she didn't become increasing distant over the course of their relationship? It's not uncommon for other partner to turn to other activities, with both being in denial. If anything, it's pretty common. A lot of times people don't even full understand their own deeper problems. I could on-and-on-and-on with "what if" scenarios and speculation.
Read my above response. Just because the man feels guilty/responsible for the failure of his marriage, doesn't necessarily make is so.Quote:
This isn't a video of a guy saying, "Yeah man, she just couldn't deal with what I like doing." This is a video of a guy clearly knowing he just fucked up... big time. This event snapped him out of whatever haze he was in, and now he has to try and figure out how to fix it... at the very least, on his end of things. If there are other issues at play, then he'll have to deal with them as well.
That's pretty easy to write from where you sitting. Hindsight is 20/20. Viewing the man's videos, he doesn't come off as an idiot. People run away from there problems all the time. His denial, whether conscious or subconscious, is no different than any other human being on this planet. Including yourself. It's so easy to point to someone else and say, "dumb ass, you should have seen that/this coming". Yet, I'm positive you've done it in your own life - many times. And most likely do in the future as well. Denial is a defense mechanism. You, pointing and saying the obvious (in relation to his situation) - just makes you look like an ass.Quote:
His hobby seems to have come before any potential problems. Even if this hobby of his was caused by other issues (be they from his wife, his kid, life in general, whatever), it all still boils down to the same thing. He could have at least tried to keep things from reaching this point. He could have put the camera down, let the strangers on the Web be, and dealt with what was building up in his marriage and/or life.
Read above response. Let me see you try to "fix" some personal problem while in denial. Oh wait, you can't. There has to be some outside force to break the denial. His wife leaving was one obvious such force.Quote:
But he didn't, and it's only now that he realizes what he should have been doing. He pushed things aside or escaped from them, and brought it on himself by not doing what you're supposed to do with problems... whether they're your personal ones, or those brought about by loved ones. Face them, discuss them, and if possible, fix them.
The only person I purposely insulted is jamesdude, in which I was disgusted and insulted by his post.Quote:
Keep in mind tomaitheous, none of my comments here are meant to be snarky towards you. You believe this event came about one way, others see it differently. We're all guessing here, based on personal experiences in our lives, or in the lives of those we know. Whether you agree with them or not, isn't cause for put downs and insults... and this goes for all of us.
As for how I "believe" the event came about, I didn't. I never gave my opinion on what happened because there's not enough information to make such a belief or opinion. I'm was merely pointing out the preponderance of other people and their being so quick to pass judgment. I don't need to know the exact details, nor do I even need to out right judge him, to feel empathy for what he's about to go through. Regardless if the fault is 25%/50%/75% or squarely all on him, the pain he's going through and will go through is the same regardless. His life is changed forever.
:daze: Just because there's a difference of opinions or a debate or debunking of logic or pointing out of ignorance, doesn't mean it's going to become a shitstorm. Well, I would hope.Quote:
before this expected shit storm actually does blow in, and ignore lists and ban hammers start getting used?
I'll put it simply: 1) Nobody's really in a position to pass judgment on this fellow, given practically we know next to nothing about his situation (even if he gave more details, you still don't have the fully story). And some people seem to be making practically definitive judgments no less. Doing so only results in an ignorant conclusion. 2) (And most importantly) Have some empathy for christ' sake. The man is human and just as fallible as any and all of us. I mean, the man just lost his family. I would think understanding that would be more important than judging him.
I dont think anyone in here is being a heartless bastard. Its hard to have empathy for someone who is this stupid. Seriously, the man did not lose him family to death or some other means out of his control. He lost his family because of videogames. That is beyond pathetic and not worthy of empathy. The only people who we should have empathy for is his wife and kid. Stupidity deserves no empathy.
This isn't always true. There are some passive women who will just stew on things like this for literally years, and then just blow. Again, I don't know this guy's situation, but given that he had this serious issue and given that his wife married him and had a kid with him, but then left him because of this issue, it is possible she was one of those types.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoVamp
Or this guy is just a clueless idiot:)
Yeah, man, don't squander that precious gaming time on some dumbass bulletin board! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by runback22
In all likelihood, there were probably signs. But if someone is that deeply into something, unless she was a vocal woman, anything more subtle would be likely overlooked. Even if that's the case, one does need to realize when one's life is out of balance...Quote:
Originally Posted by The Coop
Projected blame? Not quite. I've been around people who get so wrapped up in their own escapes and pleasures, that they lose sight of what's happening to those around them, and themselves. What this guy's displaying is something very similar to what I've seen in others... like they just got slapped hard across the face, only then realizing what's been going on as it all comes back to them. This isn't projection, it's simply recognizing that which I've seen before.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomaitheous
He obviously loves his wife and kid, but I can't help but feel that bit of truth got lost a bit somewhere along the way while he was having fun with his hobby.
Of course we could. It could be that he simply has yet to grow up, and learn to put family before fun hobbies. It could be that she got tired of being hooked up with him, and wanted someone new in her life. It could be that her brain snapped and she's running across the country howling at the moon. It could be a thousand different things. But I'm looking at the nearly 800 videos he's made over less than a two year period, and it leaves me with the feeling that his hobby became too big a part of his daily routine, and she grew tired of it. Whether there were other issues, who knows. But my feeling is that this was at least the final straw as it were.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomaitheous
Not in the least. Denial is something that merely postpones looking at that which you don't want to face. It's an excuse. I learned that as a kid, and it's a lesson I've never forgotten. Another lesson I learned, is that problems don't solve themselves, they have to be solved if it's at all possible. You can't do that by going off somewhere (mentally or physically). That's not hindsight, that's just sight. It's being able to take a good, hard, critical look around you. Seeing what's going on with those you know and love, as well as yourself, and being able to recognize the changes (good and bad) that have taken place over time.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomaitheous
Perhaps it's because of the upbringing I had. Perhaps it's because as an artist, I have to be able to remove myself from what I'm working on so I can see what's working and what isn't, and not take critiques personally. I don't know. I just know that if I can see I'm not putting my energy where it needs to be, and correct it without any outside interference or intervention, then it can't be that hard to do.
Doesn't have to be an outside force. It can be an inner one as well, as stated in my previous response section.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomaitheous
How am I judging him? Where have I called him a bad person, a societal screw up, or someone not worthy of a wife and kid? I said he brought it on himself by getting too wrapped up in his gaming hobby (which he obviously was IMHO). I've said the same thing to myself back in high school when I realized I was letting video games take up too much time. That's not a judgment on anyone as a person, a put down, or an insult, it just means you believe they messed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomaitheous
I'm only saying how things look to me, based on his video, his history of video making, and past experiences of/with friends, family and myself. If I'm wrong, I'll step up and say I was wrong, and own up to it. I'll feel stupid, and we'll all have a good, deserved laugh pointing at me. But right now, I don't feel I'm very far off.
As I stated before, I hope he gets his life back together, and everything turns out alright for him. We'll likely never know the whole story, but with luck, it'll have a happy ending for him and his family. But to me, it looks like he let his hobby get in the way of other more important things, and I'm finding it difficult to feel sorry for him due to that. If that makes me an ass, then so be it.
Honestly, how many 'whos' do you need to respond accordingly?
Source of this Stupid thread:
He owns a fuckload of game systems, and is one of the many Youtube dorks who makes videos about them.
Boo-fucking-Hoo.
I feel that there is a lot in his final video that isn't being said, and while I am not excusing him for using video games as his medium of escape while not paying enough attention to his wife, there are some things to consider.
I am a long time subscriber of LukeMorse1, and thus I have watched many of his videos. Although I do not know a whole lot about what is going on in his personal life, here are things that I have pieced together.
Luke is an American living in Japan, while he does know enough Japanese to get by, it's apparent that he probably doesn't know enough to have a interesting and or deep conversation with very many people where he lives. Put all that together, the fact that he's a westerner living in Japan and xenophobia (no matter how little or great) he probably doesn't have that much of a social life aside from home. It's understandable that when people have to hold a job and have a family that one might not have time for much of a social life, most people I know do have friends at work that they at least get to talk to every once in a while.
Luke's only means of any socializing at all, aside from his family, was probably his youtube channel, which I believe was the source of most of his time spent and the motivation of his spending habits. I have to confess that watching him go into Japanese thrift stores, order at McDonalds, drive, film Japanese festivals in front of his house, and play games was all very interesting to me, and to a lot of other people on youtube. After being plugged a ton of subscribers by the HappyConsoleGamer, Luke probably felt the need to give his subscribers videos. It got ridiculous, to the point where he was submitting a video once every single day, as well as responding to PMs and video comments.
In a video that he filmed in a thrift shop he said that his son was in the hospital and that he was shopping to try and make himself feel better, it is unknown how long he had been in the hospital prior to this video, or how many times he went shopping, but it is more than a possibility that Luke had oniomania, a compulsive buying problem. He has talked about having a credit card debt previously in a video (I'm pretty certain that he's paid it off a while back though).
In the final video he said that he lost his wife and his son, since his son was in the hospital, it is possible (I'm not saying that this is fact) that his son died, and that this event was the final straw in him and his wife's relationship.
While his video game hobby is an obvious contributor to this happening, I'm fairly certain that it is also culture shock and social problems. By no means is this an excuse, but a piece of the story that otherwise might not have been found.
I've just shown this thread to Ironhide...
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I hope things turn out well for him.
I've never really heard of the guy but I watched his video and it's obvious that there's a lot more going on in that marriage besides just video games.
Don't worry though, you guys are still free to comment like you know him personally.
Yeah, I'm going to agree with this. After a good night's sleep, I have to admit I got too involved in this discussion. I don't retract anything I said, but I do apologize to the readers here for getting into the subjects more than I intended or wanted to (Irony? Perhaps...) and going tl;dr with my responses.Quote:
Originally Posted by mick_aka
tomaitheous- If you want to continue discussing any of the subjects we were going back and forth with, feel free to PM me. I don't want to further bog this thread down anymore than I already have.
So again, my apologies folks.
I love how the miserable nerdballs in this forum have to come in and start fights and derail the thread.
You Know who you are....
Anyway. This guy seems to be a nice person. I followed his videos and enjoyed them. I also followed the Happy Console Gamers videos as well. They both seemed to be friends and IMO both good people. I think we should all feel some empathy for this person. Lets not speculate on what he may or may not have done and just take his message as it is. Put yourself in his position and send him a nice message encouraging him to continue on.
I wish him luck. I hope everything works out in the end.
Well dont look at me, i didnt start shit in this thread, all i did was state my opinion and then some ignorant asshole got on my case for it. Im not the only one he's done it to in this forum.
Even though I don't agree with your statement your are entitle to it. You did nothing wrong my friend. Its the others who drag everyone else down. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesdude
HEY!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheEdge
I'm not miserable :p
Thats a good one...thanks for the laugh:DQuote:
Originally Posted by mick_aka