879 is an improved variant of the 878, adding stereo sound capture support and something else I forgot. What matters is the analog parts around the chip, if those suck, you get poor image.
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879 is an improved variant of the 878, adding stereo sound capture support and something else I forgot. What matters is the analog parts around the chip, if those suck, you get poor image.
Ahhh, thank you for clearing that up. Do you know of a good list of the 878/879 cards?Quote:
Originally Posted by TmEE
I know of no list.... my card is a LifeView Flyvideo 98
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Originally Posted by TmEE
Where did you find a YM2413?! I've been looking EVERYWHERE for something that has one. Did you pull one off a Yamaha PSS-170/270 or PSR-6?
YM2413 came from Eviltim / Viletim, see SMSpower!
here's a poor photo of SMS video from my MD2 over s-video :
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I ordered a BT878 capture card and then found this video right after:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrQcmC7nByc
He mentions in the description that the Easycap works with real hardware (more or less), and Easycap has been cited to work well with Flash Media Encoder. There's some reports of BT878 cards working fine as well, though, but at least I have another option to try if this BT878 card doesn't work out.
Is the USB VHS not an option?? I prefer things I understand easier, I guess. Record to tape, dump to computer via USB.
http://www.amazon.com/ION-Audio-Vide.../dp/B0017PJ5FI
I wish the quality seemed better. I don't have one of these yet, but really want one. It's a luxury item for me right now, only reason I don't have it yet.
If you capture with a vertical resolution of 480i @ 29.97, you *are* capturing at 240p @ 59.94fps. You just need to use a proggy/filter/whatever to separate the fields back into frames, to view it properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by mugenmidget
Ace: The TG16/SuperGrafx has 263 and 262 vertical resolution modes (the whole frame, not just the viewable area). This might be what the problem is. The capture card is loosing sync because the game is using something slight off sync, that normally doesn't effect standard SDTVs (it's possible that the horizontal scan rate is slight under/over the 15735hz - causing causing slightly higher/lower number than 59.94 which would also put it out of sync of the capture card has tight tolerances). I have an old ATI pci card with a Conexant fusion 878a chipset. I haven't tried it with all my systems, but IIRC it works with my Genesis (I know it works with my SGX and TG/Duo just fine).
Sorry to bump this thread yet again, but thanks for that information tomaitheous! I did end up playing around with DScaler and ffdshow to filter the fields like you said and got a 60 fps image (with my other consoles, at least, still haven't got one that works for the Genesis). Pretty nice stuff all around, but I can't find any good way to capture and stream that 60 fps output still. :(
The stuff I've seen of the DVC 100 on Justin.tv looks pretty good, but it's still 30 fps. Are there any "HD" capture cards that would play nice with something like the Genesis and capture the 60 frames per second rate without filtering? Seems like something they could easily handle, but I have no idea if such a beast exists and trying to look it up doesn't get me very far.
One method that might work but is a bit too much for my PC involves VirtualDub and VH Screen Capture. VirtualDub has filters that can be applied to a "Preview" image (as opposed to a hardware overlay) which seem to be able to restore the 60 fps image. This could then be recaptured through something like VH Screen Capture, which could be used as the "webcam" device for a program like Adobe FME to pass to Justin.TV.
There's an archived video on someone else's channel that shows something like this being pulled off with Super Street Fighter 4 (although this is "false" motion interpolation and not really 60 fps from the console itself): http://www.justin.tv/boulotaur2024/b/267843104
Any ideas on how to stream at 60 fps from genuine hardware would be appreciated. Thanks everyone for the help so far!
For the best quality recordings from real hardware (and I do appeciate that this method may be a slight problem for you folks in the US):
1: Get an RGB scart lead for your console.
2: Get an analogue DVD recorder that can record from RGB SCART input (very cheap nowadays my Samsung one was £10 second-hand).
3: Record as much as you like to a quality DVD-RW disc using the recorder's highest quality setting.
4: Rip the DVD to your PC/Mac as a useable video file.
5: Edit as you see fit and upload somewhere.
If you're in the US you may be able to use this method using s-video? are DVD recorders as cheap ass there as they are here now?
The DVD recorder method produces such good results I even rip VHS and Hi-8 footage using the same method now.
That is a very good suggestion and I might still have to look into it, but I'm basically looking for a good way to capture 60 fps from the consoles and stream it online at the same time. Right now I can do that with my capture cards but only at a maximum of 30 fps, so I was wondering if there were any capture cards that would allow me to do 60 fps without post-processing.
Component output will do progressive 60p out (other PC connections too, but component out has specific resolutions that are compatible with HD sets where as not all PC output resolution over other connections, are compatible with all sets). I've read about people using Dscaler on the capture card input to output 60p in realtime, and then run that output through component (or anything else progressive) to the TV set. That'll give you 60p to your set for sure (unless your HD output is limited to 1080i).
Interesting, but I'm a bit confused, sorry if I come across as a dolt in trying to understand this. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by tomaitheous
If I'm understanding your post right, this seems to be some sort of solution that passes back to the TV. Currently my problem is that I'm trying to capture 60 fps with just Composite or S-Video through cheaper devices. As you have said in previous posts, capturing at a 480i resolution will give me all the frames, and applying filters in post-processing can restore the 60 fps framerate.
That's perfect for just capturing the footage, but my issue is trying to stream from the card live to something like Justin.TV or Ustream through Flash Media Encoder. In this instance, I can only capture at 30 fps maximum, which just seems to be a limitation of the devices.
The only solution I've heard of involves using VirtualDub, applying the filters to restore 60 fps, and then capturing that with something like VH Screen Capture to pass to Flash Media Encoder. That would be a suitable solution, but my PC is too slow to handle all that overhead so the result is choppy.
So I guess my question would be is there any hardware that will just capture the 60 fps without any need for post-processing, and would it work as a device in FME? It's a very specific and limited use, granted, but I was just curious if there was such a thing.
And I'm sorry if you answered my question completely and I just misunderstood. :( I do appreciate all the information and hopefully will comprehend it if you beat it into my head some more. :rofl:
It's a piece of cake here. There are extra parts needed but it's still simple. All you need in addition to a scart cable (which is easy to get off eBay for both the Model 1 and Model 2 types) is a scart to component converter switch box. Additionally, you can get a 3-way scart switcher which is common to hook up 3 consoles at the same time. Here are pics of me demonstration a "test" setup I had a while ago. I'm not using the 3-way switcher yet because I still need to get a scart to scart cable and of course, scart cables for my Saturn and SMS. ;) Perhaps the Super NES if I can get my hands on one in the first place.Quote:
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http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/Image267.jpg
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/Image268.jpg
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/Image266.jpg
Clarity:
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/Image251.jpg
Sorry about the crappy image quality (cell phone camera). It looks much better in real life.
Yep, clear like mine, with no vertical stripes.. ;)
