Do we really need another casual gaming console? Is the future of console gaming at risk?
This technology DOESN'T exist. Not at the level they're trying to depict (not only in this video, but in their entire campaign).
*Scan*
...Yeah right!
I would understand a commercial like this being released in the early 90s. But, seriously, do they think we're still such a gullible society? We may be mainstream, but we're not idiots.
This is yet again another way to downplay the concept of video gaming so that your average grandmother can play along.
Top 3 things Microsoft needs to learn about Video Gaming:
#3. My grandmother handled a 6-button controller well enough back in the days of the Sega Genesis. Stop trying to make video games for the elderly. There are no age limits when it comes to video games anymore.
#2. I, the REAL video gamer (age not a factor), need a fast-action, quick-response controller (and REAL video games to go with it). I don't care if it's wireless or not. Just let me control the darn game, not have a stubby, lagging motion, godzilla-slow, imaginary remote (and by imaginary, I mean and repeat that this techonology does not exist as depicted in their campaign).
#1. This "new wave" has the tang of a project staying in Beta phase forever (or worse, being released in Beta phase like the 360 was in the first place). Please, when will you understand that all you need to do is make a good working Xbox 360?
09-14-2009, 05:49 AM
Phantar
What are you getting at? That Natal is being advertised as family entertainment? Yeah, that has never been done before...
I for one like at least the idea of "total immersion". However, Natal isn't the first time something like this has been tried, is it? I mean, there was Sony's "Eye Toy", and Sega's "Aura Activator".
They can advertise all they want, it won't change anything as long as a) the technology works properly and b) there's decent games available for it. Now, should they be able to pull off a proper fighting game or sports game with that method - that'd be awesome! But if all there is will be "go for a walk with your puppy"-simulators, well, no thanks.
Oh by the way? Gamers aren't mainstream! Sure, gaming has come into the mainstream... by such methods and games as they are depicted in this ad! "Bewjeweled" is mainstream gaming. "inFamous" or "Uncharted" isn't.
09-14-2009, 05:52 AM
Nunzio
Ping-pong ball jumper required for accurate motion recognition not included. I don't think the future of gaming is at risk because the present of gaming is already ruined. Arcades aren't coming back and virtual gardening is as real as virtual baking.
Screw next gen video games I just want to see the chick at 2:14 playing something requiring motions that could easily be misinterpreted >:D
09-14-2009, 05:53 AM
Rusty Venture
Alright, but I'm still saying *YES* to the "Surface".
That thing is so "21st century" that for *3 seconds* I forgot we don't have robots, hoverboards, flying cars, and personal rocketships.
09-14-2009, 06:13 AM
QuickSciFi
^Lol. reminds me of my last trip to Epcot center. About that history ride that takes you into the future. I haven't seen the new additions/changes, though.
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Originally Posted by Phantar
What are you getting at? That Natal is being advertised as family entertainment? Yeah, that has never been done before...
I for one like at least the idea of "total immersion". However, Natal isn't the first time something like this has been tried, is it? I mean, there was Sony's "Eye Toy", and Sega's "Aura Activator".
They can advertise all they want, it won't change anything as long as a) the technology works properly and b) there's decent games available for it. Now, should they be able to pull off a proper fighting game or sports game with that method - that'd be awesome! But if all there is will be "go for a walk with your puppy"-simulators, well, no thanks.
Oh by the way? Gamers aren't mainstream! Sure, gaming has come into the mainstream... by such methods and games as they are depicted in this ad! "Bewjeweled" is mainstream gaming. "inFamous" or "Uncharted" isn't.
None of this is news to any of us, of course.
I'm cool with fighting and sports games, though. It may be the unsatiated hunger left-over by the infamous activator, but I still would like to see something like that happen (just not as the future of video gaming). And by future, I mean one where more than half the games are considered "casual." ... Yup, "Puppy simulators" is what I'm most worried about.
I meant society in general. I sure know I'm not, as it is my mission in life to stay clear of the ordinary... But yes, you get the point. It's this fad of casual gaming which begs the biggest blame (not to forget that most video games out there ARE mainstream, just like any other media form). Stay unique, I know I will. ;)
09-14-2009, 11:02 AM
Zebbe
I say no to the Natal and to the RRoD console. Retro or death!
09-14-2009, 12:49 PM
Devil N
Meh, it's an optional feature, so I can choose to just ignore it. Which I intend to.
09-14-2009, 01:07 PM
TheEdge
I completely agree, QuickScifi,
We don't need another Wii. Yes, the Wii has a certain kind of charm to it that we got a small taste of during the Dreamcast era but I really don't think Project Natal or whatever they are going to call it is going to remotely feasible in todays economy nor do older gamers really care for interactive games to begin with. How many times have we heard on this board and others how Wii's all over the world sit idle collecting dust.
Thank god for Sega coming to Nintendo's rescue. If Sega didn't publish / develop for Wii then we would have seen a little bit of backlash from the older Wii community.
Bottom line is that these interactive things should stay in the arcade. We don't need to be jumping around like idiots infront of our television NOR do we want to be chained to a badly designed controller that makes you feel stupid while hurting your wrist at the same time.
09-14-2009, 01:16 PM
17daysolderthannes
XBOX Natal potential slogans:
-Making sure you look like a fucking retard when you play a video game since 2009
-A great new way to inadvertently break the furniture!
-totally fucking up in menus causing you to pay $200 for the complete series of Dora the Explorer when you just wanted to play the game in the disc drive, what fun!
-Pantomime is back!
-If you thought the Wii was unresponsive and gimmicky, you ain't seen nothing yet!
-Better hope the dog doesn't wander in front of the receiver or prepare to waste all of your ammo!
-If you thought fighting for the controller was bad, just wait until the whole family fights for media control by furiously signing like a deaf person on fire!
-Experience red ring of death like you're actually there!
-We haven't made a product that works like it's supposed to since our inception, so just imagine how awesome this will turn out!
-Remember Vista? yeah.
-Microsoft: desperately searching for markets that don't give a shit while abandoning those that do
-Microsoft: putting the tard in retarded.
EDIT: notice at the bottom of the video it says "product vision: actual features and functionality may vary," meaning in other words that some retard industrial designer or something came up with the idea and, as usual, some engineer is going to have to go "are you fucking stupid!?" and the whole thing will get watered down to a slightly better Eye Toy.
09-14-2009, 01:23 PM
TheEdge
Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
XBOX Natal potential slogans:
-Making sure you look like a fucking retard when you play a video game since 2009
-A great new way to inadvertently break the furniture!
-If you thought the Wii was unresponsive and gimmicky, you ain't seen nothing yet!
-Better hope the dog doesn't wander in front of the receiver or prepare to waste all of your ammo!
-Experience red ring of death like you're actually there!
-Microsoft: putting the tard in retarded.
^ I like these slogans the best. :rofl:
09-14-2009, 01:53 PM
Deo
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Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
-Better hope the dog doesn't wander in front of the receiver or prepare to waste all of your ammo!
I thought about something like that when they were playing the racing game in the ad, what happens if anyone else moves? Back when the eyetoy came out me and a friend were playing it at some electronics store and we kept messing up because people were walking around behind us.
09-14-2009, 02:49 PM
InternalPrimate
SAY NO TO CLOSE MINDED GAMERS!
Remember when gaming wasn't all about military/alien shooters? I sure do. I remember Sonic the Hedgehog, you know, one of the entire reasons this site exists, containing a one-button control scheme. You moved and you jumped. That was it. And it was fantastic.
I really don't get this whole backlash against motion controls/family gaming. Sad as it may be to say, but some of the most fun I've had with gaming in recent years was with Wii Sports and Boom Blox. Those are two games that rely entirely on "gimmicky unresponsive motion controls". At the same time, I adore the Call of Duty series.
Gaming DOESN'T NEED TO BE ENTIRELY CASUAL OR ENTIRELY HARDCORE. The two types of gamers can coexist. I'm willing to bet that both Sony and Microsoft aren't going to use motion controls exclusively, so you'll still be able to use your trusty old-school controller when you'd prefer it.
But, hey, fuel the imaginary motion vs. conventional war. If it's fun, why not just accept it? That's what video gaming is about, isn't it? Fun?
09-14-2009, 03:06 PM
17daysolderthannes
Quote:
Originally Posted by InternalPrimate
SAY NO TO CLOSE MINDED GAMERS!
Remember when gaming wasn't all about military/alien shooters? I sure do. I remember Sonic the Hedgehog, you know, one of the entire reasons this site exists, containing a one-button control scheme. You moved and you jumped. That was it. And it was fantastic.
I really don't get this whole backlash against motion controls/family gaming. Sad as it may be to say, but some of the most fun I've had with gaming in recent years was with Wii Sports and Boom Blox. Those are two games that rely entirely on "gimmicky unresponsive motion controls". At the same time, I adore the Call of Duty series.
Gaming DOESN'T NEED TO BE ENTIRELY CASUAL OR ENTIRELY HARDCORE. The two types of gamers can coexist. I'm willing to bet that both Sony and Microsoft aren't going to use motion controls exclusively, so you'll still be able to use your trusty old-school controller when you'd prefer it.
But, hey, fuel the imaginary motion vs. conventional war. If it's fun, why not just accept it? That's what video gaming is about, isn't it? Fun?
We're making fun of it because we know how retarded and completely impossible it is to make this work like they pretend it will. Wii Sports is incredibly shallow and the motion controls aren't what everyone thinks it is. Swinging that Wiimote is as accurate as mashing a digital button, it's not REALLY modeling the mechanics of a real racket swing in real time like people seem to think it is. I couldn't even play Mario Kart Wii because the fucking thing would suddenly invert my controls without warning. Fail.
09-14-2009, 03:07 PM
Elusive
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Originally Posted by InternalPrimate
I really don't get this whole backlash against motion controls/family gaming.
ffffF BUT WE'RE THE REAL GAMERS. DON'T. FUCK. WITH. US. *huffs, wheezes angrily*
[edit] ^^^ boo hoo hoo i can't control the game it SUCKS *throws temper tantrum, declares gaming dead*
09-14-2009, 03:12 PM
17daysolderthannes
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elusive
ffffF BUT WE'RE THE REAL GAMERS. DON'T. FUCK. WITH. US. *huffs, wheezes angrily*
[edit] ^^^ boo hoo hoo i can't control the game it SUCKS *throws temper tantrum, declares gaming dead*
hmmm, you know, just the fundamental part of any video game is that you can ACTUALLY CONTROL IT WITHOUT IT SUDDENLY GOING COMPLETELY NUTS AND INVERT THE CONTROLS CAUSING YOU TO LOSE THE GAME. The #1 rule of any game is that the difficulty should not be due to unresponsive and poorly made controls. Automatically, everything on the Wii fails. Ever play Red Steel? Kthnxbye
09-14-2009, 03:21 PM
InternalPrimate
Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
hmmm, you know, just the fundamental part of any video game is that you can ACTUALLY CONTROL IT WITHOUT IT SUDDENLY GOING COMPLETELY NUTS AND INVERT THE CONTROLS CAUSING YOU TO LOSE THE GAME. The #1 rule of any game is that the difficulty should not be due to unresponsive and poorly made controls. Automatically, everything on the Wii fails. Ever play Red Steel? Kthnxbye
But that's what I was trying to say, 17days. You hate the motion controls in Mario Kart Wii, so you can play it using the standard Wiimote + nunchuck setup. That's the way I play it. At the same time, I know plenty of people who prefer the motion controls.
The point is this: who are we to say what is and isn't fun? Fun is subjective. If someone prefers motion controls, then to them, motion controls are more fun. AGAIN, A CONSOLE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EITHER ENTIRELY MOTION BASED OR ENTIRELY CONVENTIONAL. You may not like the fact that young and old gamers are being catered to, but how can you not see the selfishness in that?
09-14-2009, 03:22 PM
Elusive
Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
hmmm, you know, just the fundamental part of any video game is that you can ACTUALLY CONTROL IT WITHOUT IT SUDDENLY GOING COMPLETELY NUTS AND INVERT THE CONTROLS CAUSING YOU TO LOSE THE GAME. The #1 rule of any game is that the difficulty should not be due to unresponsive and poorly made controls. Automatically, everything on the Wii fails. Ever play Red Steel? Kthnxbye
Do you want an apology out of me or something? I'm sorry you can't get your Wii to work.
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Originally Posted by QuickSciFi
I, the REAL video gamer (age not a factor), need a fast-action, quick-response controller (and REAL video games to go with it).
What's with the obnoxious attitude? Natal isn't replacing the 360 controller any more than the guitar controller did. I'd imagine that the games would be built around the limitations of the hardware, and not by the wet dreams of ANGRY REAL GAMERS from the Internet.
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Originally Posted by InternalPrimate
how can you not see the selfishness in that?
MY GAMES. MY GAMING. MY CULTURE. MINE, ALL MINE. BEWARE THE OUTSIDERS, FOR THEY SEEK TO BLASPHEME OUR SACRED IDOLS.
09-14-2009, 03:29 PM
17daysolderthannes
hey, guess what d-bags: when the video game companies see all of the retards buying stupid Wii garbage instead of GOOD games like Shadow of the Colossus (one of the few remotely recent games I can think of) it makes them shelve projects in favor of another mini-game compilation. For a comparison, if everyone goes to see shit-tastic Transformers 2 and no one watches Inglorious Basterds, guess who's getting the next big movie deal. It's not like hardcore and pussy video games are going to coexist perfectly, one is going to suffer due to the other's popularity. There's a good reason most of my games from PS2 onward are racing games or retro compilations.
09-14-2009, 03:32 PM
InternalPrimate
Why am I a d-bag? :) That actually made me laugh. I'm at work, laughs are hard to come by. I just responded to what I saw as an unfair argument against Natal, which I wasn't even really thrilled about when it was announced.
09-14-2009, 03:33 PM
TheEdge
Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
We're making fun of it because we know how retarded and completely impossible it is to make this work like they pretend it will. Wii Sports is incredibly shallow and the motion controls aren't what everyone thinks it is. Swinging that Wiimote is as accurate as mashing a digital button, it's not REALLY modeling the mechanics of a real racket swing in real time like people seem to think it is. I couldn't even play Mario Kart Wii because the fucking thing would suddenly invert my controls without warning. Fail.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
hmmm, you know, just the fundamental part of any video game is that you can ACTUALLY CONTROL IT WITHOUT IT SUDDENLY GOING COMPLETELY NUTS AND INVERT THE CONTROLS CAUSING YOU TO LOSE THE GAME. The #1 rule of any game is that the difficulty should not be due to unresponsive and poorly made controls. Automatically, everything on the Wii fails. Ever play Red Steel? Kthnxbye
Not only insightful but humorous as well.YOU SIR get a + 1 :ok:
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Originally Posted by Elusive
I'm a big hairy smelly troll*
Yes you are. :nod:
Quote:
Originally Posted by InternalPrimate
But that's what I was trying to say, 17days. You hate the motion controls in Mario Kart Wii, so you can play it using the standard Wiimote + nunchuck setup. That's the way I play it. At the same time, I know plenty of people who prefer the motion controls.
The point is this: who are we to say what is and isn't fun? Fun is subjective. If someone prefers motion controls, then to them, motion controls are more fun. AGAIN, A CONSOLE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EITHER ENTIRELY MOTION BASED OR ENTIRELY CONVENTIONAL. You may not like the fact that young and old gamers are being catered to, but how can you not see the selfishness in that?
IP, Come on, the Wii is as gimmicky and crappy as some kind of knock off toy you would purchase in China Town for 5 dollars. Yes, you get some enjoyment out of it for the first 10 minutes but then you throw it in the closet or put it on the shelf and never think of it again.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elusive
ACTIVATE TROLL-A-TRON! AND I'll FORM THE HEAD!.
Stop breathing. ok? Thanks. bye.
09-14-2009, 03:40 PM
InternalPrimate
Edge, you just said that the Wii is reminiscent of the Dreamcast, so let's not jump on the WiiHate bandwagon just because 17days is the driver.
And 17days, I'd argue that the PS2 is the absolute best evidence to prove that hardcore and casual can peacefully coexist. The console was packed to the rim with casual and family software, and it also had everything a hardcore fan could ask for. You keep kicking and screaming that "mini-game compilations" are going to be the death of hardcore gaming, yet you completely ignore sales figures. Hardcore games are still selling well into the millions, which means they're still going to be made.
And let up on Elusive, at the very least, the guy is right and sees the flaw in your arguments.
09-14-2009, 03:47 PM
TheEdge
Quote:
Originally Posted by InternalPrimate
Edge, you just said that the Wii is reminiscent of the Dreamcast, so let's not jump on the WiiHate bandwagon just because 17days is the driver.
I've always ragged on the Wii. Its a power glove on steroids. If it wasn't for Sega developing / publishing adult content games for it, then it would be like a toddlers fisher-price toy but with motion controls.
Quote:
Originally Posted by InternalPrimate
And let up on Elusive, at the very least, the guy is right and sees the flaw in your arguments.
Na, Elusive is the biggest troll on this forum. Bigger than Knucker Fester.
09-14-2009, 03:51 PM
Elusive
Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
It's not like hardcore and pussy video games are going to coexist perfectly, one is going to suffer due to the other's popularity.
It's not like when Mario Gets A Kidney sells five million, five million copies of Shenmue 3 self-destruct in shame. There's not a finite amount of videogames that can ever exist, after all.
09-14-2009, 03:52 PM
Puffy2k316
Quote:
Originally Posted by InternalPrimate
Edge, you just said that the Wii is reminiscent of the Dreamcast, so let's not jump on the WiiHate bandwagon just because 17days is the driver.
And 17days, I'd argue that the PS2 is the absolute best evidence to prove that hardcore and casual can peacefully coexist. The console was packed to the rim with casual and family software, and it also had everything a hardcore fan could ask for. You keep kicking and screaming that "mini-game compilations" are going to be the death of hardcore gaming, yet you completely ignore sales figures. Hardcore games are still selling well into the millions, which means they're still going to be made.
And let up on Elusive, at the very least, the guy is right and sees the flaw in your arguments.
Hardcore wii games have sold terribly almost across the board
09-14-2009, 03:56 PM
InternalPrimate
I would point to those "hardcore games" and say that they are VERY flawed. It seems like Mature Wii games get a pass from reviewers, when on any other system they would be panned. I'm speaking specifically about Madworld, House of the Dead Overkill (hey, these are the great Sega games Edge was talking about!), and The Conduit.
When speaking of hardcore games selling millions of copies, I was speaking of the quality ones released on any system.
09-14-2009, 03:57 PM
17daysolderthannes
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elusive
It's not like when Mario Gets A Kidney sells five million, five million copies of Shenmue 3 self-destruct in shame. There's not a finite amount of videogames that can ever exist, after all.
Actually, it kinda is. If people all rejected the Wii and clamored for a new Streets of Rage...we would see a new Streets of Rage. I guess it really boils down to the fact that too many people are fucking stupid (11 million WoW subscribers, yikes!). If there weren't stupid people, there would be no market for stupid games.
09-14-2009, 03:57 PM
TheEdge
Quote:
Originally Posted by InternalPrimate
I would point to those "hardcore games" and say that they are VERY flawed. It seems like Mature Wii games get a pass from reviewers, when on any other system they would be panned. I'm speaking specifically about Madworld, House of the Dead Overkill (hey, these are the great Sega games Edge was talking about!), and The Conduit.
I have to admit that these are solid titles for the Wii. Not just because I'm a sega fan boy but because they are very well made. And Conduit has like 10 kinds of control schemes to it. So we can't complain about that one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
It's not like hardcore and pussy video games are going to coexist perfectly, one is going to suffer due to the other's popularity. There's a good reason most of my games from PS2 onward are racing games or retro compilations.
That's funny that you say that because as I look at my PS2 collection I'm noticing that I have more retro-compilations on it then I have other games.
09-14-2009, 04:00 PM
InternalPrimate
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheEdge
We don't need another Wii. Yes, the Wii has a certain kind of charm to it that we got a small taste of during the Dreamcast era but I really don't think Project Natal or whatever they are going to call it is going to remotely feasible in todays economy nor do older gamers really care for interactive games to begin with. How many times have we heard on this board and others how Wii's all over the world sit idle collecting dust.
Thanks for doing the work for me Edge.
And to 17days, who once again is getting way too angry, I didn't once call anyone names or attack any other forum member. Am I a "d-bag" or "retard" for having a different opinion?
Honestly, you need to grow up. Who even uses those words anymore?
09-14-2009, 04:05 PM
Puffy2k316
Quote:
Originally Posted by InternalPrimate
I would point to those "hardcore games" and say that they are VERY flawed. It seems like Mature Wii games get a pass from reviewers, when on any other system they would be panned. I'm speaking specifically about Madworld, House of the Dead Overkill (hey, these are the great Sega games Edge was talking about!), and The Conduit.
When speaking of hardcore games selling millions of copies, I was speaking of the quality ones released on any system.
Flawed games (Assassians Creed) still sell boatloads on the other consoles
09-14-2009, 04:05 PM
TheEdge
IP, that wasn't a positive comment about it.
Quote:
We don't need another Wii. Yes, the Wii has a certain kind of charm to it that we got a small taste of during the Dreamcast era but I really don't think Project Natal or whatever they are going to call it is going to remotely feasible in todays economy nor do older gamers really care for interactive games to begin with. How many times have we heard on this board and others how Wii's all over the world sit idle collecting dust.
09-14-2009, 04:11 PM
Iron Lizard
I don't think this announcement will do anything to help 360 sales. It was a pretty funny video. I felt embarrassed for the actors.
09-14-2009, 04:11 PM
Elusive
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheEdge
Yes you are. :nod:
Stop breathing. ok? Thanks. bye.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheEdge
Na, Elusive is the biggest troll on this forum. Bigger than Knucker Fester.
TheEdge, ladies and gentlemen. When all else fails, call the other guy a troll, he can't possibly have different opinions or disagree with you or anything. He MUST be trolling!
Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
Actually, it kinda is. If people all rejected the Wii and clamored for a new Streets of Rage...we would see a new Streets of Rage. I guess it really boils down to the fact that too many people are fucking stupid (11 million WoW subscribers, yikes!). If there weren't stupid people, there would be no market for stupid games.
Why would they have to 'reject the Wii' before this lovely Streets of Rage game is produced?
What does 'reject the wii' even mean? Are you thinking 'eliminate a games machine with a very large audience share for them to sell games to'? Or do you just disagree with the entire idea behind the Wii and hope it goes away somehow?
09-14-2009, 04:13 PM
QuickSciFi
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elusive
...What's with the obnoxious attitude? Natal isn't replacing the 360 controller any more than the guitar controller did. I'd imagine that the games would be built around the limitations of the hardware, and not by the wet dreams of ANGRY REAL GAMERS from the Internet...
^[REAL] Video Gamers = Play = [REAL] Video games. What's obnoxious about that?
If I'm at a party, a Wii may bring in some fun (But then again, so will the music and the dancing provided by your standard stereo and dance floor). As I've agreed before, I'm not against Project Natal being just another peripheral (in fact, that's all it can possibly become for now). However, I'll keep my quick-responsive controllers over the lagging "wand" any day of the week. What I'm most worried about is that this fad may soon overcome the majority of the industry simply by sheer allocation of advertising power (and by power I also mean money). It started with Sega, and Nintendo made it "popular." But hey, if you want to stay mainstream (and by mainstream I now mean you as an individual, not society in general), then by all means. I'll stick with REAL video games...
...And no, plain and simple, waving your wand until you either get it right or snap a tendon isn't exactly the gaming experience I prefer. Sure, there may be the "nunchuck" option, but that's not always the case.
Perhaps they'll one day get it right, but as 17days agrees, motion sensing technology is far from perfect. Just watch that vid again and realize the lie they're trying to get accross and sell you. We're just not there yet. Here's another example: 'Ever try playing a genesis game on an iPod? Call it what you will, but it just isn't the same. Heck, I know there are games out there that play better with motion sensing technology; I wouldn't even touch an analog d-pad for those. However, I don't fool myself and call them real video games. Let's put it this way, you can port Monopoly onto a genesis cartridge, it's still just another Monopoly game.
...And please, quit this "war-against-the-first-post" behavior already. It's childish and brings no sensible matter to the table. What I posted was just MY opinion. Maybe some will agree with me, I hope. But if you don't want to "say NO to Project Natal," well...then simply say YES. No one here's at war. I love motion sensing technology and that's probably what gets to you people; the fact that I'm bashing its use as the very plausible, sole, controlling future of video gaming, yet prefer it as a peripheral during casual gaming, NOT during my REAL gaming experience.
On the other hand:> Thanks TheEdge, for once more bringing light into the imminent darkness that seldom, yet horribly, plagues this forum. ;) Goblins will be goblins; but we, the light-hearted, shall endure. http://www.natureartists.com/art/res...Long_Dark2.jpg
09-14-2009, 04:22 PM
TheEdge
Quote:
Originally Posted by QuickSciFi
I'm not against Project Natal being just another peripheral (in fact, that's all it can possibly become for now).
I agree. Peripheral yes, a whole console based on it, no.
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Originally Posted by Elusive
READY THE TROLL CANNONS, MR. CHRISTIAN!
FIRE!
Pew* Pew*
Most useless forum person I've ever seen.
09-14-2009, 04:29 PM
QuickSciFi
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheEdge
...Most useless forum person I've ever seen.
Sorry, my friend. I just proof-read it and had to quickly edit your post. There seemed to be a typographical error of some sort.
09-14-2009, 04:30 PM
TheEdge
Quote:
Originally Posted by QuickSciFi
Sorry, my friend. I just proof-read it and had to quickly edit your post. There seemed to be a typographical error of some sort.
lol, thanks buddy. :D
09-14-2009, 04:31 PM
QuickSciFi
^No problem. ;)
09-14-2009, 04:34 PM
InternalPrimate
Really QuickSciFi?
It amazes me how backwards things can sometimes seem. I have never, ever, ever had a problem with Elusive. It's funny if you step back and look at who the people on this forum are that don't like the guy. I don't think he's the problem.
09-14-2009, 04:40 PM
TheEdge
Quote:
Originally Posted by QuickSciFi
On the other hand:> Thanks TheEdge, for once more bringing light into the imminent darkness that seldom, yet horribly, plagues this forum. ;) Goblins will be goblins; but we, the light-hearted, shall endure.
It amazes me how backwards things can sometimes seem. I have never, ever, ever had a problem with Elusive. It's funny if you step back and look at who the people on this forum are that don't like the guy. I don't think he's the problem.
It's not what he said to them, it's what he said to me. ;) I just don't understand the need to "wage-war-against-the-first-post" behavior. It's purely antagonistic. You managed to state your "Yes" without subjectiveness or nasty remarks, or it may be that you're a friend, but I just can't idly sit by and silently enjoy a nasty comment on behalf of others. Maybe his next post will enlighten my views about him. I'm always open to new, good friendships. :D
